Do I have to disable Smart App Control now


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I have been using two programs for many years and now suddenly after the updates I get today,I cannot run them which I use every day
DS4Windows and a plugin for foobar2000
 

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vsub said:
I have been using two programs for many years and now suddenly after the updates I get today,I cannot run them which I use every day
DS4Windows and a plugin for foobar2000
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I disabled that for similar reasons. I run some old software.
 

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Maybe putting an exception for those executables will help.
 

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FreeBooter said:
Maybe putting an exception for those executables will help.
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I don't see a way to do that
DS4Windows is in the real time scan exclude list
 

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From foobar2000 context menu, select Open file location to find out where executable file of foobar2000 is located.
 

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FreeBooter said:
From foobar2000 context menu, select Open file location to find out where executable file of foobar2000 is located.
Click to expand...
that's how ds4windows is added to the exclude list(the whole folder) and I still cannot run it
 

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vsub said:
I don't see a way to do that...
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No, you can't. Smart App Control doesn't have a whitelist option, it's all or nothing. The exclusion list only applies to Defender real time protection, it doesn't affect Smart App Control.

It may be significant that this started after an update. It would be worth checking the properties of the updated files to see if they need to be unblocked. Smart App Control would block a file that's marked as having come from another computer.

www.elevenforum.com

Unblock File Downloaded from Internet in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you different ways on how to unblock files downloaded from the Internet depending on how they were blocked in Windows 11. When you download files from the Internet, Windows 11 shows you a security warning every time you try to open it by default. Some file types are...
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    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
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Both files don't have that checkbox
Both don't have digital signatures
 

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    I've now clean installed 25H2 and used Garlin's scripts to update Secure Boot to CA 2023 and revoke the PCA 2011 certificates. It's new role is to test secure boot issues.

    Info for 2021-2026:
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

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    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR was a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (1st gen) type 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device. This has now been sold. It has been replaced by my System Eight.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, 1920x1080 touchscreen, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine. As its new home has an existing digital licence for Pro I've been able to upgrade the migrated OS from Home to Pro.

    My SYSTEM EIGHT is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (5th gen) type 20LN, Celeron N4120, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, a supported device for Windows 11. Currently running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds as native boot vhdx.
@vsub SAC can now be turned on and off without a clean install. You may want to turn SAC off, run the blocked app(s), and turn SAC back on after a while. I've found that turning SAC off and running the previously blocked app, then turning SAC back on the app is no longer blocked. I've found this to be true for unsigned apps as well.

I've also submitted blocked apps to the Feedback Hub and found that the app will be functional after some time has passed.

Please note that optional diagnostic data needs to be turned On for SAC to work.
 
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Bree said:
No, you can't. Smart App Control doesn't have a whitelist option, it's all or nothing. The exclusion list only applies to Defender real time protection, it doesn't affect Smart App Control.

It may be significant that this started after an update. It would be worth checking the properties of the updated files to see if they need to be unblocked. Smart App Control would block a file that's marked as having come from another computer.

www.elevenforum.com

Unblock File Downloaded from Internet in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you different ways on how to unblock files downloaded from the Internet depending on how they were blocked in Windows 11. When you download files from the Internet, Windows 11 shows you a security warning every time you try to open it by default. Some file types are...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
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it starts to look like MS is going MS-eco-system-only and plan on block all third party app they cant control.
I think they are jealous of Apple. 😅
 

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