Win 11 install - user account


kevinboardley

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Hi

Just got new dell laptop. Need up and running fairly quickly but want to use a local account. The dell install routine (I am sure it downloaded and installed windows after I switched on and went through the dell process) only seemed to allow an install against a microsoft account. This I did. Then created a local account which is what I wish to use and a folder with the name of the local account has not appeared in the users folder. The only folder there is the one taken from the first letters of my microsoft account name.

I will at some point upgrade the SSD and then reinstall windows, hopefully skipping the microsoft account bit by unplugging from internet at the appropriate time. May be I could have done that in the dell install routine but forgot to do so.

But I still don't understand why when I then create a local account a folder with that name does not appear in the users folder.

Can anyone help me unpick this before I proceed?

Thanks in advance.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
The dell install routine (I am sure it downloaded and installed windows after I switched on and went through the dell process) only seemed to allow an install against a microsoft account.
Windows would have been pre-installed, not downloaded. It may have checked for update later though. At first Boot it would have booted to the Out of Box Experience (OOBE) which is where you get asked to create your first account....

This I did. Then created a local account which is what I wish to use and a folder with the name of the local account has not appeared in the users folder. The only folder there is the one taken from the first letters of my microsoft account name.
Have you signed out of your first account and signed into the new one you've just made? The user folders for a new account don't get created until the first sign in.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven below to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package. Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
Windows would have been pre-installed, not downloaded. It may have checked for update later though. At first Boot it would have booted to the Out of Box Experience (OOBE) which is where you get asked to create your first account....


Have you signed out of your first account and signed into the new one you've just made? The user folders for a new account don't get created until the first sign in.
Hi Bree thank you. Yes OOBE had forgotten the name for that.

Well I am currently showing as signed into my newly created local account so doesn't that suggest that I am logged out of my MS account or am I missing something there?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
Can anyone help me unpick this before I proceed?


You also have this option...




And here's ten points just for filling out your computer specs. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26200.8457 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
You also have this option...




And here's ten points just for filling out your computer specs. :-)
Hi Ghot The point is that I have done that. As noted in my first post. Dell OOBE > set up MS account (as this was only option) > created local account (different user name) > don't see a folder for the local account in the users folder anymore.

I have done a bit more digging and it appears that a folder with the local account username has been created as a subfolder in C:\users\[ms account name]/appdata/local/connecteddevicesplatform with the prefix L.[local account name]

Is this a windows thing or something to do with the Dell configuration? 🤔

UPDATE: this looks like a linking of my local account to the ms account which sort of defeats the purpose which was not to have them linked.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
Is this a windows thing or something to do with the Dell configuration?


It's probably a Win 11 thing. MS is determined to have everyone on an MS account.
I can't be very helpful with this, because I did an In-Place upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11.
My Win 10 was installed with a Local account, so it upgraded to Win 11 that way.

Technically, I've never "installed" Windows 11. ^^

I'll fight MS to my last dying breath... ack...ack!! o_O


Btw... Windows updates are gonna start in about 5 minutes.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26200.8457 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
So I wonder then, is it still possible to use Win 11 without this link to a MS account?

I discovered this new config when starting to move the location of the windows default folders to a partition other than the C drive (my data partition). And I wanted to to this on my newly created local account. So it was when I was checking which account I was logged in with that I saw that even though windows reports my local account as logged in when I look at the location of the special windows folders, there was no folder specifically for my local account to where I expected to move them. Obviously as it currently stands there is no distinction.

I have a full retail licence emanating from Win7 that was upgraded to Win10 and has been running for years, presumably on a digital licence key. I have used a cfg switch in the past to force an install from USB boot media to allow installation of that pro licence on my previous laptop that was supplied with Win 10 Home.

I wonder if that will still work? I definitely didn't uninstall the Home licence on my old laptop before doing the Pro install using my own full retail key. So it worked before.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (retail) 23H2 / 26100.4946
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom (Quiet PC)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz 8C/16T 65w AM4
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK TUF gaming B550M (WI-FI) AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC 2470WNX
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [operating system]
    Samsung 970 EVOPlus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (3500/3200) [Data]
    Samsung 870 EVOPlus 1TB SATA/600 [Data]
    Plus external Samsung 1TB for additional data copies and for Sonos stream
    PSU
    Pure Power 11 400w Quiet PSU PLUS Gold
    Case
    S400 Silencio mATX Quiet PC
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-P12 Redux 12v 900RPM 120mm x2
    Keyboard
    Dell corded usb
    Mouse
    Logitech corded optical
    Internet Speed
    35 Mbps / 9 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security with Malware Bytes
    Other Info
    FTTC 35 Mbps / 9 Mbps

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