Am i fully protected?

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

TheMystic said:
I think your posts on the same are focused primarily on how Norton implemented it in its own product. Not all implementations are like that.

An antivirus or internet security suite is supposed to keep the system running very efficiently, using minimal resources and blocking all types of malware.

Crypto Mining defeats the 1st purpose. I can assure you the way Norton advertises it is pretty misleading. They are fully aware that over 90% (may be much higher) of their users will simply opt-in on the assumption that this is something good for them. The fact is the costs of mining are clearly not explained properly and Norton is misusing its role as a security solution provider by misleading its own customers.

While I understand you are not interested in discussing it further, It would help if someone can explain the fundamentals that drive the intrinsic value of all these crypto currencies.

As far as I understood, there is no intrinsic value. It is pure gambling. When a currency (assuming I can call it that) is volatile enough to see 2 or even 3 digit growth because Elon Musk made a one line tweet, it explains the whole story.

Mining isn't gambling at all. Hence why it doesn't fall under gamling regulations. It's mining and like it or not, Cryptocurrency is a currency that does indeed exchange to Pounds/Dollars etc etc etc, Its here to stay, Love it or hate it.

jerrypc1 · Jan 28, 2022

bryan123 said:
So i recently installed 11 on my laptop a few weeks ago. I only have defender on it. Is that enough protection? I dont mind paying for premium protection as well as long as my laptop is fully protected.

Also does anyone know whats going on with this KB2267602 update? Its related to defender. It keeps showing up in windows update and updates and then comes back like later on.

Defender is all you need and you don't have to worry about updating it every day it updates itself

Bree · Jan 28, 2022

Devlin1888 said:
I thought they called those things the same everywhere

The term we use here in the UK is 'belt and braces' :wink:

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

Bree said:
The term we use here in the UK is 'belt and braces'

Im from the uk and haven't ever heard that. If you're referring to the UK as Engurlund then yeah i guess!

Bree · Jan 28, 2022

Devlin1888 said:
Im from the uk and haven't ever heard that....

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-belt-and-braces-approach

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

Bree said:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-belt-and-braces-approach

Oh i gathered what it meant! Thankfully the Scots can understand any UK dialect/Accent

We good here! Was just for our overseas friends haha

flashh4 · Jan 28, 2022

I'm with Bree & that's what i recommend to all my Malware clients !
Chuck

TheMystic · Jan 28, 2022

Devlin1888 said:
Mining isn't gambling at all. Hence why it doesn't fall under gamling regulations. It's mining and like it or not, Cryptocurrency is a currency that does indeed exchange to Pounds/Dollars etc etc etc, Its here to stay, Love it or hate it.

It is. Trading in anything without intrinsic value is a zero sum game, i.e. every profit you make is someone else's loss. This is not true of real currencies or anything with intrinsic value.

As of now, the underlying value of crypto currencies seems to be closely tied with what Elon Musk tweets about them. :ROFLMAO:

WXC · Jan 28, 2022

bryan123 said:
So i recently installed 11 on my laptop a few weeks ago. I only have defender on it. Is that enough protection? I dont mind paying for premium protection as well as long as my laptop is fully protected.

Another vote for Windows Security (Defender), and MalwareBytes. Personally I run the Premium version (MalwareBytes Premium), as I like the 'real time protection' it provides.

Regards.

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

TheMystic said:
It is. Trading in anything without intrinsic value is a zero sum game, i.e. every profit you make is someone else's loss. This is not true of real currencies or anything with intrinsic value.

As of now, the underlying value of crypto currencies seems to be closely tied with what Elon Musk tweets about them.

Genuinely think i lost IQ points reading that xD
If its not a currency then it'd be illegal in terms of what they're doing, Theres no gambling commission on it, It isn't a sports game.
Oh are you talking about Bitcoin? Literally one of hundreds xD
I dont mine or invest in this stuff just incase thats what ya think!
Just it is a currency...Fact. Life is profit and loss, One mans Profit is anothers loss, If thats the guidelines you're going by then its waste of time discussing further :)
FYI by gambling I meant as in officially gambling. Placing bets etc on a team. That and crypto is massively different. It's a gamble in terms of taking chance. But educate yourself on crypto trading/mining and its less so. Of course there is an element. But there's no gambling regulation control body xD

Wynona · Jan 28, 2022

cereberus said:
Good job you are not a Brit as first sentence conjures up images not suitable for this forum LOL

The only image "belt and suspenders" conjures up for me is that the user doesn't want his pants to fall down, so he uses a belt plus suspenders for insurance. I see nothing that would make the statement unsuitable.

Bree · Jan 28, 2022

Wynona said:
The only image "belt and suspenders" conjures up for me is that the user doesn't want his pants to fall down, so he uses a belt plus suspenders for insurance. I see nothing that would make the statement unsuitable.

Sir_George said:
I am aware that British translation for suspenders is braces; Not sure why that would be offensive to anyone

Here in the England the word 'suspenders' is only ever used to describe a lingere item that women use to stop their stockings falling down.

Sir_George · Jan 28, 2022

cereberus said:
Good job you are not a Brit as first sentence conjures up images not suitable for this forum LOL

After reading your post I did a quick search for the British meaning of "Belt and Suspenders" and found the following;

What does belt and braces mean in British slang?
[British] a situation in which you do something extra in order to make sure that something is safe or works properly. He described airport security as a belt and braces approach, at huge cost to industry. Easy Learning Idioms Dictionary.

I am aware that British translation for suspenders is braces; Not sure why that would be offensive to anyone.

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

Devlin1888 said:
Genuinely think i lost IQ points reading that xD
If its not a currency then it'd be illegal in terms of what they're doing, Theres no gambling commission on it, It isn't a sports game.
Oh are you talking about Bitcoin? Literally one of hundreds xD
I dont mine or invest in this stuff just incase thats what ya think!
Just it is a currency...Fact. Life is profit and loss, One mans Profit is anothers loss, If thats the guidelines you're going by then its waste of time discussing further :)

Sir_George said:
After reading your post I did a quick search for the British meaning of "Belt and Suspenders" and found the following;

What does belt and braces mean in British slang?
[British] a situation in which you do something extra in order to make sure that something is safe or works properly. He described airport security as a belt and braces approach, at huge cost to industry. Easy Learning Idioms Dictionary.

I am aware that British translation for suspenders is braces; Not sure why that would be offensive to anyone.

Wouldn't case any offence to me but gotta cater for everyone! In reality here it means a garter belt and suspender stockings

that was all.

CornishRattler · Jan 28, 2022

Sir_George said:
I am aware that British translation for suspenders is braces; Not sure why that would be offensive to anyone.

In the UK, suspenders are suspenders, braces are braces, they are 2 very different things and no translation required in English(UK) nor any offence caused.

ShamrockRig · Jan 28, 2022

CornishRattler said:
In the UK, suspenders are suspenders, braces are braces, they are 2 very different things and no translation required in English(UK) nor any offence caused.

Think it was just to cover everyone xD. People get so offended in this day and age. Can't even call someone he or she without making sure that person doesn't identify as a toaster

Wynona · Jan 28, 2022

Bree said:
Here in the England the word 'suspenders' is only ever used to describe a lingere item that women use to stop their stockings falling down.

Well, that's a garter belt in the US. And still isn't something that should be embarrassing.

Wynona · Jan 28, 2022

CornishRattler said:
In the UK, suspenders are suspenders, braces are braces, they are 2 very different things and no translation required in English(UK) nor any offence caused.

And here in the US, there's no mistaking what suspenders means. Neither is there any mistaking what a garter belt is either.

The first thing I think about when I hear brace is the brace that supports the corner post in fencing.

CornishRattler · Jan 28, 2022

Wynona said:
And here in the US, there's no mistaking what suspenders means. Neither is there any mistaking what a garter belt is either.

The first thing I think about when I hear brace is the brace that supports the corner post in fencing.

The last time I heard the word ‘brace’ it was being shouted on the aircraft I was on, the last thing I was thinking about at the time was fencing

Wynona · Jan 28, 2022

CornishRattler said:
The last time I heard the word ‘brace’ it was being shouted on the aircraft I was on, the last thing I was thinking about at the time was fencing

Yep, and then there's the back brace when you have low back pain.