Win11 weird alphabet repositioning (no human control)


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if i open a random folder & position icons aligned to grid per personal position
from left to right for example, leave that folder & reopen it,
magic win11 repositioned them all alphabetically, Whiiile .. . there's nothing selected
in "Sort by" if i right click that space.. Not Even by Name.
 

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anyone has an answer ? ((
 

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if it is truly changing the sort order when "None" is selected, resetting folder view options is probably your best bet. if that does not resolve it, the issue will be much deeper
 

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delicacy said:
anyone has an answer ? ((
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Yes, I do —> Be patient in threads you create.

www.elevenforum.com

Reset Folder View Settings to Default in Windows 11 File Explorer

This tutorial will show you how to reset folder view settings to default for your account in Windows 11. You can change the folder view settings in Windows 11 to what you want for each separate folder. Folder view settings include the File Explorer window size, template, columns, column width...
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sorry, this is driving me nuts, & when i right click, i see nothing that could force sorting/resorting by alphabet, what i don't want.
 

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no, didn't help dacrone.

i simply can't rearrange icons the way i want following grid.
 

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try @LesFerch tool:

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WinSetView (Tool to Globally Set Explorer Folder Views)

WinSetView is a tool that will let you easily set File Explorer default folder views (including turning off grouping everywhere if so desired). It works by setting registry values that File Explorer already supports. It does not modify Explorer or add any tasks or services. Please follow the...
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holy crap dacrone, i used it this morning, its probably what forced my windows to reorder by name non stop..
i used the global section & used Medium icons to set the whole computer folders to medium, cause that was
always an issue in some folders out of the blue. & now i see this:
Sort by: +name << this is probably what forced windows to do it.
 

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When i click on global / columns, i get this:

1746569817952.webp

Do you know how to keep all icons on medium while geting rid of this name auto reordering ?
 

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    ROG SupremeFX Formula 8-Channel High Definition Audio
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    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
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    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
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    Silverstone 1500
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    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
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    …still on a horse.


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    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
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    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
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    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
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    14" WUXGA
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    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8655 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

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    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

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i completely forgot it antspants, plus, the purpose of using it wasn't related to the actual issue
 

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delicacy said:
if i open a random folder & position icons aligned to grid per personal position
from left to right for example, leave that folder & reopen it,
magic win11 repositioned them all alphabetically, Whiiile .. . there's nothing selected
in "Sort by" if i right click that space.. Not Even by Name.
Click to expand...
Windows Vista was the last Windows version that directly supported arbitrarily arranging icons within a folder (as opposed to the desktop). The feature can also be enabled right up to Windows 11 (see Windows XP/Vista view mode in WinSetView), but the arrangement is only remembered if you are using Windows 7, Windows 8.x, or a Windows 10 build that is lower than 1703.

This is not a WinSetView issue. It's a limitation of Windows Explorer. You're not the only one that wants to see a return of this feature:

Please bring back the ability to freely arrange
 

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oh gosh LesFerch, do you know a github explorer patch that could do the job ?
 

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delicacy said:
oh gosh LesFerch, do you know a github explorer patch that could do the job ?
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Sorry, no such patch exists. I'm pretty sure only Microsoft can bring that feature back to Explorer.
 

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smh (( i can only congratulate microsoft for their unending major features downgrades over time in their so called "latest os" .. .
 

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here. you can still do it. has some coloring side effects (dark text on dark background), but you'll have to figure those out.. or maybe @LesFerch knows the quick remedy:

Open Regedit

Go to:
Code: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
Export "Bags" subkey, then Delete it

Go to:
Code: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
Export "Bags" subkey, then Delete it

Restart Explorer

Save this as a .reg file and run it:
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"FullRowSelect"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
"KnownFolderDerivedFolderType"="{57807898-8C4F-4462-BB63-71042380B109}"
"SniffedFolderType"="Generic"
"FolderType"="NotSpecified"

;Generic - Folder Template

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{5C4F28B5-F869-4E84-8E60-F11DB97C5CC7}]
"Rev"=dword:00000000
"FFlags"=dword:43000000
"Vid"="{0057D0E0-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000001
"LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
"IconSize"=dword:00000010
"GroupView"=dword:00000000
"GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
"GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
"GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001


;Documents - Folder Template

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{7d49d726-3c21-4f05-99aa-fdc2c9474656}]
"Rev"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{0057D0E0-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000001
"LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
"IconSize"=dword:00000010
"GroupView"=dword:00000000
"GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
"GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
"GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
"FFlags"=dword:43000000

;Music - Folder Template

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{94d6ddcc-4a68-4175-a374-bd584a510b78}]
"Rev"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{0057D0E0-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000001
"LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
"IconSize"=dword:00000010
"GroupView"=dword:00000000
"GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
"GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
"GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
"FFlags"=dword:43000000


;Pictures - Folder Template

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{b3690e58-e961-423b-b687-386ebfd83239}]
"Rev"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{0057D0E0-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000001
"LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
"IconSize"=dword:00000010
"GroupView"=dword:00000000
"GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
"GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
"GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
"FFlags"=dword:43000000

;Videos - Folder Template

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell\{5fa96407-7e77-483c-ac93-691d05850de8}]
"Rev"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{0057D0E0-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000001
"LogicalViewMode"=dword:00000001
"IconSize"=dword:00000010
"GroupView"=dword:00000000
"GroupByKey:FMTID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
"GroupByKey:PID"=dword:00000000
"GroupByDirection"=dword:00000001
"FFlags"=dword:43000000

Restart Explorer again

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Revert it:

Import both Bags .reg files you exported

Restart Explorer

Save this as .reg and run it:
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"FullRowSelect"=-

Restart Explorer again
 
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dacrone said:
here. you can still do it.
Click to expand...

That's built into WinSetView. Just check the box "Windows XP/Vista view mode". That will enable the old XP/Vista view mode which supports free arranging of items within folders in Details and Icon views.

BUT, as mentioned, those arrangements will not be remembered. You have to be running Windows 10 prior to build 1703 (or Windows 7 or 8) for the manual arrangements to be remembered.
 

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hopeless.
 

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