Disk cleanup -- Ms why Hide it


Thi is on Dev channel. Clicking on 'storage usage' takes you to system storage usage then click on temporary files.

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Hi folks
What was wrong with the old way in "Properties" ->Disk cleanup to get rid of windows.old file -- now you have to run a separate app (type on the windows icon Disk cleanup) to get the familiar panel. I'm on the latest W11 rs_preview release 22543

This is just bonkers -- what's the point of having "Disk properties" if you have to hunt all over the shop to get at various bits of disk management.

Cheers
jimbo
Just another way to keep us from customizing our systems to the way we work.
 

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I like to view it as a human-assisted OS a la Darwin.

The humans in MS make evolutionary changes to the OS and the human in me makes evolutionary changes to the way I use the OS.
 

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I like to view it as a human-assisted OS a la Darwin.

The humans in MS make evolutionary changes to the OS and the human in me makes evolutionary changes to the way I use the OS.
Be careful for what you wish for !!

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This is on Dev channel. Clicking on 'storage usage' takes you to system storage usage then click on temporary files.

View attachment 21812
That's it.
Clicking on Temporary Files takes you to what you normally see with Disk Cleanup, including Previous Version of Windows (Windows.old folder), if you haven't already deleted it. I don't think that any functionality has been lost. It's just in a different location and to me, it's presented in a much nicer way.

Mostly Windows 11 has been a backward step in functionality for me. I still prefer Windows 10 by a long margin, and all my other computers are going to stay with Windows 10 for the immediate future. There are so many changes in Windows 11 that I hate, but this seems to me to be one I can live with.

By the way. I still have Disk Cleanup in Build 22000.526.
It's still in all the usual places, including if I simply search for disk cleanup from the Start Menu.
I guess it must be getting removed soon.
 
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What was wrong with the old way in "Properties" ->Disk cleanup to get rid of windows.old file -- now you have to run a separate app (type on the windows icon Disk cleanup) to get the familiar panel. I'm on the latest W11 rs_preview release 22543
Because MS want us to use 'storage sense" instead. I look for disk cleanup to be deprecated before too long. I agree. It's asinine to make users jump through hoops when it's so easy for functions that are familiar to the user to be left alone. Just another thing they've taken away.
This is on Dev channel. Clicking on 'storage usage' takes you to system storage usage then click on temporary files.

Well here's a new Windows 11 way of grouping disk management tasks that I've only just spotted.

New for 11, if you are in File Manager and have selected a disk, or are looking at its contents, then you no longer need to look at its Properties to get to Disk Clean-up or Optimise. Just click on the ... three dots menu.
Mostly Windows 11 has been a backward step in functionality for me.
If anything, that could even be said to be easier than the old way.

And yes, even in the latest Dev build it still opens Disk Clean-up for you.

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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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