Solved Windows 10-like Start Menu in 11?


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im futzing around with an unactivated windows 11 instance in virtualbox, and.....yeah, not liking the start menu. But i am pretty much used to the start menu of Windows 10, so is there a way to bring a Win10 start menu like appearance back to windows 11 through some program, either shareware(paid)/free, or is there hopefully some registry trick i can use otherwise?
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
You can have just about any sort of start menu you desire with Stardock Start11.
Plus you get the option to keep the Windows 11 start menu if you wish. You can open either one at any time.

www.stardock.com

Stardock Start11: Restore the Classic Start Menu in Windows 10 and 11.

Start11: The ultimate Start menu replacement for Windows 10 and 11. Restore the classic look and add new functionality.
www.stardock.com
 

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+ 1 on Start11
 

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OpenShell.... allows you to use versions of the Windows Start Menu going back to Windows 95. Open source and free.
 

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Stigg said:
You can have just about any sort of start menu you desire with Stardock Start11.
Plus you get the option to keep the Windows 11 start menu if you wish. You can open either one at any time.

www.stardock.com

Stardock Start11: Restore the Classic Start Menu in Windows 10 and 11.

Start11: The ultimate Start menu replacement for Windows 10 and 11. Restore the classic look and add new functionality.
www.stardock.com
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ok, i just saw the slideshow screenshots presentation and i immediately saw the windows 10-like start menu. this might be the ONE software i will choose to buy if it works in the VM ok

Edit: i should've mentioned earlier, i DID try OpenShell at first, but the menu styles didn't really jive with me anymore, not even Windows 7 (which was my PREVIOUS OS before i took the free windows 10 upgrade option many years back), and i tried StartAllBack (Windows 11) in the VM after i uninstalled OpenShell, and while it DID move the start menu to the left, it gave me a few error prompts and i decided "nah, not for me"
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
or EP or Windhawk. plenty of options. windhawk you can actually make it win 10 style but keep the modern fluent ui appeal of win 11.
 

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Ok, i think i am in love with Start11, and i might just buy a license for it (on the big IF, i ever decide to switch to windows 11), since its Windows 10 Style looks EXACTLY like what i want. Just one small issue, its a bit too W I D E
Start11.webp

there's quite a bit of extra space to the right, and if i could figure out how to shrink that back a bit, i'd be happy. I mean, this right here is more than enough icon space for me
Win10 Menu.webp

any way for me to shrink the Start11 Menu space so its a bit more compact?
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
1760824779010.webp1760824808068.webp

like that?
 

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The XP two column start menu is easy to navigate. Nothing better has come along.
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
BrokenDaily said:
pretty much :/

is it just a setting in Start11 im not seeing somewhere that i need to tweak?
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No I don’t use Start11. Those are from Windhawk.
 

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well, i tried out windhawk, and the three style mods (taskbar, notifications, start menu), and i managed to get it looking close to windows 10 like your previous screenshots showed, but it still felt weird. But then i stumbled onto what might be the solution i needed after all after trying to find a way to remove the recommended list in start menu in a windowsclub article. A program called ExplorerPatcher

i installed it, ran it, and after changing some settings, the taskbar AND start menu now look EXACTLY like the windows 10 start menu. one tiny little gripe about the ExplorerPatcher method, is when i leave the start menu, it briefly lingers around as a grey-ish box for a few seconds before it closes, but i could deal with that. Though i'll keep the past suggestions in mind, i do think if i ever decide to go to windows 11, ill be relying on ExplorerPatcher to make the start menu look like windows 10 again

only bigger gripe ill have to deal with is having to see how many of my windows 10 tweaks i usually use will be overwritten by windows 11, making them invalid. But that'll be a different & separate topic to explorer later on
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
For me windows 11 start menu better, it looks more aesthetic and the animation.. 👌
 

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BrokenDaily said:
one tiny little gripe about the ExplorerPatcher method, is when i leave the start menu, it briefly lingers around as a grey-ish box for a few seconds before it closes,
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I just found out that I was having this same exact issue (on Windows 11 version 25H2 build 26200.6901). Simply re-installing ExplorerPatcher 26100.4946.69.5 fixed it for me.
 

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oddly enough, when i rebooted my VM yesterday, that start menu lag went away.......weird

now all that's left is for the "Pin to Start" functions with the ExplorerPatcher app to get fixed up, and then i can doll up my pinned items section again
 

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Despite my name, my stuff isn't broken daily, but its annoying when it does; my current setup is FAR more powerful than before, and i consider it to be my very last
After reading this thread I seem to recall that in the early days of Windows 11 it was possible to get Windows 10's Start Menu with something like a simple Registry edit.

The exact Windows 10 Start Menu with no extra software needed to do it. Which suggested to me that Windows 11 was really nothing more than Windows 10 with a few more 'bells and whistles' added and a bit of a 'facelift'. Plus a lot of things were moved around of course and, in a lot of cases made more difficult to use and harder to find (extra clicks required to do the same thing than what was needed in Windows 10 and earlier versions of Windows).

Oh, and the alleged 'extra security'.

Then, shortly after this means of enabling the Windows 10 Start Menu in 11 was discovered, MS promptly removed it. Funny about that.
 

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Windows 11 Professional 25H212th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
OS
Windows 11 Professional 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Home Built
CPU
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX DDR4
Memory
32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ GL2460 (24 inch - oldie but a goodie)
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 870 EVO x 2 (250GB and 500GB) plus several external Samsung SSD's.
PSU
Corsair HX 750
Case
DeepCool
Cooling
Stock CPU cooler. 5 case fans (2 front, 2 top and 1 rear)
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
500/40 Fibre
Browser
Mozilla Firefox and Microsoft Edge
Antivirus
Windows Security
CarlSD said:
After reading this thread I seem to recall that in the early days of Windows 11 it was possible to get Windows 10's Start Menu with something like a simple Registry edit.

The exact Windows 10 Start Menu with no extra software needed to do it.
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Yeah. New Windows 11 Build Removes Classic Start Menu Option
CarlSD said:
Which suggested to me that Windows 11 was really nothing more than Windows 10 with a few more 'bells and whistles' added and a bit of a 'facelift'. Plus a lot of things were moved around of course and, in a lot of cases made more difficult to use and harder to find (extra clicks required to do the same thing than what was needed in Windows 10 and earlier versions of Windows).

Oh, and the alleged 'extra security'.

Then, shortly after this means of enabling the Windows 10 Start Menu in 11 was discovered, MS promptly removed it. Funny about that.
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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    11 Homei7 13650HX16GB DDR5GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?

  • At a glance

    11 Homei5 1135G716GB DDR4Intel Iris Xe
    Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Just curious which of the programs mentioned in this thread use DLL hijacking? Which use just registry entries for 2H24 or 2H25.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
x509 said:
Just curious which of the programs mentioned in this thread use DLL hijacking?
Click to expand...
EP, SAB, WH do
Idk offhand about open shell
 

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Windows 11 Pro
OS
Windows 11 Pro
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