Solved Finding the right laptop


Hazel123 said:
Oh and the other thing. Static and a kind of buzzing feel from the bottom metal part of the laptop. Feels really weird.
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You can get rid of that. The "buzzing" is the cooling system of the laptop. It is really important for the performance of the laptop.
 

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Hazel123 said:
Core Temp
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To be fair, Those temps arent bad id say for idle considering its a laptop, 60 degrees also isn't that hot for a laptop i dont think either, Put it into retrospect, My 10700k under 100% can easily touch the 80's Albeit it doesnt sit on my lap
 

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Hazel123 said:
Looks good. Does it get very hot? I'm thinking of getting another HP Pavilion DM4 for £100. Might go a year or two. Nothing wrong with the one I have and works really well - except the screen is hanging off by the hinges.
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If you are just typing, it shouldn't get too hot. If you are playing games or watching videos, that's when things start to heat up and it's just normal.
If you are planning to get HP Pav DM4, forget about Windows 11 then.
 

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Devlin1888 said:
To be fair, Those temps arent bad id say for idle considering its a laptop, 60 degrees also isn't that hot for a laptop i dont think either, Put it into retrospect, My 10700k under 100% can easily touch the 80's Albeit it doesnt sit on my lap
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Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot. As I mentioned earlier, I've used laptops that have got up to 90 degrees but don't get so hot on the outside. Maybe because they had a plastic base rather than metal.
 

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Hazel123 said:
Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot.
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Yeah that sucks D: Hope you get it sorted without too much more drama!
 

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badrobot said:
If you are just typing, it shouldn't get too hot. If you are playing games or watching videos, that's when things start to heat up and it's just normal.
If you are planning to get HP Pav DM4, forget about Windows 11 then.
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Thanks.
 

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Hazel123 said:
Core Temp
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Hi,
One bad thing about coretemp is although it shows max temperature reading
It does not show max frequency so max temp is hard to say if it's good or bad.

This is why hwinfo64 comes in handier
Reminder check sensors only on the popup message and okay on the second popup.
 

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Do you have stores in the UK where you can try each of the laptops on display for keyboard feel, screen display, heat, etc.? I chose the two computers you see below by looking at and touching the display models first.
 

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Hazel123 said:
Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot. As I mentioned earlier, I've used laptops that have got up to 90 degrees but don't get so hot on the outside. Maybe because they had a plastic base rather than metal.
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Metal is better for heat dissipation. I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back big time.
 

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    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
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    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
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badrobot said:
Metal is better for heat dissipation. I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back b
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My two computers are listed under the "laptop" category, but I certainly don't try to use them on my lap. I bought them for portability. I can easily take them with me on my travels.
 

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    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
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TraderGary said:
My two computers are listed under the "laptop" category, but I certainly don't try to use them on my lap. I bought them for portability. I can easily take them with me on my travels.
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They should change it from laptop to lugtop. People lug these computers everywhere.
 

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    MSI PRO B850-P Wifi
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    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
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    EVGA 750 Watts 80+ Gold
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    Deepcool Genome II
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    Thermalright Burst Assassin 120
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    FTTH 3Gbps
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    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    i7-4790K
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    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
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    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
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    MSI R9 290
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    LG Ultrawide 34"
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    3440x1440
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    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
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    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
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    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
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    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
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badrobot said:
I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back big time.
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I do it all the time - sitting back in a nice comfy armchair, back well supported and the laptop on my knees. Keyboard/touchpad is comfortable arms length and screen is only just below eye-level.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
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    150 Mbps
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    Defender
    Other Info
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    I've now clean installed 25H2 and used Garlin's scripts to update Secure Boot to CA 2023 and revoke the PCA 2011 certificates. It's new role is to test secure boot issues.

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Dell Latitude E4310
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    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
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    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
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    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
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    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
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    Firefox, Edge
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    Defender
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    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR was a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (1st gen) type 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device. This has now been sold. It has been replaced by my System Eight.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, 1920x1080 touchscreen, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine. As its new home has an existing digital licence for Pro I've been able to upgrade the migrated OS from Home to Pro.

    My SYSTEM EIGHT is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (5th gen) type 20LN, Celeron N4120, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, a supported device for Windows 11. Currently running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds as native boot vhdx.
badrobot said:
They should change it from laptop to lugtop. People lug these computers everywhere.
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My first portable computer was the original "Luggable". I had a 1983 portable Compaq. It had a handle and weighed 28 pounds!
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    NPU delivering 67 TOPS
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
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    Dell Support Assist
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    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
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    Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NPU delivering 45 TOPS
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    32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/s
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    Integrated Adreno GPU
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    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
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    13.8″ PixelSense Flow touchscreen 120 Hz 600 NIT
    Screen Resolution
    2304 × 1536 (201 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
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    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
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    Internet Speed
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I know next to no one will agree with me but I've always felt laptops have too many compromises. I like a mouse, a big keyboard (that costs pennies to replace), a nice big screen.

If you agree that tablets have too many compromises compared to laptops -- now you know where I'm coming from.
 

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The Pool Man said:
I know next to no one will agree with me but I've always felt laptops have too many compromises. I like a mouse, a big keyboard (that costs pennies to replace), a nice big screen.

If you agree that tablets have too many compromises compared to laptops -- now you know where I'm coming from.
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I can't take being tied down to one single place with a desktop system. I need mobility. I also need power. My System One below is more powerful than any desktop I ever owned. And it has two screens!
 

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    Windows 11 ProIntel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/sIntel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
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    Windows Security (Defender)
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    NPU delivering 67 TOPS
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft Sysinternals Suite
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProSnapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NP...32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/sIntegrated Adreno GPU
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NPU delivering 45 TOPS
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/s
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Adreno GPU
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.8″ PixelSense Flow touchscreen 120 Hz 600 NIT
    Screen Resolution
    2304 × 1536 (201 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio 2026
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    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Microsoft Sysinternals
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
Bree said:
I do it all the time - sitting back in a nice comfy armchair, back well supported and the laptop on my knees. Keyboard/touchpad is comfortable arms length and screen is only just below eye-level.
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Exactly :). And if you semi lie on the sofa with your knees up then the screen is the right height. I personally get more discomfort sitting at a desk.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
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    Windows 11 Home 25H2
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    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

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    Windows 11 Home
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    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
My first experience with a portable computer was back in the 70's and it took six of us to move it
But back on topic ...

I have been using my Dell XPS 17 for around 5 hours today - and have been updating a selection of large Image processing software just took the external temp on the alloy base (using an IR measuring device) and it was sat at 91.5 F (33C) so was comfortably warm but not dangerously so

Just checked and the max processor temp is 44C, [111F]
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [Win11 PRO HighEnd MUP-00005 DD]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS to my design
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM
    Motherboard
    *3XS*ASUS TUF B650 PLUS WIFI
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    64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]
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    3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
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    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system [plus local sound to each monitor]
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    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
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    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3XS Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe4 4 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 8TB, 10TB NAS
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    3XS Corsair RM850x 850w Fully Modular
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    FDesign Define 7 XL BK TGL Case - Black
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    3XS iCUE H150i ELITE Liquid Cool, Quiet Case fans
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    Laptop
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    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
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    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
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    Stock 17" + 32" 4K 3840 x 2160 HDR-10
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
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    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
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    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3 or MX Ergo Trackball
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I think it’s something to do with it being metal and thin. Any laptops I’ve had before have been hard plastic underneath - and while I have had some get extremely hot (eg and old vista one couldn’t handle Windows 7 without overheating) - never to the point it has been painful!

The seller wants me to claim on the warranty. The warranty does sound genuine (from John Lewis). While I only have a screen shot with the original order number, I could call John Lewis and check - hence I think the warranty is probably genuine.

However if they did send it off, that then leaves me with no laptop for ages. So I still think the seller should take it back and sort it out themselves.
 

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    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
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    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
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    Firefox
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    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
My XPS is a mix of Aluminium and Carbon Fibre for the shell and I took the temperature from the hottest part of the alloy base - where it would sit on the legs of a person using it on their lap.

The problem with an original seller warranty is it would not normally be transferable to a second owner. also if the fault was covered by the warranty, why would the seller sell it for less than they could recover from using the warranty system ?

That would be my concern
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [Win11 PRO HighEnd MUP-00005 DD]
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    PC/Desktop
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    Scan 3XS to my design
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    AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM
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    *3XS*ASUS TUF B650 PLUS WIFI
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    64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]
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    3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
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    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system [plus local sound to each monitor]
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    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3XS Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe4 4 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 8TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    3XS Corsair RM850x 850w Fully Modular
    Case
    FDesign Define 7 XL BK TGL Case - Black
    Cooling
    3XS iCUE H150i ELITE Liquid Cool, Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
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    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3S +
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    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
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    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]i7 10750H32 GBStock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17" + 32" 4K 3840 x 2160 HDR-10
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3 or MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also use an Adjustable Support for Laptop and Adjustable stand for monitor
@Hazel123

You may want to take a look through this from eBay which states their buyer protection policy ...

Return an item for a refund

If you've changed your mind about an item you bought or there's something wrong with it, you can request a return.
www.ebay.co.uk www.ebay.co.uk
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [...AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [Win11 PRO HighEnd MUP-00005 DD]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS to my design
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM
    Motherboard
    *3XS*ASUS TUF B650 PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]
    Graphics Card(s)
    3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system [plus local sound to each monitor]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3XS Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe4 4 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 8TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    3XS Corsair RM850x 850w Fully Modular
    Case
    FDesign Define 7 XL BK TGL Case - Black
    Cooling
    3XS iCUE H150i ELITE Liquid Cool, Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3S +
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security [Latest]
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Dell XPS 17 Laptop
    HP Laptop 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet [x2]
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]i7 10750H32 GBStock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17" + 32" 4K 3840 x 2160 HDR-10
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3 or MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also use an Adjustable Support for Laptop and Adjustable stand for monitor
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