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I just installed Windows 11 (v21H2, Build 22000.194) on a local computer and looked at the new Start Menu and I cannot believe what they did. The Start Menu is totally unconfigurable.

1. It has a jumble of their apps in no particular sequence (probably the ones they want you to use first).
2. There is no way to group apps. That was the best feature of the Windows 10 Start Menu. I could set up my most used apps in a group or groups.
3. I deleted a bunch of stuff from the "Recommended" list, but then they returned. There were files that were several years old. The only way around it was to shut off "Recommended".

I suppose you could go through and rearrange everything but that is a pain. And what stops MS from setting everything back.

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... and MS seems to turn a blind eye to all of these kinds of posts...
 

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... and MS seems to turn a blind eye to all of these kinds of posts...
That is what the feedback hub is for. MS has nothing to do with this forum or any other forum unless it is thiers and even thiers, I doubt they really look at it because it is managed by mostly volunteers.
 

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I just installed Windows 11 (v21H2, Build 22000.194) on a local computer and looked at the new Start Menu and I cannot believe what they did. The Start Menu is totally unconfigurable.

1. It has a jumble of their apps in no particular sequence (probably the ones they want you to use first).
2. There is no way to group apps. That was the best feature of the Windows 10 Start Menu. I could set up my most used apps in a group or groups.
3. I deleted a bunch of stuff from the "Recommended" list, but then they returned. There were files that were several years old. The only way around it was to shut off "Recommended".

I suppose you could go through and rearrange everything but that is a pain. And what stops MS from setting everything back.

JohnD
Welcome to Windows 11 :ROFLMAO:
 

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Then Use Open Shell or even Classic Shell. They both work on 11.:thumbsup:
 

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The Start Menu is totally unconfigurable.

1. It has a jumble of their apps in no particular sequence (probably the ones they want you to use first).
Not true. You can unpin any pinned apps you don't need, click-and-drag them to put you most used ones at the top, pin your favourite apps to it, even manually add shortcuts to the All apps list so you can then pin them to Start.

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That will take a little work. Hopefully MS will not come in with an update and mess everything up as they have been known to do. The groups were a great idea. It is unfortunate that they got rid of them.

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I just installed Windows 11 (v21H2, Build 22000.194) on a local computer and looked at the new Start Menu and I cannot believe what they did. The Start Menu is totally unconfigurable.


I configured mine, with just the "Settings"...
I just wish it wasn't so FAT, aka horizontally challenged. :D


The only thing I haven't figured out how to do in Settings or registry hack, is get it back to ONE page.
I have a 30" monitor...
"Pages! Pages! I don't need no steenking pages".



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The Start Menu is totally unconfigurable.
I suppose you could go through and rearrange everything but that is a pain. And what stops MS from setting everything back.
It's very configurable, and it's not such a hard task.
And I've had mine more or less this way since day 1, it's gone through two version changes, and nothing whatsoever on the 18-icon page or in the taskbar has been "set back." And the two Start Menu\Programs folders are easy to edit, with added shortcuts and folders, and even folders inside folders, as you wish, to change the All Apps list.
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^ And those folders bring up explorer, right? No thanks.
 

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StartIsBack works the best, for now, for enabling all the classic features...
(I just can't get the default W11 Menu, WindowsBlinds theme overrides them all!)

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@Edwin

How about StartAllBack? Have you tried that or considered it? I haven't seen any real-world examples of what it can do.

(I thought the naming was cute: gets that ll in there for 11.)
 

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@Edwin

How about StartAllBack? Have you tried that or considered it? I haven't seen any real-world examples of what it can do.

(I thought the naming was cute: gets that ll in there for 11.)
Sorry, that is StartAllBack in the screenshot!
 

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^ And those folders bring up explorer, right? No thanks.
Some just drop down sub-folders right in the All Apps list, or show several apps shortcuts. But I understand your dissatisfaction with what can be done in there.

To each his own. I'm going to live with it until I get my TLB back. Maybe I'll try one of the blank-blank-Back programs, but not yet.

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Sorry, that is StartAllBack in the screenshot!
Oh, wow! Okay, you've made me much more interested than I was before tonight.
 

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Start11 is more authentic but the beta is glitchy as heck!

Left some strongly worded feedback with the boys over at Stardock..., they got a little p*ssy with me!!! :censored:
 

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This is as close as I can get with StartAllBack...

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At least the ugly tiles are gone, once you customize it, you`ll be good to go.

Pin what you use the most to the Taskbar, that`s what it`s there for.

Windows 11 wasn`t built in a day :)
 

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Start11 is more authentic but the beta is glitchy as heck!
I agree with you.
The latest version 0.90 introduced several bugs.
Version 0.55 was less buggy.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam

cyberloner

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it was build for tab in mind... not for power user now.........
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 LTSC 2019
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    CyberMania
    CPU
    RYZEN 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTES AORUS PRO AC B550
    Memory
    XPG D50 DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    SAPHIRE PULSE RX580
    Sound Card
    REALTEK HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG T50 CURVE 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    XPG D40 512GB 2TB NVME
    PSU
    CM MWE GOLD 650WATTS
    Case
    CM NR 600 MASTERBOX
    Cooling
    CM HYPER212 TURBO ARGB
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    ESET
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