Does a SSD case that holds NVME drive to a SATA 3 port exist?


Do you all think the NVMI drive would work with the amazon NVMI to PCIE card in this ASUS board?
 

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    ssd WD 500 gb
I think that is going the opposite direction as intended. It sounded like poster wanted to buy an NVMe drive with hopes of using it in later future builds to get the speed advantage out of the NVMe, but he wants/needs to either plug it into a SATA port on the mobo or get a PCI-E Card that will accept the Nvme drive at the present time.
Exactly so. SATA is becoming history, an NVME is better deal.
 

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    old AMD B95
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    ASUS
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    8gb
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    ssd WD 500 gb
Do you all think the NVMI drive would work with the amazon NVMI to PCIE card in this ASUS board?
NVMI or NVMe ? Adapters to PCIe are just straight wire to wire, contact to contact connection so they would work in any PCIe x4, x8 and x16 slot. It's just that with some older boards you can't boot from them. I have two such adapters, one with only one NVMe and another one with 2.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
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    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
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    Seasonic 750W
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    windows 11
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    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
NVMI or NVMe ? Adapters to PCIe are just straight wire to wire, contact to contact connection so they would work in any PCIe x4, x8 and x16 slot. It's just that with some older boards you can't boot from them. I have two such adapters, one with only one NVMe and another one with 2.
NVME, and I don't care about booting. Just that it works as a drive
 

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    windows 11
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    old AMD B95
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    ASUS
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    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb

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    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
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    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
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    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
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    Seasonic 750W
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    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
That's a seriously old motherboard. (Most recent firmware from 2012.) I see that it has a PCI-E X16 slot for a graphics card, two PCI-E X1 slots. Plus a mostly useless PCI slot.

I suggest that you simply buy a nice 2.5" SATA SSD, and be done with it. Running an X4 NVME M.2 drive on an X1 slot via an adapter may work, but it'd be a sin. ;-)
 

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    Windows 11 22631.2861
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    Amd Threadripper 7970X
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    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
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    128GB (4 X 32) Kingston DDR5 5200 (RDIMM)
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    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
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    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
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    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
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    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
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    eVGA SuperNOVA 1600 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
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    Logitech K120 (wired)
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    1200 Mbps
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    Intel I9-13900K
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    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
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    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
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    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
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    built in Realtek
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    Asus PA329C
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    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
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    WDC SN850 1TB
    8 TB Seagate Ironwolf
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    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
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    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
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    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
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    Logitech K120 (wired)
That's a seriously old motherboard. (Most recent firmware from 2012.) I see that it has a PCI-E X16 slot for a graphics card, two PCI-E X1 slots. Plus a mostly useless PCI slot.

I suggest that you simply buy a nice 2.5" SATA SSD, and be done with it. Running an X4 NVME M.2 drive on an X1 slot via an adapter may work, but it'd be a sin. ;-)
Even PCIe x16 slot on that MB is most probably just v1.0 or 2.0 which would make NVMe even slower, not much faster than SATA3. Modern PCIe is already up to v5.0, each version doubles the speed of previous one. v6.0 and v7.0 are already defined.

  • Version 1.x: 2.5 GT/s
    • x1: 250 MB/s
    • x16: 4 GB/s
  • Version 2.x:5 GT/s
    • x1: 500 MB/s
    • x16: 8 GB/s
  • Version 3.x:8 GT/s
    • x1: 985 MB/s
    • x16: 15.75 GB/s
  • Version 4.0:16 GT/s
    • x1: 1.97 GB/s
    • x16: 31.5 GB/s
  • Version 5.0: 32 GT/s
    • x1: 3.94 GB/s
    • x16: 63 GB/s
  • Version 6.0:64 GT/s
    • x1: 7.56 GB/s
    • x16: 121 GB/s
  • Version 7.0:128 GT/s
    • x1: 15.13 GB/s
    • x16: 242 GB/s
 

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  • OS
    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
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    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
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    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
Not much you can do with such an old motherboard and the suggestion to use instead a SATA SSD is by far the best, noticably faster than a mechanical drive, really good for the OS. And SATA SSD's are really cheap nowdays.

Maybe Count Mike could help decipher mine, I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II.
The spec shows
2 pcie16 slots and 3 pcie 1 slots. Straightforward enough, but:
PCIE GEN = gen3 (pci_E1) and gen2 (pci_E4) ???
 

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    Athlon 3000G
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    Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
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    16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
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    onboard cpu
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    onboard
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    AOC 27
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    2560-1440
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    WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
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    500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
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    Fractal Design Define R2
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    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
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    Ryzen 7 5700G
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    MSI B450 tomahawk max II
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    4 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
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    onboard cpu
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    motherboard
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    LG 21.5" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    WD 1Tb Black M2 SN850X on Asus hyper M2 X16 max V2 card
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    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
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    Coolermaster Silencio 650
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    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
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    135/20
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    edge/Firefox
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    WD plus Malwarebytes free
Not much you can do with such an old motherboard and the suggestion to use instead a SATA SSD is by far the best, noticably faster than a mechanical drive, really good for the OS. And SATA SSD's are really cheap nowdays.

Maybe Count Mike could help decipher mine, I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II.
The spec shows
2 pcie16 slots and 3 pcie 1 slots. Straightforward enough, but:
PCIE GEN = gen3 (pci_E1) and gen2 (pci_E4) ???
That's just what you have. main PCIe x16 slot is v3.0 and shares lines with M.2 also up to v3.0
Second PCIe x16 slot is v2.0 and supports only x4 (4 OCIe lines) but if you have anything installed in PCIe x1 slot it has only 2 PCIe lines. Since NVME drives start with. v3.0 it would run at half speed if used in an adapter there. That would still be 3 times faster than SATA SSD.
If somebody is interested I can show you my results of fast NVMe SSDs in all of those cases.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
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    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
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    20/19 mbps
Thanks, Mike that explains it, not that it would change my hardware at all, since I probably only use 5% of the pc's potential.
I have a WD M2 850X nvme sitting in an Asus board in the v3.0 X16 slot and it does run faster than in the solitary M2 slot. I would not know the difference except for test figures, though.
 

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    Athlon 3000G
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    Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
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    16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
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    onboard cpu
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    onboard
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    AOC 27
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    2560-1440
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    WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
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    500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
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    Fractal Design Define R2
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    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
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    Firefox and edge
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    MSI B450 tomahawk max II
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    LG 21.5" IPS
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    WD 1Tb Black M2 SN850X on Asus hyper M2 X16 max V2 card
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    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
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    Coolermaster Silencio 650
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    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
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Even PCIe x16 slot on that MB is most probably just v1.0 or 2.0 which would make NVMe even slower, not much faster than SATA3. Modern PCIe is already up to v5.0, each version doubles the speed of previous one. v6.0 and v7.0 are already defined.

  • Version 1.x: 2.5 GT/s
    • x1: 250 MB/s
    • x16: 4 GB/s
  • Version 2.x:5 GT/s
    • x1: 500 MB/s
    • x16: 8 GB/s
  • Version 3.x:8 GT/s
    • x1: 985 MB/s
    • x16: 15.75 GB/s
  • Version 4.0:16 GT/s
    • x1: 1.97 GB/s
    • x16: 31.5 GB/s
  • Version 5.0: 32 GT/s
    • x1: 3.94 GB/s
    • x16: 63 GB/s
  • Version 6.0:64 GT/s
    • x1: 7.56 GB/s
    • x16: 121 GB/s
  • Version 7.0:128 GT/s
    • x1: 15.13 GB/s
    • x16: 242 GB/s
It is PCI version 2
 

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    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Thanks, Mike that explains it, not that it would change my hardware at all, since I probably only use 5% of the pc's potential.
Only main disk with OS and programs is important but even then difference between SATA SSD and fastest NVME is not all that visible in most cases.
 

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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
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    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
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    Seasonic 750W
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    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
That's a seriously old motherboard. (Most recent firmware from 2012.) I see that it has a PCI-E X16 slot for a graphics card, two PCI-E X1 slots. Plus a mostly useless PCI slot.

I suggest that you simply buy a nice 2.5" SATA SSD, and be done with it. Running an X4 NVME M.2 drive on an X1 slot via an adapter may work, but it'd be a sin. ;-)
The PCI slot I use with a tuner card and it runs WMC perfect. My Asus PS 110 Cinema using a vista 64 bit driver.
And it also has a FM tuner.

It is so old, win 11 does not detect the card, but Asus has the driver on their site. It is all 1080p TV and DD 5.1 sound
 

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    windows 11
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    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Thanks, Mike that explains it, not that it would change my hardware at all, since I probably only use 5% of the pc's potential.
Only main disk with OS and programs is important but even then difference between SATA SSD and fastest NVME is not allthat visible
It is PCI version 2
 

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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
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    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
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    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
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    3 x 27"
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    1080p
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    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
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    20/19 mbps
Only main disk with OS and programs is important but even then difference between SATA SSD and fastest NVME is not all that visible in most cases.
Correct, maybe a faster bootup.
 

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  • OS
    windows 11
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    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Well so far the old ASUS board does win 11 perfect and I have a SSD WD Blue 500gb in it so itis quite snappy.
Has Phenom II x4 955 cpu

Kids use it to play games too. I have no upgrade plans as I dont see the point yet as it is not broke.
It is hooked to a Sharp 37" HDTV
I also have couple nice laptops and one is a Dell 7530 with a p2000 video card and a touch screen. I actually have 6 win 11 pro PC now.

I was thinking of changing out a 1 TB SATA spinner drive for an NVME as an experiment. We put an xbox games Asphalt 9: Legends on the PC, which is a demanding game installed to E: which is a spinner and it takes couple minutes to load the game, which I expected due to it being a spinner disk drive. But once loaded it plays perfect. There is a GT640 video card in it.
 

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    windows 11
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    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Only main disk with OS and programs is important but even then difference between SATA SSD and fastest NVME is not allthat visible
Here are some of speeds I was getting.
Correct, maybe a faster bootup.
That's least affected, maybe a second or two, main difference is in opening large programs/games and programs that work with large cached data, like graphics programs like Adobe Paint shop which writes to and reads from disk a lot. Most of benefit from fast storage is that faster it is, less load on whole system while reading or writing. That's only visible in extreme cases like with slow2.5" HDDs and slower processors. My older HP laptop with dual core and such HDD used to practically stop doing everything while reading or writing to disk. it came alive with addition of SATA 2.5" SSD.
This is speed of relatively fast 3.5" WD Black 7200 Rpm HDD, 2.5" HDD would be less than half that speed
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That's already large difference,faster you go from that, less visible difference there is.
Her's my latest NVME

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    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
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    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
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    Custom Raidmax
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pic from new egg of it fit on a mb
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    ASUS
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    8gb
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    ssd WD 500 gb

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