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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 23H2Intel i7-7700k16 GBIntel 630 onboard
OS
Windows 11 23H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Assembled
CPU
Intel i7-7700k
Motherboard
Asrock Z270 Taichi
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel 630 onboard
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Benq 1080p
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
NVMe, SSD and HDD
Case
Cooler Master
Keyboard
Asus wireless
Mouse
Asus Wireless
Internet Speed
75 Mbps
Browser
Chrome, Edge, Arc
Antivirus
Windows Defender
The never ending pis*ing AV package is so tedious now.

Choose the one you like (e.g. performance, ease of use, pretty colours etc.), move on.

A lot of opinions about AV packagea are just based on historical prejudice.

The only point we should all agree on is that running without an AV package at all is dumb. There are always some "arrogant" users who believe they know better than hackers, and their argument is "I am careful, so I do not need a package".

These guys should learn about the Swiss Cheese Risk Model.

In simple terms, any protection system has holes, and if you have more barriers, less risk of holes lining up letting an attack through. The more barriers, the lower the risk.

The weakest barrier is always human error.

A lot of people complained about MS forcing Windows 10 to require an AV package, but there is no doubt that the number of infected pcs has dramatically fallen, compared with Windows 7 days where (mostly gamers) turned off AV packages in pursuit of performance.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ16 GB solderedIntegrated Intel Iris XE
OS
Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
ASUS Zenbook 14
CPU
I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
Motherboard
Yep, Laptop has one.
Memory
16 GB soldered
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel Iris XE
Sound Card
Realtek built in
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop OLED screen
Screen Resolution
2880x1800 touchscreen
Hard Drives
1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
PSU
Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
Case
Yep, got one
Cooling
Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
Keyboard
Built in UK keybd
Mouse
Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
Internet Speed
900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
Browser
Edge
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Avast has a boot time scan. Scans before windows loads

A Guy
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 10 Home x64INTEL Core i5-11400KINGSTON HyperX Fury Black DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB...EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit...
    OS
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    INTEL Core i5-11400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H570-PLUS
    Memory
    KINGSTON HyperX Fury Black DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz, CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 250GB 970 EVO Plus NVMe, M.2 SSD, Crucial 250GB MX500, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
    PSU
    CORSAIR RM550x 80 PLUS Gold 550W
    Case
    ANTEC P10 FLUX
    Cooling
    be quiet! Pure Rock 2, 5 x 120 mm Case Fans
    Internet Speed
    480 + Mbps Up/ 12+ Mbps Down
    Browser
    Vivaldi Snapshot
    Antivirus
    Avast

  • At a glance

    Windows 10 Home x64Intel Core i5-750Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1...MSI GeForce GT 240 N240GT-MD1G/D5 1 GB DDR5
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-750
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D
    Memory
    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600MHz CL8
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 240 N240GT-MD1G/D5 1 GB DDR5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1040
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Electronics 840 EVO 120GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
    PSU
    Antec TruePower New TP-550 550W
    Case
    Antec 300
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212+, 4 Noctua NF-P12 120mm, 1 Noctua NF-P14 FLX
    Internet Speed
    480+ Mbps Down/12+Mbps Up
    Browser
    Vivaldi Snapshot
    Antivirus
    Avast
cereberus said:
The never ending pis*ing AV package is so tedious now.

Choose the one you like (e.g. performance, ease of use, pretty colours etc.), move on.

A lot of opinions about AV packagea are just based on historical prejudice.

The only point we should all agree on is that running without an AV package at all is dumb. There are always some "arrogant" users who believe they know better than hackers, and their argument is "I am careful, so I do not need a package".

These guys should learn about the Swiss Cheese Risk Model.

In simple terms, any protection system has holes, and if you have more barriers, less risk of holes lining up letting an attack through. The more barriers, the lower the risk.

The weakest barrier is always human error.

A lot of people complained about MS forcing Windows 10 to require an AV package, but there is no doubt that the number of infected pcs has dramatically fallen, compared with Windows 7 days where (mostly gamers) turned off AV packages in pursuit of performance.
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Amen
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 CanaryAMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX32GBNVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
OS
Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
CPU
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Hard Drives
1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
cereberus said:
In simple terms, any protection system has holes, and if you have more barriers, less risk of holes lining up letting an attack through. The more barriers, the lower the risk.

The weakest barrier is always human error.
Click to expand...
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My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel Core i7-10700K16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere CE 26.1

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Canary ChannelIntel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-A
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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