Disable Windows Defender Completely.

ShamrockRig · Sep 1, 2022

jimbo45 said:
That site has so many "Entrapment links" before you get to the real file download and it doesn't work anyway.

I've found absolutely no way to stop this wretched thing appearing on clean installs of W11 on latest builds whether using local account or not. You can even at first boot see there's a problem with WD as the store isn't even shown on the taskbar which it normally is when booting a new systyem ist time.

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Update installs work OK - just clean installs whether using ISO's from UUPDUMP or the ms site.

I've given up with W11 new installs on this computer for the moment - it fails whether as a VM or a real machine, whether on real HDD's or vhdx files. None of the 10 zillion fixes on google work nor scannow or other commands to fix system files.

If this nonsense is going to happen when bog standard users finally do a mass switch -- I wouldn't like to be I.T admin !!!!

Cheers
jimbo

Entrapment links? Lol i clicked on it to see what you mean't, Took me two clicks to get what the link was for ( Not that i want it or need it but i was curious what you meant), If people cant tell the difference on what to click and what not to click on a webpage..especially nowadays then god help us xD Ps. it worked for me

Sammy888 · Oct 5, 2022

Just an update. The geniuses behind Defender Control have made a statement that they will no longer be updating the [only] working method to disable Windows Defender. The link is here.

The reason is as follows:

Microsoft does not want Defender to be turned off completely. Therefore, when defender is turned off, windows update or windows component is trying to repair Defender and as a result Defender may become corrupt. Of course a malicious program may also corrupt Defender completely. (If there is no different security software in windows, when Defender is turned off)
Microsoft is constantly taking new measures because it does not want Defender to be turned off.

Cromax · Oct 5, 2022

Sammy888 said:
Just an update. The geniuses behind Defender Control have made a statement that they will no longer be updating the [only] working method to disable Windows Defender. The link is here.

The reason is as follows:

Well then they should fix all that false positives so there is less need to disable it.. srsly wtf

ShamrockRig · Oct 5, 2022

Cromax said:
Well then they should fix all that false positives so there is less need to disable it.. srsly wtf

False positives have been a thing in computing for atleast the last 20 years maybe more, They will always be a thing im afraid.

Sammy888 · Oct 5, 2022

Cromax said:
Well then they should fix all that false positives so there is less need to disable it.. srsly wtf

Have you ran files from VirusTotal? Many vendors have issues with false positives. For me, Windows Defender (including MsMpEng.exe) doesn't need to be running 24/7 especially when I'm streaming or watching a 4 or 6K video and my PC is struggling when Defender running in the background despite temporarily disabling it in the Security Menu.

Cromax · Oct 5, 2022

ShamrockRig said:
False positives have been a thing in computing for atleast the last 20 years maybe more, They will always be a thing im afraid.

defender has just more

ShamrockRig · Oct 5, 2022

Sammy888 said:
Have you ran files from VirusTotal? Many vendors have issues with false positives. For me, Windows Defender (including MsMpEng.exe) doesn't need to be running 24/7 especially when I'm streaming or watching a 4 or 6K video and my PC is struggling when Defender running in the background despite temporarily disabling it in the Security Menu.

Side topic, You're monitor is 1440p. Why you streaming in 4k and 6k lol,Like where even streams 6k?

Stigg · Oct 5, 2022

Sammy888 said:
Have you ran files from VirusTotal? Many vendors have issues with false positives. For me, Windows Defender (including MsMpEng.exe) doesn't need to be running 24/7 especially when I'm streaming or watching a 4 or 6K video and my PC is struggling when Defender running in the background despite temporarily disabling it in the Security Menu.

MsMpEng.exe is very resource intensive on some computers. Especially older ones.
I've never worked out why it slows some computers down so much, but after manually disabling it on affected computers, the computer's performance significantly improves.

Sammy888 · Oct 6, 2022

Stigg said:
MsMpEng.exe is very resource intensive on some computers. Especially older ones.
I've never worked out why it slows some computers down so much, but after manually disabling it on affected computers, the computer's performance significantly improves.

I suggest selling your secret to disabling MsMpEng.exe because aside from Sordum's Defender Control, nothing worked for me. It always returns.

Sammy888 · Oct 6, 2022

ShamrockRig said:
Side topic, You're monitor is 1440p. Why you streaming in 4k and 6k lol,Like where even streams 6k?

Some YT videos are in 6K, although I can't remember which one I saw a while ago when connected to a big screen tv which was something like 6K (whatever p that is).

TairikuOkami · Oct 6, 2022

Sammy888 said:
nothing worked for me. It always returns.

At first disable Tamper and Real Protection in Defender, then install 3rd party AV (Adaware), update it and restart.
Disable Defender's services, restart, uninstall 3rd party AV, restart and get used to Windows whining about no AV.

imanlien2020 · Jan 5, 2023

neemobeer said:
If another endpoint protection suite is installed and it properly registers with WSC there should not be a need to disable WD.

Um, well Im using Avast premiere which of course going into windwos settings shows that Avast did take over. I also have defender disabled somewhere in settings, I also turned off EVERY single thing possible in defender settings(exploit, etc etc). I have had not only Keygens but legit software and websites being blocked or thrown into the Virus Vault..lol. So upon further reading and looking into the group policy and services section Defender is Still Running. WT@...so I want this stupid Defender to get defeated and go away forever, I dont want it ON ever.

Wolfzz · Jan 5, 2023

imanlien2020 said:
Um, well Im using Avast premiere which of course going into windwos settings shows that Avast did take over. I also have defender disabled somewhere in settings, I also turned off EVERY single thing possible in defender settings(exploit, etc etc). I have had not only Keygens but legit software and websites being blocked or thrown into the Virus Vault..lol. So upon further reading and looking into the group policy and services section Defender is Still Running. WT@...so I want this stupid Defender to get defeated and go away forever, I dont want it ON ever.

Try this he updates it quite regularly

GitHub - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover: A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11.

A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11. - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover

github.com

imanlien2020 · Jan 5, 2023

Wolfzz said:
Try this he updates it quite regularly

GitHub - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover: A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11.

A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11. - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover

github.com

Thank you very much will try tomorrow and let you know how it went. Have you used this script? And if so which specific version of windows are you running?

Lance1 · Jan 5, 2023

Wolfzz said:
Try this he updates it quite regularly

GitHub - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover: A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11.

A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11. - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover

github.com

Don't use this. I ran it a VM. Trust me. It's not worth it. Stay away from this script. IMO... It's up to you... Don't.

Lance1 · Jan 5, 2023

I must say. people will say it's just a false positive. So take your chances.

Wolfzz · Jan 5, 2023

imanlien2020 said:
Thank you very much will try tomorrow and let you know how it went. Have you used this script? And if so which specific version of windows are you running?

Lance1 said:
Don't use this. I ran it a VM. Trust me. It's not worth it. Look at my screenshot! Stay away from this script. IMO... It's up to you... Don't.

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Its fine I just run it to disable defender only as I then can re enable it at a later date.
It uses iObit in its script and it thinks its a Malicious file, Ive used it on all of my computers for a while now without any problems.
Once I run it I delete it and any iObit files left on my computers.
Again its totally up to you if you use it or not.
I'm on the latest Win11 22H2

Stigg · Sep 17, 2023

I'm not a big fan of messing around with built-in Windows components, although I have done so in the past. But if you like living on the edge, ensure you have a working image backup prior to using it.

Defender Remover is a tiny tool that enables you to turn off the Windows embedded antivirus for good. You can also turn it back on again if you happen to change your mind.

Run the tool and select your option to get started.

GitHub - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover: A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11.

A tool which is uses to remove Windows Defender in Windows 8.x, Windows 10 (every version) and Windows 11. - ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover

github.com

Sammy888 · Sep 17, 2023

I think this thread should be locked and the script post removed. One can't disable Defender permanently unless you disable Windows update. It needs to be repeated Windows will also try to repair itself in the background as often this may corrupt Defender beyond repair and the only solution is to restore a previous working image from backup. A system restore has virtually no chance of success.

jimbo45 · Sep 17, 2023

Sammy888 said:
I think this thread should be locked and the script post removed. One can't disable Defender permanently unless you disable Windows update. It needs to be repeated Windows will also try to repair itself in the background as often this may corrupt Defender beyond repair and the only solution is to restore a previous working image from backup. A system restore has virtually no chance of success.

I think I agree with you -- I messed around with that (not really sure why it's worth even thinking of removing WD - it works better than anything else out there for domestic machines currently) - but it broke windows so quickly you could hear the smashing panes of glass everywhere.

Cheers
jimbo