Windows 11 performance on AMD systems VS windows 10


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So as some may be aware there is an issue with the scheduler in windows 11.
Where Microsoft in their infinite wisdom sat down with just Intel to design the scheduler to run on big-little alder lake.
Now they are sitting down with AMD to bring that back into line.

Which probably is where Microsoft derived the compatible list of CPU's from.

As someone that likes to run benchmarks sometimes for stress testing purposes I've put windows 11 through several over the past month or so I've had it installed.

Ryzen 9 3900x.
Slower single core and multi score results in every benchmark I can find.

So with that i'll be going back to windows 10, also because the reliance on TPM for security is baffling as it has been breached multiple times going back as far as 2011.
I may or may not revisit windows 11 once the fix is applied but likely not for several months at this point.
All the best.
 

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    Ryzen 9 5950x
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    MSI X570 Unify
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    32gb
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AMD Ryzen 9 5900X here. I've not run any benchmarks but I've only noticed a slow down using a couple of programs; Auslogics Disk Defragmenter and Specy, although Specy has always been slow on this machine odly. I'm not a gamer but I do edit video with DaVinci Resolve which is working as expected and rendering quickly.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    Stormforce Prism RTX 3070
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus AMD TUF Gaming X570-Plus ATX Motherboard – Aura Sync RGB
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    16GB DDR4
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    RTX 3070
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    2 x Samsung U32H850UMU 32 inch 4K
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    3840x2160
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    1 x M2.2
    1x M2.1
    5 x HDD
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    Cooler Master 120L AIO Watercooler
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    Rii wireless
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    Generic cable
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    320Mbps
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    Firefox & Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I wasn't aware they had TPM 2.0 back in 2011... the things you learn /s
Unsure about tpm 2.0 but tpm has been breached as far back as that.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Me?
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950x
    Motherboard
    MSI X570 Unify
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x 4k 60hz 1 x 1440p 165hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    1tb sabrent rocket gen 4, 1tb 970 evo gen 3 - nvme.
    2tb 860 evo
    2tb Firecuda
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200i platinum
    Case
    Coolermaster C700P
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    Custom water loop
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    Corsair Strafe mk2
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    Corsair darkcore pro
    Internet Speed
    70
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    Edge/Chrome
    Antivirus
    ESET
You must not have gotten the memo, it`s been around since 1984 :lie:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Skylake Special X299
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 9900X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II
    Memory
    GSkill Trident Z RGB 32GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR)
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    EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3 Ultra Gaming (12G-P5-4877-KL)
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    Supreme FX
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    Asus PG279Q
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    2560 x 1440 165Hz
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    Samsung 980 Pro 500GB x2, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2, Western Digital Black 4TB x1
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    EVGA 1200 P2, EVGA Black Custom Braided Cables
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    Thermaltake View 31 Tempered Glass Limited Edition
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    Corsair H115i, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Logitech G910 Orion Spark
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    Logitech G700s, Asus ROG GX860 Buzzard
    Internet Speed
    Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes 4.5.2
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    Thermaltake Riing Duo 14 x3, Thermaltake Riing Plus 14 x2, Corsair HS70 Pro Wireless Headset
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Skylake Special Z170
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    Intel Core i7 6700K
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    Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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    GSkill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZR)
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    EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2, EVGA Pro SLI Bridge
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    Realtek High Definition
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    AOC G2460PG
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    1920 x 1080 144Hz
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    Samsung 870 Evo 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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    EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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    Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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    Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Logitech G500s
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    Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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    Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes 4.5.2
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    Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp
Short version: Microsoft said they would patch this in October this year. So far they haven't done that.
Yeah they did, from what I've been hearing it will be a little longer now.

I can always upgrade again but I'm not going to wait for them to fix something that shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
It irks me immensely when a company releases software untested and not working as intended expecting users to just accept 15% performance drops until it is fixed.
As a dev myself it I find it completely irresponsible, wee bug fine massive performance problem...not fine at all.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Me?
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950x
    Motherboard
    MSI X570 Unify
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x 4k 60hz 1 x 1440p 165hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    1tb sabrent rocket gen 4, 1tb 970 evo gen 3 - nvme.
    2tb 860 evo
    2tb Firecuda
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200i platinum
    Case
    Coolermaster C700P
    Cooling
    Custom water loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe mk2
    Mouse
    Corsair darkcore pro
    Internet Speed
    70
    Browser
    Edge/Chrome
    Antivirus
    ESET
The only bench I've run since clean installing 11 is time spy which achieved the highest score yet on this hardware with SAM off.
 

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    Intel Core i9 13900k, Intel UHD 770 integrated
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    MSI MEG Z790 ACE
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    32gb G.Skill Trident Z5 6600
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    Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC
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    EVGA Nu Audio, Razer Kraken V3 Pro, Realtek Onboard
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    LG 38GN950-B, Benq EX3415R nano IPS monitors
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    Samsung 970 Pro, Samsung 850 Pro, Crucial MX500, WD Black SN700, WD Black 8tb HD
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    EVGA Supernova G2 1300w
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    Thermaltake Level 20 XT
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    ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 420 ARGB in push/pull, Antec Prism X 120mm ARGB Fans x 15
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    Razer Huntsman Elite V1
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    Corsair Dark Core Pro SE on an Asus ROG Balteus Qi pad
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    Norton 360 Premium
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    I sit on a Secret Lab Titan XL 2020 chair.😍
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    2021 HP Omen
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H
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    factory
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    16gb ddr 3200
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    Nvidia RTX 3060 Mobile
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    onboard B&O
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    Hynix 512gb nvme ssd, WD Black SN850 2TB nvme ssd
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    factory
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    factory
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    factory with ARCTIC MX-6
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    touchpad and Logitech wireless mouse
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    4 zone rgb
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    WiFi 6, 1gb ethernet
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    Chrome primary, FF-IE and Edge secondary
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 Premium
Yeah they did, from what I've been hearing it will be a little longer now.

I can always upgrade again but I'm not going to wait for them to fix something that shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
It irks me immensely when a company releases software untested and not working as intended expecting users to just accept 15% performance drops until it is fixed.
As a dev myself it I find it completely irresponsible, wee bug fine massive performance problem...not fine at all.


Some time during Windows 10, it's seemed to me that MS has decided to leave a lot of the "testing" to... us.
They've also made Windows practically free, so there is that trade off.

I kind of think of Windows as a game now, with side quests and boss monsters.
I'm not sure how I'd feel about it, if I really "needed" Windows in a mission critical way.
I wonder how businesses are going to feel about it.
 

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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Unsure about tpm 2.0 but tpm has been breached as far back as that.

What exactly do you mean by "breached"? If you're talking about slicing the top off the outer chip and using an electron microscope, that's not exactly a viable method for anyone, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get at your computer...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
What exactly do you mean by "breached"? If you're talking about slicing the top off the outer chip and using an electron microscope, that's not exactly a viable method for anyone, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get at your computer...
Broached, I presume.

The smartest people in the world sometimes come up with a word that is almost the right one.
 

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    Windows 11 22631.2861
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    PC/Desktop
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    homebuilt
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    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) Kingston DDR5 5200 (RDIMM)
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    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
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    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
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    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
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    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
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    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1600 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    Alphacool Eisbaer Pro Aurora 360, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps
  • Operating System
    windows 11 22631.2861
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
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    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
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    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
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    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8 TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
As someone that likes to run benchmarks sometimes for stress testing purposes I've put windows 11 through several over the past month or so I've had it installed.

Ryzen 9 3900x.
Slower single core and multi score results in every benchmark I can find.
Were the benches after the just-released update that says it fixes issues with the AMD L3 Cache. Just updated in the Beta branch today on Insider Program:
KB005746 Beta Preview
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G435
    CPU
    i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 Super
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3220DGF
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB WDC .M2 Nvme SSD
    4TB Samsung 870 SSD
    PSU
    750 Watt Gold
    Case
    Lian Li ATX 205
    Cooling
    Thermal-Take Water Cooled CPU
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

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