Solved Microsoft starts stuffing ads in the Windows 11 Start menu


I persinally think it’s a smart move by Microsoft. They have to generate revenue somehow.
I don’t have to look at the ads, even if I had the standard Start Menu in use I still wouldn’t have to look at the ads, and If I did, they’d hardly affect me. I hold the will to ignore.

People who have stock in MSFT should be happy. I would be but I never bought any *kicks himself*

It’s a standard business model. I’d of gone in the same direction, in fact I’d of done it when Eleven was released.
As I have never personally had to pay for a Microsoft OS due to OEM or gifts received, I’d say I owe Microsoft something considering my PC has been used for business since Windows 95.

It’s a free lunch, I don’t get why people are complaining.

EDIT: If ads start popping up on the screen whilst I am trying to work, then sure, that’s more than a problem.
I have been known to uninstall a "free" app if every time I tried to use it, I got a popup when I did anything . . . save, open, close, etc.

I've also been known to help advertise a "free" app if those things were minimal by telling my friends and students about it.
 

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I have been thinking about the possibility of MS going with pop-up ads. I imagine that if they did it would be for the Home version only. Businesses that use the Pro version would be very upset if their employees were distracted from their work by pop-up ads.
Yeah, but I would think the "business" version would have a cost attached to it along with the license.
 

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I think the suggestion was intended to mean,
Enter this into the File explorer address bar
Shell:AppsFolder

File explorer is perfectly happy with that.
See Shell Commands - TenForumsTutorials [there isn't an ElevenForum equivalent yet]


But your original idea

is, in my opinion, better. Using a folder of your own allows you to have only those shortcuts that you actually want instead of being inundated with lots that you don't want.



Denis
Like this?

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Back from eating.
I get that I don’t necessarily have to feel obligated to Microsoft, Jim. I don’t know if you were witness to my oversharing posts last year about the first chapter of my life, which was ripe with violence, thievery and destruction. I took prisoners and destroyed lives.
So the second chapter in my life was born out of the necessity to not die. I have to give back, I can’t discriminate as to who otherwise there is a kink in my resolve. I just have to. 50% of the work I do now is a for a not for profit. The other 50% I charge handsomely. I can’t say; So microsoft is worth over a trillion, that gives me a pass.
Also a part of the reason I am in here, I go where I can to give what I can afford.
And I teach (as a volunteer) Windows 11 to senior citizens at our local Senior Activity Center. Lots of perks there, such as a nice well balanced lunch five days a week for only $3.00. My way of giving back.
 

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Yeah, but I would think the "business" version would have a cost attached to it along with the license.
My comment was referring to small to medium sized businesses that are using the Win 11 Pro version. Large corporations are a different story.
 

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Oh, you want All Tasks (aka 'God Mode') then. Create a shortcut on your desktop to:
That I already know, but that's not what I want. That is just one of my 'Start Menu / System work set' items, I have that already.
I want to have folders in the Start menu, that are organised as I prefer, not something pre-organised with many tools I never use!

This is an example of my start menu, some entries I have blurred out or replaced the name by an more general description:

start-menu.jpg

On the left the most used apps, on the right the program (sub)folders, from which I opened one.
Opened is the folder Programs / Accessoires.
Very much like Windows 2000, just having two columns instead of one.
Simple but efficient.

I translated all entries into English, but as I don't know the exact English names, it may be some are not correctly translated.
(I just remebered it should be 'accessories')
 

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While I dont agree that microsoft is looking to block all of these customization apps, like start menu replacement, they have been definitely pushing their services over others to a terrible degree, especially when it comes to edge. Making the default apps window harder to use as well.

See here:


But I don't see them blocking apps outright. That is where it goes to conspiracy territory. I can sorta see both sides, the problem with windows as a whole is they don't have the luxury of cleaning up old code, or removing it. They have to be backwards compatible with all this kind of stuff, so even making small changes to clean up old codebases can cause things like this to happen, meaning apps may need be rewritten or changed. It's an extremely slow improvement process to clean up windows. Moving the settings in control panel to the new settings panel is further proof of that due to the time it's taking.

I think microsoft is trying to make windows more stable, make it more of a revenue maker, and at the same time trying to clean things up code wise. In doing so though, it's going to break things and make things harder for third party apps. There has to be some balance there and it's hard to tow the line and make everyone happy.

I think it's a bunch of departments being told different things with different approaches. But I think they need to be slapped for the edge stuff and investigated into trying to force microsoft accounts. A local account and using your own programs and being able to set them as default should always be allowed and easy to do.

They should offer a paid version of windows without ads and without the telemetry and pushing of their services, and have the free version be what it currently is. Thats my take anyway.
 

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Should I feel left out? I don't get any adverts from Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) on my PCs or the laptop
 

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They should offer a paid version of windows
They do (and did).
Windows is paid software!
That they offer the Windows operating system to OEM manufacturers, does not mean you get it for free! You pay a certain amount of money that's in the price of the system (if that system is offered to end-users inclusive operating system).

In my case, where my vendor built the systems to my specs (from a list of options), the Windows 11 Pro NL cost me € 160,-, which is not a small sum if compared to the total prize of the system. But MS won't give a damn that I bought my Windows operating system and will push advertisements in my system as well as in OEM systems. They won't make any difference for that!

I don't get ant adverts from Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) on my PCs
Don't you get the advert for Windows 365 / Office 365 in your settings app?
I made it almost impossible to have shown ads by using O&O Shutup, but in the settings I still get a remark:

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Although it's not that bad, it still is an advertisement. which I don't want.
 

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    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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They do (and did).
Windows is paid software!
Yup I know that, that's why I said they should change it so that paying for it full price should be no ads, and a free version created and offer what it does now.


Should I feel left out? I don't get any adverts from Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) on my PCs or the laptop
I don't either after I did this:

 

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    800mbps down, 20 up
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Although it's not that bad, it still is an advertisement. which I don't want.

I saw that as branding - not doing any harm or causing me any issues with what is an excellent, and essentially free, OS.

If this is the biggest of your problems then you are a very lucky man, if it isn't then time to start work on the big problems :wink:
 

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I did not say it is a problem for me.
But it is an advertisement!
And there will be more to follow, much more pushy...

and essentially free,
As I explained, the Windows operating system is not free!
€ 160 (about $170) is not free.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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    Samsung S24E450F 24"
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    1920 x 1080
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    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
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    Cooler Master Silencio S400
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    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
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    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
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    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
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    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
I suggest that if you are complaining about it then it is a problem for you - as I said, I never noticed it until your brought it up and I don't consider it as advertising - certainly no more so that Google, or Apple do with their systems.
 

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    Win11
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    Dell Latitude 7530
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1265u
    Memory
    16Gb
Once again: I am not complaining!
I am just stating there is (at least) an advert in every system even if you did not notice it or do not bother that it's there.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3593
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    Build by vendor to my specs
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
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    Corsair CV650W
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    Cooler Master Silencio S400
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    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
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    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Should I feel left out? I don't get any adverts from Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) on my PCs or the laptop
The Start Menu ads we are talking about hasn't happened yet.
 

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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    PowerSpec G156
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    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
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    Logitek M185
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    Logitek K270
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
They should offer a paid version of windows without ads and without the telemetry and pushing of their services, and have the free version be what it currently is. Thats my take anyway.
Only the updates are free. If the OS was already installed on a OEM device the OEM paid for it and added the price to the device. If someone builds or has a custom device built they have to pay for the OS if they don't want it limited to what they can do to customize it. Speaking for myself, I would rather pay every so many years for new versions of Windows (for example ,Windows 11 to windows 12, Windows 12 to Windows 14) then be stuck with unwanted ads.
 

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    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I did not say it is a problem for me.
But it is an advertisement!
And there will be more to follow, much more pushy...


As I explained, the Windows operating system is not free!
€ 160 (about $170) is not free.
When is the last time you paid for Windows? I haven’t had to pay since Windows 7 and even then it was an OEM that came bundled/included in the price of a CD-ROM, AU$60 I think way back then.
Windows 8.1 was given to me as a gift by a member here back in the 8 Forum. Since then it’s been upgrades courtesy of Microsoft.
Most people get it free with their purchase of a new computer/laptiop.

In fact, I have never known anyone (personally) that has had to buy Windows. And I know a lot of people.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
When is the last time you paid for Windows? I haven’t had to pay since Windows 7 and even then it was an OEM that came bundled/included in the price of a CD-ROM, AU$60 I think way back then.
Windows 8.1 was given to me as a gift by a member here back in the 8 Forum. Since then it’s been upgrades courtesy of Microsoft.
Most people get it free with their purchase of a new computer/laptiop.

In fact, I have never known anyone (personally) that has had to buy Windows. And I know a lot of people.
The way I see it is when someone buys an OEM computer the cost of the OS was included in the price of the the computer. It wasn't free. It's like buying a new car. Just because it comes with accessories doesn't mean the dealer gave the accessories to them for free. The cost was included in the price of the car. I do agree that MS has been very generous by letting us upgrade to newer builds for free but the original OS was paid for one way or the other. If MS was giving Windows away for free, system builders wouldn't have to buy a license to have a fully activated OS.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
May I point out that you do not buy Windows from anyone, what you pay for is a licence to use the product.

The ownership of the product always remains with Microsoft.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude 7530
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1265u
    Memory
    16Gb
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