Firefox with Hardware Acceleration and no freezing


DzigiBau

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I could not find an answer for possibility to use Firefox browser in Windows 11 with hardware acceleration turned ON for watching videos on internet.

If I try, there are occasional freezes of Windows 11 which can be solved by hard reset only. Turning off hardware acceleration produces high CPU usage, making it very hot, which is not acceptable situation.

I would appreciate if anyone has some fix for it or we just have to wait for Firefox to solve it in the future.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Unbranded
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
    Motherboard
    Gigabyate MA770T-UD3
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 280
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster Z
@DzigiBau

It's possible that you're pushing the limits of your hardware.
Your computer is getting a bit long in the tooth.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3527 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Agree with @Ghot. I am surprised that Windows 11 will run on a 12-year old (going of the CPU release date) device. Are you sure that the device officialy supports Windows 11?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP EliteDesk 705 G5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3400GE
    Memory
    8GB DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon Vega 11
    Hard Drives
    256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DELL Inspiron 15-3576
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8250U
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4 - 2400 SODIMM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK Hynix SC311 SATA SSD
Thank you guys, but you are both wrong. Easy to explain. My room temperature here is 24C and when I use hardware monitor tool, I see that my CPU runs at 27C in normal work and it goes to 30-33C when I push it by some software. The same situation is with GPU which runs good with 33C, but with some video or graphical stuff it goes to 37-40C, which is acceptable. That means, running Windows 11 on my configuration is possible.

I know that Windows 11 has a problem with handling AMD CPUs, because of poor programing for "First Core Priority" stuff and handling L1, L2 and L3 cache, which probably will be solved in future updates.

If we speak about Firefox 115.0.2 only, then problem is with its poor software implementation for hardware acceleration of graphical or video contents. I see that when I open Event Viewer, go to the time of hang and see message that Firefox stopped responding, because some file is missing. It does not say what file, I can guess it, since it is related to files necessary for implementation of hardware acceleration for video content. As you probably know, but I will repeat it once again, that purpose of hardware acceleration is to use GPU for handling video content and to release CPU as much as possible, which is thing we all want. If I turn off hardware acceleration in Firefox settings, there is no hangs at all, but CPU will take over implementation of video content and that makes it work on 40-45C, which for some people is acceptable, but for me it is not.

That is the reason I think Firefox needs to make some update for better implementation of hardware acceleration for both AMD and Intel CPUs and GPUs, although they had that problem in November 2022, which they said it was solved, but it was not. The problem remains.

I am not the person who will invest some money to buy new more expensive computer in order to use Windows 11 (and I think I belong to huge majority of people who share this attitude), since it can be used on older configurations, like my 10 years old laptop, which runs an old Intel Celeron, with 4 cores CPU at 1.6Ghz. And guess what? Hardware acceleration inside Firefox works properly and there are no freezes of computer because of it.

It is poor software implementation of Firefox in this particular matter as well as it is poor software implementation of Windows 11 regarding handling AMD CPUs and their multi-core environment. I asked for some fix (although I thing there is no any of possible fixes) or we need to wait for Firefox to solve it in the future updates.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Unbranded
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
    Motherboard
    Gigabyate MA770T-UD3
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 280
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster Z
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