Alldocube VBook i35A Laptop - 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM, Celeron N3450 update question

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

does anyone know if this ps cill accept win11? i did not see it in the intel list but i have read some about this pc taking win11 from the win10 update page. but before i get one i would like to make sure thanks

FreeBooter · Nov 13, 2023

If you want to find if your device qualifies for the Windows 11 or not, you can use Microsoft's PC Health Check app to discover it. The app runs a test to check if your PC meets the system requirements to run Windows 11.

Berton · Nov 13, 2023

This page does not show that Celeron N3450 as supported, the N4000 is the lowest-numbered model:

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors

This specification details the Intel processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.

learn.microsoft.com

Also, press Windows key and R, type tpm.msc, see if it has the Trusted Platform Module Version 2.

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

thanks guys i do not have the pc so i can't test that out yet. but just wondering. i see lots of non supported pcs on ebay that show win11 running on them so i was curious. also i found a win11 topic where someone put win11 on an unsupported pc and they claim it runs good and gets updates. so it makes me wonder if winn11 will run good on old pcs and still get the updates even though windows says no. or are those guys blowing smoke? thanks

Berton · Nov 13, 2023

Yes, there are procedures posted on various forums about bypassing the default install of Win11 but I haven't had a need to try them. I need to keep my Win11 as default so as to support my clients when they get a new machine, have to be able to see/understand what they see. And given that sometimes Microsoft will issue updates that set things back to their defaults it's hard to say if they won't also do that to the tweaked/tricked installs.

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

thanks i wonder if that bypassing will affect the OS also. i started asking about the alldocube pc and it seems to be not updateable. today for S&G i downloaded that win11 iso type file and tried to install it on one of my hp probooks and it would not install it said the pd did not meet the minimum requirements. so that could be a good thing. thanks

Berton · Nov 13, 2023

I also have on hand 5 Notebooks running Win10 that don't meet specs but since they still have until Oct. 14, 2025 before support is ended I won't throw them out. I was given 3 of them, 2 x 15" and 1 x 17", and bought 2 Refurbs in 2019 when going through chemo just for portability, a 12" and a 13" that my wife now uses. Both refurbs came with a 1-year warranty, cost was $159 and $149 USD.

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

thanks berton. i have 5 or maybe 6 probook 6470b and that range they work good and are fast but like you say win10 is going away for security updates and i'm starting the search now. i hate to spend tons of money for emails and a few ebay items.

Berton · Nov 13, 2023

corvairbob said:
thanks berton. i have 5 or maybe 6 probook 6470b and that range they work good and are fast but like you say win10 is going away for security updates and i'm starting the search now. i hate to spend tons of money for emails and a few ebay items.

One of my freebies is an HP ProBook 6560b, works good.

spapakons · Nov 13, 2023

TPM 2.0, 8th generation Intel etc are not strictly required to run Windows 11. This means if you bypass compatibility check to upgrade or clean install Windows 11 it will behave exactly like Windows 10 64-bit. It will accept the same drivers, probably some of these for Windows 7 or 8 and the same applications. Read the respective thread for more details.

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

spapakons said:
TPM 2.0, 8th generation Intel etc are not strictly required to run Windows 11. This means if you bypass compatibility check to upgrade or clean install Windows 11 it will behave exactly like Windows 10 64-bit. It will accept the same drivers, probably some of these for Windows 7 or 8 and the same applications. Read the respective thread for more details.

thanks i tried the win11 media creation tool in the usb and clicked the setup file on the thumb drive and it did some stuff and then said the pc was not ready for win11. so the media tool seems to know. i did have rufus but that was for the win10 iso for installing new drives on pcs. if you have a different way, please send that link along and i will give it a try. it will be interesting to see if that 6470b probook will run win11 and still get security updates. thanks

spapakons · Nov 13, 2023

According to the respective thread, you must disconnect from the internet. Then mount the ISO and run Setup. It will create a hidden folder with the setup files. You must replace the hidden file C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll with an empty fake before proceeding with the upgrade. Keep disconnected from the internet until the upgrade is complete. To create the fake file right-click on the desktop and create a new text file. Rename this to appraiserres.dll without the extension .txt at the end. Delete the original file and copy-paste the fake in the folder.

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

ok i will give that a try this week tomorrow i go for carpal tunnel surgery so it may take a few days. thanks like this the .dll will not show but i renamed the folder C:\$Windows.~BT\sources((((\appraiserres.dll)))) no slash or .txt just what is in the ( )

corvairbob · Nov 13, 2023

spapakons said:
According to the respective thread, you must disconnect from the internet. Then mount the ISO and run Setup. It will create a hidden folder with the setup files. You must replace the hidden file C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll with an empty fake before proceeding with the upgrade. Keep disconnected from the internet until the upgrade is complete. To create the fake file right-click on the desktop and create a new text file. Rename this to appraiserres.dll without the extension .txt at the end. Delete the original file and copy-paste the fake in the folder

well i tried that process tonight and i put the media creation stick in the pc and booted it and started windows so i went to the thumb and clicked setup all it did was try to run it again and the told me the same thing that the pc failed the requirements. i may have the wrong creation tool for this. there is no file on the stick or the pc with that file name you suggested.
C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll i do not see this file any place on the pc or the thumb stick files in that media tool the main folders on the stick has boot-efi-sources-support-autorun.inf-bootmgr-bootmgr.efi-then the setup application

so i will see if i can find a different was to do this. thanks

FreeBooter · Nov 13, 2023

In this video, i will upgrade Windows 10 to Windows 11 on unsupported computer hardware. Although Windows 11 has a higher system requirement, you may still be able to perform an upgrade on an unsupported computer. The Windows setup has an “appraiser” service that checks to see if your computer meets the minimum hardware requirements for that version. It’s possible to replace the appraiserres.dll file in the Windows 11 setup with one from an older build of Windows 10. In order to replace the Windows 11 DLL with one from Windows 10, you’ll actually need the setup files for Windows 10.

spapakons · Nov 14, 2023

corvairbob said:
ok i will give that a try this week tomorrow i go for carpal tunnel surgery so it may take a few days. thanks like this the .dll will not show but i renamed the folder C:\$Windows.~BT\sources((((\appraiserres.dll)))) no slash or .txt just what is in the ( )

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Some file extensions are hidden by default. Change settings so that you see all extensions and make sure you rename the file to appraiserres.dll If it is appraiserres.dll.txt as in your photo it won't work

corvairbob · Nov 14, 2023

i did change the name to appraiserres.dll i could not snip the last part here is a photo of the file on my desktop. also i have my pc set to see hidden files. ok i found this file appraiserres.dll in the sources folder. i deleted that one that had over 2,000 mb and copied the one that i renamed on the desktop but then name is appraiserres.dll but it show as a txt if that is wrong let me know see photos

corvairbob · Nov 14, 2023

FreeBooter said:
In this video, i will upgrade Windows 10 to Windows 11 on unsupported computer hardware. Although Windows 11 has a higher system requirement, you may still be able to perform an upgrade on an unsupported computer. The Windows setup has an “appraiser” service that checks to see if your computer meets the minimum hardware requirements for that version. It’s possible to replace the appraiserres.dll file in the Windows 11 setup with one from an older build of Windows 10. In order to replace the Windows 11 DLL with one from Windows 10, you’ll actually need the setup files for Windows 10.

thanks but on my media creation tool i do not get installing win11. also i made a file on my desktop and named it apprasierres.dll and saved it bit when i look at the sources folder on the creation tool stick it says in the file type text document it did not show like your file. i will give it a try and if it fails i will see if i can get the file to look like your file name thanks.

corvairbob · Nov 14, 2023

ok i tried it with both appraiserres.dll files and then i deleted the one that said test and it still failed. so it must be looking for that file to have some data in it. it has 175kb of something but i do not have a app to see what it is. so i must have did it wrong. i looked at the win10 iso stick and it has the same file so i;m going to do as the video and put both folders on that pc and copy both stick and then put the win10 file in place of the win11 file and then put that on the win11 stick just in case it works so i do not forget. i can always get the win11 iso back as i have in on this pc. i will let you know how that goes soon thanks

spapakons · Nov 14, 2023

In File Explorer settings there is a checkbox to hide known extensions. You must uncheck this box so you can see all extensions. In this case the new text file will turn from "New Document" to "New Document.txt". If you try to rename it you will see that only the file name "New Document" is highlighted. You have to also delete the ".txt" extension at the end and leave the new file name as "appraiserres.dll". If you have hidden the extensions you neither can see nor delete the ".txt" at the end. You will be asked for confirmation to change the file type from text to .dll and you will see that the white page icon changes to a white application window with a couple of gears inside, the default for .dll type of files.

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