Windows 10 to 11 upgrade


ingeborgdot

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I have a system that is new, but won't upgrade to W11 because my NVME when cloned did not clone GPT but MBR. I will have to do the settings change to convert my OS to GPT from the MBR. I'm a little scared about doing this since I have SO many programs installed on my drive. I have done it to another PC and that went well and was pretty easy to do.
Many say it is best to just do a clean install of W11, but that would mean I would have to reinstall and setup all of my programs on my PC. That would actually mean at LEAST 24 hours of install and setup of these programs. I'm not exaggerating on this either. I have worked with PC's for many, many years, but have never had to do anything like this.
What would everyone recommend? Clone my W10 drive to a new drive, convert my W10 drive to GPT, and then upgrade to W11? I have searched Google for this, and found many answers, but want advice from experts on here of what they would do.
Thanks so much.
 

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What would everyone recommend?


Welcome to ElevenForum. :-)


I don't completely understand your situation? I can't tell if the original Windows 10 installation is on a GPT or MBR disk.
IF.... the original Win 10 installation is on a GPT disk...


...then you can just do an In-Place Upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

You haven't filled out your computer specs, so I don't know what "drives" you have.
If you have a storage drive as well as a Windows drive, then I would do this....


1. Make a full Windows 10 backup, and save it on the storage drive.
2. Then just do the In-Place upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11, on the Windows 10 drive (if it's a GPT disk)

I wouldn't Update or Upgrade Windows 10 to Windows 11, unless your Windows 10 install is running perfectly.


If Windows 10 isn't running perfectly... I would just do a clean install of Windows 11.



Like this...


Here is the short version of the In-place upgrade tutorial...

DISABLE non-Microsoft:
a) antivirus software
b) firewall software
c) drive encryption software


Make a full OS backup with a program like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper Standard
Making a backup is optional, but always a smart move.
Macrium Reflect
AOMEI Backupper Standard (free)
Hasleo Backup Suite (free)



Get the Windows 11 ISO (Option #2), and save it to your desktop...


Right click the ISO image and choose: MOUNT
Open File Explorer and you will see a new drive letter. It will "look" like a DVD optical drive.
Double click the new drive letter to open it.
Find setup.exe and double click it to start the in-place upgrade.

Choose the Keep personal files and apps option.

After it's all done... to UNmount the ISO image, right click the new drive letter and choose: EJECT.

The ONLY thing you will lose is some of your personalizations.
Your drivers, programs and data will be intact.


=====================================================================================
=====================================================================================



If your current Windows 10 drive is an MBR disk, then you can convert it to a GPT disk, without losing data.
Like this...




====================================================================================
====================================================================================


If you decide to do a clean install...

 
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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Here are some things you might find useful, when you're on Windows 11... :-)




 

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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Welcome to ElevenForum. :-)


I don't completely understand your situation? I can't tell if the original Windows 10 installation is on a GPT or MBR disk.
IF.... the original Win 10 installation is on a GPT disk...


...then you can just do an In-Place Upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

You haven't filled out your computer specs, so I don't know what "drives" you have.
If you have a storage drive as well as a Windows drive, then I would do this....


1. Make a full Windows 10 backup, and save it on the storage drive.
2. Then just do the In-Place upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11, on the Windows 10 drive (if it's a GPT disk)

I wouldn't Update or Upgrade Windows 10 to Windows 11, unless your Windows 10 install is running perfectly.


If Windows 10 isn't running perfectly... I would just do a clean install of Windows 11.



Like this...


Here is the short version of the In-place upgrade tutorial...

DISABLE non-Microsoft:
a) antivirus software
b) firewall software
c) drive encryption software


Make a full OS backup with a program like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper Standard
Making a backup is optional, but always a smart move.
Macrium Reflect
AOMEI Backupper Standard (free)
Hasleo Backup Suite (free)



Get the Windows 11 ISO (Option #2), and save it to your desktop...


Right click the ISO image and choose: MOUNT
Open File Explorer and you will see a new drive letter. It will "look" like a DVD optical drive.
Double click the new drive letter to open it.
Find setup.exe and double click it to start the in-place upgrade.

Choose the Keep personal files and apps option.

After it's all done... to UNmount the ISO image, right click the new drive letter and choose: EJECT.

The ONLY thing you will lose is some of your personalizations.
Your drivers, programs and data will be intact.


=====================================================================================
=====================================================================================



If your current Windows 10 drive is an MBR disk, then you can convert it to a GPT disk, without losing data.
Like this...




====================================================================================
====================================================================================


If you decide to do a clean install...

My OS is on an MBR drive. I need to convert it before I can do any upgrades.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING AM4 AMD B550
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DRAM DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2-VIOTEK FI24D V2 24-Inch QHD Gaming Monitor with IPS Technology
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Blue NVME 500GB, Seagate Exos 6TB, Western Digital Black 2TB
    PSU
    Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80+ Gold
    Case
    Fractal Design R4
    Cooling
    AMD AM4 Wraith Prism LED RGB Cooler Fan
My OS is on an MBR drive. I need to convert it before I can do any upgrades.



Yes.

Your other option of course, is to just do a clean install.
I know that's a pain... but... Windows 11 is at best, kind of twitchy.

You might be happier, down the road, if you just do a clean install.



/edit


I see you've filled out your specs. You have a LOT of storage.
Just make a full backup of Windows 10, in case you want to go back to Windows 10... then just do a clean install of Windows 11.

Or... do the steps I listed in post #2 above.


And... I gave you ten "cookies" for filling out your computer specs. :-)
 
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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Yes.

Your other option of course, is to just do a clean install.
I know that's a pain... but... Windows 11 is at best, kind of twitchy.

You might be happier, down the road, if you just do a clean install.
And I understand that about a clean install, but my W10 is working great. I like it, but I need to get it done since it is going to be unsupported next year sometime. It will take me at a minimum of 24 hours since I have so many programs and so many of them are large and take a long time to install. Then the setup for each is a long process also. I really want to bypass all that if possible. I'll look it over.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING AM4 AMD B550
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DRAM DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2-VIOTEK FI24D V2 24-Inch QHD Gaming Monitor with IPS Technology
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Blue NVME 500GB, Seagate Exos 6TB, Western Digital Black 2TB
    PSU
    Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80+ Gold
    Case
    Fractal Design R4
    Cooling
    AMD AM4 Wraith Prism LED RGB Cooler Fan
And I understand that about a clean install, but my W10 is working great. I like it, but I need to get it done since it is going to be unsupported next year sometime. It will take me at a minimum of 24 hours since I have so many programs and so many of them are large and take a long time to install. Then the setup for each is a long process also. I really want to bypass all that if possible. I'll look it over.

See my edit in post #5. :-)


However you convert MBR to GPT, make SURE the option you choose is for the conversion "without data loss".
Besides the conversion tutorial I linked in post #2, there are also 3rd party programs that will do the conversion also.

If you use one of those... make SURE it will convert and OS disk (Windows disk), without data loss.



When I converted a Win 10 disk from MBR to GPT, I used option #1, here...

 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2 26100.1150
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-14700F
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super OC 12 GB
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB NVMe (Win 11)
    SK hynix P41 500GB NVMe (Win 10)
    SK hynix P41 2TB NVMe (x3)
    Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x Shift
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black + 7 Phantek T-30's
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3
    Internet Speed
    350Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.3880
    On System One
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700F
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus WiFi
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Gaming
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung F27T350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD
    PSU
    Corsair HX750
    Case
    Cougar MX330-G Window
    Cooling
    Hyper 212 EVO
    Internet Speed
    350Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
@ingeborgdot


Your BIOS can run in two different "modes".
The mode you choose has to match the disk (MBR or GPT), Windows is installed on, or the computer won't boot.

Short version...

The BIOS type and the disk type, have to "match", or the computer won't boot.

UEFI BIOS goes with GPT boot disk.
Regular BIOS (non-UEFI), goes with an MBR disk.





This is what MY BIOS looks like. It's also a 500 series ASUS board, so yours should be similar.

The RED boxes are the settings you need to be concerned with to be able to run the BIOS is UEFI mode.

Image1.png


For Boot Device Control, you need to choose either... UEFI and Legacy OPROM, or just UEFI only, for a GPT disk.
For Secure Boot, you need to choose Windows UEFI Mode


In order...

1. Convert the Windows drive to GPT...
2. Then enter the BIOS and on the Boot tab... deal with the settings in the RED boxes.
3. On some motherboards, you'll need to have CSM enabled, or some you'll want it disabled.
4. Either way, you'll need to temporarily enable CSM so you can get to the Boot Device Control settings.
5. After you set the Boot Device Control... then you may have to leave CSM enabled, or you might need to disable it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
As Ghot commented MBR > GPT

BIOS: Legacy > UEFI



An alternative in case MBR2GPT fails: Consider making backup images > save to another disk drive or the cloud

Modify the BIOS: UEFI native

Clean install Windows 11 with it's 4 default partitions (drive GPT architecture)

Restore an image of only C: partition converting MBR to GPT.

Perform startup repair as needed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
As Ghot commented MBR > GPT

BIOS: Legacy > UEFI



An alternative in case MBR2GPT fails: Consider making backup images > save to another disk drive or the cloud

Modify the BIOS: UEFI native

Clean install Windows 11 with it's 4 default partitions (drive GPT architecture)

Restore an image of only C: partition converting MBR to GPT.

Perform startup repair as needed.
But by performing a clean install I will lose all of my programs, and have to spend literally days reinstalling and setting up again with everything I have. I really don't want to do that, but may have to do it one day.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING AM4 AMD B550
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DRAM DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2-VIOTEK FI24D V2 24-Inch QHD Gaming Monitor with IPS Technology
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Blue NVME 500GB, Seagate Exos 6TB, Western Digital Black 2TB
    PSU
    Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80+ Gold
    Case
    Fractal Design R4
    Cooling
    AMD AM4 Wraith Prism LED RGB Cooler Fan
All partitions are deleted and Windows 11 is clean installed with a BIOS UEFI and drive GPT.

Then the C: partition with it's programs is restored with a conversion of MBR to GPT.

The above is an alternative in case MBR2GPT fails.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
But by performing a clean install I will lose all of my programs, and have to spend literally days reinstalling and setting up again with everything I have. I really don't want to do that, but may have to do it one day.



Sooner or later, for one reason or another, we all have to do that.

The good part of a clean install is this... "backups".

Once you do a clean install, and install all your programs, etc., you make a full OS backup.
Then you try to come up with a system, that you can deal with.
If you do it right... you may never have to re-install Windows 11 again.

Also... I always install large programs or large games on my storage drive.
I try to keep the "used space" on my C:\ drive under 50GB total.
This makes backups and restores... take less than 2 minutes.

When backups and restores are that fast... you can then use backup software as a tool.
Any time you want to test some new program, or have to do Windows Updates... make a new backup, first.
Then... if something breaks... no biggie. Just restore from a backup and try again, or not. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Also... I always install large programs or large games on my storage drive.
I try to keep the "used space" on my C:\ drive under 50GB total.
This makes backups and restores... take less than 2 minutes.

:-)
I used to do that, but someone a while back said not to do it because it will cause problems later, so when I redid my pc several years ago, I did it on the c drive.
I wish I hadn't of listened.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING AM4 AMD B550
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DRAM DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2-VIOTEK FI24D V2 24-Inch QHD Gaming Monitor with IPS Technology
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Blue NVME 500GB, Seagate Exos 6TB, Western Digital Black 2TB
    PSU
    Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80+ Gold
    Case
    Fractal Design R4
    Cooling
    AMD AM4 Wraith Prism LED RGB Cooler Fan
I understand that about a clean install, but my W10 is working great. I like it, but I need to get it done since it is going to be unsupported next year sometime. It will take me at a minimum of 24 hours since I have so many programs and so many of them are large and take a long time to install. Then the setup for each is a long process also. I really want to bypass all that if possible.
I have my own method to convert from MBR to GPT. I used it to migrate my Windows 10 and all its installed apps from my old and unsupported Legacy/MBR machine to a replacement UEFI/GPT machine that's now my System One Below.

I had to use it again yesterday. It was my own fault really, having just finished installing, configuring and backing up Windows 11 on an unsupported laptop, I realised that it was not (as I had assumed) a Legacy bios machine, but it did in fact have a UEFI bios (but set up to boot in CSM/legacy mode). So I disabled CSM and enabled secure boot then, rather than reinstall and reconfigure from scratch, I did a clean install in UEFI mode then just restored the backup of its C: partition.

You might like to try the method I used to migrate a legacy/MBR install of Windows 10 from an old unsupported machine to my System One in My Computers below, a new UEFI/GPT supported one, so that it could then be upgraded to Windows 11.

First make a Macrium Reflect image of the old machine.

Next do a clean install in UEFI mode of the same version of Windows 10 on the new machine, this formats the drive as GPT and sets up all the required partitions. If it says the drive is currently MBR and it can't install, then from a command prompt use Diskpart to convert it to GPT.

Then restore JUST the C: partition from the Reflect image to replace the one created by the clean install (you can resize the partition to fit during the restore, if required).

Finally use the Reflect rescue media's 'Fix Windows boot problems' too to build the correct BCD entry. Windows should now boot.
Windows 11 Upgrade - MBR to GPT Issues - post #11
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
I used to do that, but someone a while back said not to do it because it will cause problems later, so when I redid my pc several years ago, I did it on the c drive.
I wish I hadn't of listened.


I don't move the User folders to the storage drive. IMO, that does cause problems.
I just "install" large programs and games on a storage drive.

In fact, I don't even use the USER folders, like Documents, Pictures, Videos... etc.
I make my own folders for those type things... on a storage drive.

Microsoft can't seem to get those User folders... working properly.



Since MS can't seem to get things... right... I ujust decided to do it myself. :D


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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
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