Insider Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22563.1 (ni_release) - Feb. 24


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Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22563 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • This build is available for ARM64 PCs.
  • As a reminder, not every build we release will have as many new features as last week’s build. However, this build includes a few new features for Insiders to try out as we roll them out including a tablet-optimized taskbar experience, some improvements to content in Widgets, and a new group policy for IT admins in education.
  • We also have some notable changes and improvements in this build including improvements for File Explorer, support for Microsoft Edge tabs in snap assist and ALT + TAB, and support for Emoji 14.0.
  • This month’s webcast on how to tackle submitting feedback on complicated issues is available to watch on-demand here.

What’s new in Build 22563

Tablet-optimized taskbar

We’re introducing a new taskbar state that’s specifically designed to make you feel more confident and comfortable using your device as a tablet. Your taskbar will automatically transition to this optimized version when you disconnect or fold back the keyboard on your 2-in-1 device. This feature only works on devices that can be used as tablets. It does not work on laptops or desktop PCs.

There are two states of this taskbar: collapsed and expanded. In the collapsed state, the taskbar gets out your way, gives you more screen space, and prevents you from accidentally invoking the taskbar when you’re holding your tablet. In the expanded state, the taskbar is optimized to be easier to use with touch. You can easily switch between the two states by swiping up and down on the bottom of your device.


Tablet-optimized taskbar in both collapsed and expanded states.
Tablet-optimized taskbar in both collapsed and expanded states.

To see if this feature is available on your device, navigate to Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Taskbar behaviors where a new setting called “Automatically hide the taskbar when using your device as tablet” will be shown and set to on by default.

[We are beginning to roll this feature out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Desktop Environment > Taskbar. See the known issues section below for a set of known issues for this feature.

Making Widgets content more dynamic

We’re trying out some changes in Widgets to bring more dynamic content to your Widgets board, by experimenting with bringing together the widgets and news feed experiences as a dynamic blended feed containing both widgets and news content. This should make it easier for you to discover and engage with new widgets and news content through your feed. With a dynamic feed there’s less of a burden on you to curate the canvas on your own, but you’ll still be able to pin your favorite Widgets to the top if you want.

If you’ve already customized your Widgets board, all your pinned widgets will be exactly where you’d expect them to be, your existing customizations won’t be lost.

The Widgets board Insiders see before and how it will look with dynamic content.
The Widgets board Insiders see before and how it will look with dynamic content.

This release focuses on making widgets discoverable from the feed and over time we plan to make the feed even more personalized.

[We are beginning to roll this feature out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Desktop Environment > Widgets OR by clicking on your profile picture on the Widgets board and choosing “Give feedback” toward the bottom above the version number. See the known issues section below for a set of known issues for this feature.

New group policy for managing Windows Update notifications

For IT Admins in education, we have a new policy built with you and your students in mind. Starting with this build, you will finally be able to turn off all Windows Update notifications that might distract your students during the school day. You will be able to provide this better experience while staying compliant as the notifications will start to show again if user action is needed and the devices reaches the deadline, though hopefully most devices are able to automatically restart overnight when the student isn’t there.

The new group policy for managing Windows Update notifications as shown in the group policy editor.
The new group policy for managing Windows Update notifications as shown in the group policy editor.

To get to this new group policy, just open the group policy editor and navigate to Computer configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage end user experience > Display options for update notifications.

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Install and Update > Downloading, installing, and configuring Windows Update.

Changes and Improvements

[Taskbar]
  • [ADDED 2/25] We are beginning to roll out the ability to more easily manage your Bluetooth devices directly within Quick Settings, including the ability to connect, disconnect, and see battery level for supported devices.

    Easily manage your Bluetooth devices directly within Quick Settings.

    Easily manage your Bluetooth devices directly within Quick Settings.
[File Explorer]
  • Search from Quick Access has been expanded to include content from your OneDrive, Downloads, and any indexed location. Use Quick Access to find results fast.
  • Files in Quick Access without any local presence (for example, files shared to you from another OneDrive) now show thumbnails and work with OneDrive sharing.
[Windowing]
  • We’ve made it even easier to snap the most relevant windows next to each other side by side by introducing Microsoft Edge tabs as suggested windows in snap assist. When a window is snapped, you will now see 3 of your most recent Edge tabs shown (by default) as suggestions. You can always control whether to show Microsoft Edge tabs and number of tabs shown when snapping or pressing ALT + TAB via Settings > System > Multitasking.

Adjust how Microsoft Edge tabs are displayed in snap assist.
Adjust how Microsoft Edge tabs are displayed in snap assist.

[Input]
  • Starting with this build, Windows Insiders can now use 37 new emoji characters in the emoji picker as part of Emoji 14.0. Some of the new emoji include “melting face”, “troll”, “coral”, “beans”, “playground slide”, and “mirror ball”.
New “melting face”, “troll”, “coral”, “beans”, “playground slide”, and “mirror ball” emoji introduced in Emoji 14.0 update.
New “melting face”, “troll”, “coral”, “beans”, “playground slide”, and “mirror ball” emoji introduced in Emoji 14.0 update.
  • Skin tone variations for hands gestures and people bring the total to 112 emoji which includes the hand shake. You can now choose the skin tones between the two hands in the hand-shake emoji.
  • The updated accessibility flyout on the login screen, introduced in Build 22557, is now available to all Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel.
The accessibility flyout on the login screen now matches the Windows 11 design principles.
The accessibility flyout on the login screen now matches the Windows 11 design principles.

Fixes

[General]
  • Improved login performance for a specific case where someone had a very large temp folder.
  • Fixed a few issues impacting explorer.exe reliability.
  • Updated the volume flyout when using the hardware keys on your keyboard to account for cases where there is no working audio.
[Taskbar]
  • The auto-hide taskbar will now stay expanded while you use Task View to switch Desktops.
  • When dragging a file or app to the taskbar, we’ve updated the message next to the mouse showing what is and is not supported to now respond to dark mode and contrast themes.
  • Fixed a cyclical explorer.exe crash that was happening for people using the French (Canada) display language, related to the battery icon tooltip.
  • Updated the mute icon in the taskbar so that the tooltip now gives a hint for the keyboard shortcut (WIN + Alt + K).
[Tablet-optimized taskbar]

NOTE: These fixes will only show if tablet-optimized taskbar is enabled on your device. Please see above for details on the tablet-optimized taskbar, which is beginning to roll out to Windows Insiders and not yet available for everyone.
  • The top border line of taskbar now extends across the entire taskbar instead of stopping just before the system tray area.
  • The button styling for the hidden icons flyout is now consistent with the design of the rest of the system tray buttons.
  • The taskbar should no longer flicker when switching input methods or during other scenarios where system tray icons are added and removed.
[Start menu]
  • Fixed an issue that was causing the Start menu to not open consistently with the new touch gesture where you swipe up from the bottom of the screen.
  • When recommended items are newly added or removed, their icons will now be animated to fade in and out.
  • The sleep icon in the power menu is no longer incorrectly showing as a bell.
  • Fixed an issue causing the apostrophe in the power button tooltip to not display correctly.
  • Names of apps in folders no longer appear blurred briefly when opening folders in Start.
  • Fixed a crash some people were encountering when trying to share an app from the All apps list.
[File Explorer]
  • Fixed an issue where the OneDrive icon wouldn’t show up in the File Explorer command bar sometimes when it should have.
  • Removed a random white dot that was appearing in the context menu when right clicking on File Explorer’s title bar in dark mode.
[Input]
  • Made some improvements to the emoji search results based on feedback, including generally putting a stronger preference in the search results to the exact name match of emoji (for example, the balloon emoji first when searching for balloon) over the various other emoji that might be returned for those keywords.
  • Fixed an issue causing Insiders to not see the updated Korean IME design in the previous flight.
  • Fixed a couple issues with the coloring in the IME candidate window.
  • Mitigated a crash that was happening when attempting to access the Personalization > Text Input in Settings after upgrading if you had customized your touch keyboard appearance.
  • Addressed an explorer.exe crash that could happen when switching input methods.
  • Improved the performance of launching the input switcher for the first time.
  • If you have “Show accent color on Start and Taskbar” enabled in Color Settings, the input switcher background color will now follow that preference.
  • Fixed the Typing link name in the touch keyboard settings options, so it matches the Settings page that opens.
  • System > Clipboard in Settings now explains why the “Sync across your devices” option could be grayed out.
  • Added text to the emoji panel to help explain certain scenarios where emoji search results aren’t supported.
[Search]
  • We’ve done some more work to reduce the chance that the recent searches flyout could get stuck on the screen.
  • We’ve addressed an issue in recent Dev Channel builds leading to some Insiders experiencing an issue where search would open, but only show a magnifying glass in the window and not display any results. If you continue experiencing issues, please file feedback under Desktop Environment > Search with details about what exactly you are seeing.
[Settings]
  • Addressed an issue where pop up dialogs (for example, when adding an optional feature, or when configuring your IP address) in Settings were launching left aligned instead of centered.
  • Addressed an issue where RSAT: DNS Server Tools would show that it was installed in Optional Features if you attempted to install it but wouldn’t actually be installed.
  • Fixed an issue where Display settings might not show the option to change refresh rate when your PC was in portrait mode.
  • Settings should no longer crash when attempting to uninstall apps via Apps > Installed apps when your User Account Control settings are set to Always Notify.
  • Windows Update > Update History should show history for feature updates again with this build.
  • Mitigated an issue related to the Windows Update page that could make Settings hang.
  • The link to give feedback in Settings > System > Notifications will now take you directly to notifications feedback section in the Feedback Hub.
  • Fixed an issue preventing you from adding Bluetooth or Cast to the Quick Settings flyout.
  • The media controls above Quick Settings should now show when you open media or hide when you close media more reliably.
  • Fixed an issue where the number in the volume popup that opens when you use your hardware keys didn’t match the volume number in Quick Settings.
  • Improved the positioning of the Accessibility flyout above the button on the login screen.
  • Fixed an issue that was occasionally causing certain Bluetooth devices to not auto-connect after powering on or resuming your PC from sleep/hibernate.
[Widgets]
  • With the taskbar left-aligned, information such as temperature is now shown.
  • Fixed an issue where Widgets weather info may have shown different information across a multi-monitor setup.
[Task Manager]
  • Did some work to help address an issue where the navigation bar in the updated Task Manager design was showing black glitches when you launched Task Manager from a minimized state.
[Windowing]
  • Fixed an issue that was preventing you from using the minimize, maximize, and close buttons on maximized apps (and other scenarios) because Notification Center had kept focus.
  • Did some work to improve the smoothness of the animation when invoking Task View using the 3-finger on screen gesture.
  • Improved general reliability of ALT + Tab to help address scenarios where it could get stuck.
  • Addressed an issue that was impacting the performance when using ALT + Tab, Task View or snap assist in recent builds.
  • Snap group titles should appear properly when using Windows with an Arabic or Hebrew display language now.
  • Made some refinements to the snap layouts invocation experience when moving a window to the top of the screen.
  • Fixed an issue where dragging a snapped window while snap assist is active would include a thumbnail of the dragged window.
  • When using the down arrow to navigate through app thumbnails in snap assist, it should cycle to the top now when you’ve reached the bottom row.
  • Fixed two crashes that could happen when using snap layouts on a secondary monitor or a portrait mode monitor.
  • Made the margins for snapping to the left and right side of the screen a little bigger.
  • Switching desktops using the keyboard shortcuts while the Start menu is open should no longer cause your desktop to unexpectedly switch back after closing Start.
[Network]
  • Added some text to show Disconnecting to communicate if work is in progress after you’ve clicked the Disconnect button in the VPN section of Quick Settings.
  • Fixed an issue where Managed VPN profiles with IPv4 routes specified might disconnect frequently.
[Narrator]
  • Narrator will no longer jump up to the search box in Start after using the power or account menus.
  • After switching to the All apps section of the Start menu, Narrator will now navigate to and read you app information correctly.
  • Narrator in Word online will now read the new line correctly when arrowing up and down between paragraphs.
  • Fixed an issue that was causing Narrator to stop reading or being able to move the cursor when entering tables in Microsoft Word.
  • Improved how Narrator reads content in the Accessibility flyout on the login screen.
[Other]
  • Fixed an issue that was causing the back button in the sign in window of certain apps to not to be visible when using a contrast theme.
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 that became generally available on October 5th, 2021.

Known issues

[General]
  • Users running Windows 10 who try to upgrade directly to Build 22563 in the Dev Channel will encounter a hang at “0% Downloading” on Windows Update. To bypass, please join the Beta Channel, install the offered Windows 11 build there, and then switch to the Dev Channel to receive the Build 22563 update. This issue is understood and will be fixed in an upcoming build.
  • When going through the device setup experience (OOBE) on the Enterprise edition, the network add screen will be skipped on the first attempt. As a workaround, when users see the “name your computer” option, please reboot and re-start OOBE. The network add screen will now appear as expected.
  • Many users won’t hear the startup sound right now.
[Taskbar]
  • If you right click on the Start icon in this build or press WIN + X, explorer.exe will likely crash. Please use CTRL + Shift + Esc for the time being if you use this menu to launch Task Manager.
[Tablet-optimized taskbar]
  • Windows Insiders who have this feature enabled will not be able to use new touch gestures that start on the bottom of the screen announced in Build 22557 until they first remove or fold back their keyboard. Insiders with PCs such as laptops that cannot be used as tablets, and who have this feature enabled, will not be able to use the touch gestures that start on the bottom of the screen. This will be fixed in a future flight.
  • The taskbar doesn’t always automatically collapse after launching an app or tapping outside of the expanded taskbar on 2-in-1 devices.
  • Some areas of the OS are not yet tracking the height of the expanded taskbar on 2-in-1 devices so you may see overlapping components, such as Widgets overlapping with the taskbar.
  • Transition animations are still being tuned for going between expanded and collapsed taskbar on 2-in-1 devices.
[File Explorer]
  • The File Explorer search box may not work when typing and clicking a suggestion.
  • We’re working fixing issues regarding icon sizing, visual bugs, and text clipping in the flyout showing OneDrive storage.
[Widgets]
  • Sometimes when pinning from the Feed, the pinned widget is placed at the top instead of below other pinned widgets. If this happens this will autocorrect within 30 minutes, moving the recently pinned widget to the expected default location. Or you can sign out of your Widgets board and immediately signing back in should correct the problem.
  • After rearranging widgets in the widgets board, some users experience problems with widgets in the pinned section rendering incorrectly. If this happens, signing out of your widgets board and immediately signing back in should correct the problem.
[Focus]
  • The taskbar icon and tooltip may not match the focus state.
  • The Clock app does not yet update Windows Focus state when configuring focus sessions within the app. This will be addressed in a future app update.
[Live captions]
  • Certain apps in full screen (e.g., video players) prevent live captions from being visible.
  • Certain apps positioned near the top of the screen and closed before live captions is run will re-launch behind the live captions window positioned at top. Use the system menu (ALT + Spacebar) while the app has focus to move the app’s window further down.
  • The very top of maximized apps (e.g., title bar window management buttons) can’t be reached with touch while live captions is positioned at the top.
[Task Manager]
  • We are aware that the Efficiency mode icon is missing on some child processes.
  • Some settings options are not preserved.
  • We are working on fixing issues regarding icon size, visual bugs and in most cases the workaround is to either resize Task Manager or lower the resolution settings from Settings > Display > Display resolution.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk.

SDK NuGet packages are now also flighting at NuGet Gallery | WindowsSDK which include:
These NuGet packages provide more granular access to the SDK and better integrate in CI/CD pipelines.

About the Dev Channel [Updated!]

The Dev Channel receives builds that represent long lead work from our engineers with features and experiences that may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. It is important to remember that the builds we release to the Dev Channel should not be seen as matched to any specific release of Windows and the features included may change over time, be removed, or replaced in Insider builds or may never be released beyond Windows Insiders to general customers. For more information, please read this blog post about how we plan to use the Dev Channel to incubate new ideas, work on long lead items, and control the states of individual features.

These aren’t always stable builds, and sometimes you will see issues that block key activities or require workarounds. It is important to make sure you read the known issues listed in our blog posts as we document many of these issues with each flight.

Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. You will not be able to switch from the Dev Channel to the Beta or Release Preview Channels without doing a clean install back to the released version of Windows 11 currently.

The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.

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Well I've shut down and rebooted this VM dozens of times now - it always have the new Task Manager.
MS made an A tester. :)
 

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Also this may add to the weirdness, I had through the Vivetool fix and that reverted after a reboot to
Darn. MS won't even let you have the new Task Manager by using a hack. We must have done or said something to tick MS off. :cool:
 

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MS made an A tester. :)
Like I said, I'm not signed up as an Insider. So I'm probably not subject to any Insider A/B testing.
 

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I have never tried chromes "live captions" before but gave it a go tonight, and I have to say it works better than MS's version. Still struggles with homonyms and poor speech but was more readable than MS's offering.
 

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Like I said, I'm not signed up as an Insider. So I'm probably not subject to any Insider A/B testing.
If you're running an Insider build, you're a part of the A/B testing.
 

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If you're running an Insider build, you're a part of the A/B testing.
Lucky me :D And there's me - not signed up and only with a local account. :D
 

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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

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Lucky me :D And there's me - not signed up and only with a local account. :D
UUPDump has made it easy for almost anyone to download and install an Insider build.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
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    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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Kari

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UUPDump has made it easy for almost anyone to download and install an Insider build.
Exactly.

You do not have to join Windows Insider program. Just get an Insider ISO, and install it, or upgrade existing W10 / W11 installation with it.

Kari
 

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    Hyper-V Virtual Machine (host in System 2 specs)
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    Intel Core i7-8550U
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    6 GB
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    Microsoft Hyper-V Video
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    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
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    Windows 11 PRO x64 Dev Channel
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    Laptop
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    HP HP ProBook 470 G5
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    Intel Core i7-8550U
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    HP 837F KBC Version 02.3D.00
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    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 & NVIDIA GeForce 930MX
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    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
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    Wireless Logitech MSX mouse
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    100 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up
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    2 * 3 TB USB HDD
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Wynona

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No new Task Manager for me.
 

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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    ntel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
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    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
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    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
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    HP
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    Standard
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    100 mbps
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    Windows Defender
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    That's all Folks!
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
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    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
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    Logitech M705
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    50 mbps
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    Firefox 90.2
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Winuser

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Exactly.

You do not have to join Windows Insider program. Just get an Insider ISO, and install it, or upgrade existing W10 / W11 installation with it.

Kari
As I understand it from reading post from others, they just downloaded and upgraded. I don't know if there are any advantages or disadvantages installing Insider builds without joining first.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Dev
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    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    AMD Radeon
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    15.6"
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    1920x1080
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    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
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Bree

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As I understand it from reading post from others, they just downloaded and upgraded. I don't know if there are any advantages or disadvantages installing Insider builds without joining first.
As an 'oustider' I downloaded and installed the previous build. The upgrade to this new build was then offered and carried out by Windows Update, just as it would have been if I was an Insider.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB HDD
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    Edge, Firefox
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    0T6M8G
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    4GB
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    1366x768
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    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

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The only problem I have found so far that has annoyed me is that I can not right click the start button anymore :/
If I do try to right click to to get the menu to show, the PC just freezes up and goes back to normal after a few seconds.

PS. this build did not revourt my bios or my Nvidia GPU drivers like the rest, so that's a plus :)
But, I have heard different from AMD users.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel i5 - 11600K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590-F
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz 8GB x4 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 aorus master
    Monitor(s) Displays
    TV 55PUS6754, MAG271CQR, aoc 2450w
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 2K, 1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A2000 1TB NVMe x2, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe, Samsung 860 EVO 500GB SSD, ST1000DM003-9YN162 Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM HDD
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    Corsair RM750
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    Lian Li PC-O11DW Dynamic
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    Corsair Hydro H150i PRO (exhaust), lian li uni fan sl120 x5 (intake)
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The only problem I have found so far that has annoyed me is that I can not right click the start button anymore :/
If I do try to right click to to get the menu to show, the PC just freezes up and goes back to normal after a few seconds.

PS. this build did not revourt my bios or my Nvidia GPU drivers like the rest, so that's a plus :)
But, I have heard different from AMD users.
On my new desktop I can use the right click., On my old desktop explorer crashes and the screen refreshes. I haven't updated my laptop yet.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Dev
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    Laptop
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    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    AMD Radeon
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    15.6"
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    1920x1080
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The only problem I have found so far that has annoyed me is that I can not right click the start button anymore :/
If I do try to right click to to get the menu to show, the PC just freezes up and goes back to normal after a few seconds.

PS. this build did not revourt my bios or my Nvidia GPU drivers like the rest, so that's a plus :)
But, I have heard different from AMD users.
I've uninstalled/disabled both StartAllBack and Explorer Patcher to be sure they have nothing to do with the inability to right click and get results of the Start Icon.

And, nope, they didn't. It still won't let me do anything with right click Start.
 

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    Windows 11 20000.613
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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    ntel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
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    HP
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    Standard
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    Logitech M705
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    That's all Folks!
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
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    Intel
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    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
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    1920 x
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    SSD (512 GB)
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    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
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    Logitech M705
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    50 mbps
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I've uninstalled/disabled both StartAllBack and Explorer Patcher to be sure they have nothing to do with the inability to right click and get results of the Start Icon.

And, nope, they didn't. It still won't let me do anything with right click Start.
That’s been my problem since the install of this build. Without right click on start, I feel really hampered, to say the least, Winona. rolling back to previous build and reinstalling did nothing either. I think this is an A/B issue. Many people report full function of right click start.
 

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    iBuyPower (special build)
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    AMD Ryzen 7X
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    Asus Prime x370 Pro
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    74 Gb
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    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
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    Samsung UHD 27 inch
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The start context menu is broken on all three of my laptops and task manager is a shambles.

2022-03-01 05_36_01-Task Manager.png
 

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    ASUS VivoBook
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
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    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
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    12GB
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    RX Vega 10 Graphics
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    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
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    1920x1080@60Hz
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    INTEL SSD 660p 512GB NVMe
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    25 Mbps
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    Edge
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    Defender
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    Windows 11
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    ACER
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
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    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
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    16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
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    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
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    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
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    1.024 TB SSD M.2 2280 - Samsung
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I have never seen such a poor upgrade as the last two since the very early days of W10.

The more modern update was frequent upgrades with only one or two new features, each tested reasonably well before.

It looks like some new idiot manager has decided "Sod it - lets release lots of features and let the mugs out there do our testing".

I accept the DEV version will have bugs but there is a limit where the standard is unacceptable. This line has not only been crossed but left miles behind!
 

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    ASUS Vivobook 14
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    I7
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    N/A
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    1920x1080
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    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
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    Yep, got one
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois
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    Built in
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    Bluetooth , wired
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I have never seen such a poor upgrade as the last two since the very early days of W10.

The more modern update was frequent upgrades with only one or two new features, each tested reasonably well before.

It looks like some new idiot manager has decided "Sod it - lets release lots of features and let the mugs out there do our testing".

I accept the DEV version will have bugs but there is a limit where the standard is unacceptable. This line has not only been crossed but left miles behind!
Agree, both recent ones have been shocking
 

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    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W10 VHDX Triple Boot
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    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
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    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
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    32GB
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    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
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    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
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So I went back to previous version and tried the captions (we call them subtitles in UK) option. I use subtitles where I can and when in bed, I turn sound off (as do not wear hearing aids at night) and use subtitles.

I had to install a US version but got the subtitles working when watching an Amazon Prime video.

For some annoying reason, we in UK often get a message saying subtitles are not available in our country, and no idea why as subtitles are available from many sources. I would not mind so much, but sometimes I can watch same video in US version and it does have subtitles. Unfortunately, not all videos are in both regions.

So I tried the new option but it is just too erratic, falling over badly with homonyms, and poor pronounciation. It is harder work sorting out what the subtitle should be rather than interpreting poor speech.

I seriously doubt MS have actually employed deaf people to test this option, as it needs a lot more work - they should be processing sound track ahead of the video stream rather than on the fly and re-muxing using some contextial intelligence.

They would have to buffer sound and video of course for direct streaming to enable more intelligent processing of the sound.

So sadly, this feature is barely more than a gimmick at the moment.
Subtitles are often available from opensubtitles.org
You can also if not available in EN or if you want to translate EN / Other languages use free subtitle translator :


If you also use programs like KODI for playing multimedia you can dynamically loads subtitles from various sources -- KODI is brilliant but needs a bit of setting up though.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    2 X Intel i7

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I've uninstalled/disabled both StartAllBack and Explorer Patcher to be sure they have nothing to do with the inability to right click and get results of the Start Icon.

And, nope, they didn't. It still won't let me do anything with right click Start.
I have StartAllBack installed on my new desktop and the right click works. I don't have StartAllBack installed on my old desktop and the right click doesn't work. Hopefully it gets fixed in the next build.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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