Get ready for Windows 11 version 25H2 - Enablement Package and ISO downloads available


UPDATE 9/30:
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Windows 11 version 25H2 now available

Windows IT Pro Blog: Windows 11, version 25H2 is now available through Windows Autopatch and the Microsoft 365 admin center. It is also available for download from the Microsoft Software Download Service and Visual Studio Subscriptions. Windows 11, version 25H2 will become available via Windows...
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 Windows IT Pro Blog:

How easy is it to move to Windows 11, version 25H2? As easy as a quick restart if you're on version 24H2! Today, Windows 11, version 25H2 became available to the Windows Insider community, in advance of broader availability planned for the second half of 2025. Get ready for a reset of the 36-month support lifecycle for Enterprise and Education editions and the 24-month lifecycle for Pro, Pro Education, and Pro for Workstation editions!

As easy as restarting: The benefits of the shared servicing branch​

Over the years, you've experienced regular optimizations to the development and servicing of each version of Windows. Your installations are faster, and your experiences are more seamless. That's because combined servicing stack updates (SSUs) with latest cumulative updates (LCUs) have reduced package size by 40%.

One of the most significant improvements that make these benefits possible is the Windows shared servicing branch. This capability applies the same technology used for the monthly update process to the annual feature updates. For you, it's a familiar, fast, and reliable update experience.

This process is called "feature updates via servicing," and the updates are implemented through enablement packages (eKB). An eKB is an update package that helps update a device to the next version of Windows with a single restart that reduces downtime.

Note: Not all Windows versions share the same servicing branch. The first update that used this process was from Windows 10, version 1903 to Windows 10, version 1909. To learn more, download and read the whitepaper Windows updates and the shared servicing model.


Moving from Windows 11, version 24H2 to version 25H2​

Windows 11, version 24H2 and version 25H2 use a shared servicing branch. Here's what this means for your update experience.

New features we develop for Windows 11, version 25H2 are part of the version 24H2 branch. When the new code is complete, we include it in the monthly LCUs for Windows 11, version 24H2 in a Disabled state. Think of it as having the new feature code slowly staged on devices running version 24H2—yet another reason to stay up to date with monthly Windows updates!

The code remains disabled on the device until it receives the eKB. The eKB changes flags in the staged code from Disabled to Enabled. When you restart the device, the new features become enabled, and you're officially on Windows 11, version 25H2!

A flowchart illustrating the stages of an update from Windows 11, version 24H2 to version 25H2.

A flowchart illustrating an update from Windows 11, version 24H2 to version 25H2.

To confirm that the update took place, check your version and OS build number in Windows Settings > System > About.

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Find Windows 11 Version Number

This tutorial will show you how to find and see what the version number of the installed Windows 11 is on your PC. References: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/windows11-release-information https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/flight-hub/ Version Build...
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Windows 11, version 24H2 and version 25H2 share the same source code, with only the additional features turned on. Therefore, there should be no impact on compatibility between the two. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't test, but you can focus your tests on the new features rather than a full complement of OS, application, or device compatibilities.

Moving from earlier versions to Windows 11, version 25H2​

Since versions earlier than Windows 11, version 24H2 do not share the same servicing branch as Windows, version 25H2, the simple update via an eKB isn't possible. The normal feature update process is the best option. Use Windows Update or Windows Autopatch.

For Windows 10 devices or for new Windows 11 devices that you're deploying, first upgrade them to Windows 11, version 24H2 to make the transition to version 25H2 as simple and quick as possible when it's available.

Stay protected and productive with Windows 11, version 25H2​

Whichever way you get to Windows 11, version 25H2, devices will benefit from a fresh support lifecycle, which begins on the date of its general availability:

Windows 11 EditionLifecycle
Windows 11 Enterprise
Windows 11 Enterprise multi-session
Windows 11 Education
Windows 11 IoT Enterprise		36 months from release date
Windows 11 Pro
Windows 11 Pro Education
Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
Windows 11 Home		24 months from release date

Interested in previewing the upcoming features? Enroll in the Windows Insider Program and join the Dev Channel today.

Plan more effectively with the help of additional resources:
We wish you smooth Windows updates now and in the future!


 Source:

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Get ready for Windows 11, version 25H2 - Windows IT Pro Blog

Ready for the next feature update? Windows 11, version 25H2 is coming as an enablement package (eKB) later this year!
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 26100.xxxx 24H2 to 26200.xxxx 25H2 Enablement Package MSU Download from Microsoft:

For 64-bit Windows 11
windows11.0-kb5054156-x64_a0c1638cbcf4cf33dbe9a5bef69db374b4786974.msu (166 KB)

Download

OR

For ARM64 Windows 11
windows11.0-kb5054156-arm64_3d5c91aaeb08a87e0717f263ad4a61186746e465.msu (170 KB)

Download



 Download 64-bit Windows 11 25H2 RTM build 26200.6584 ISO links from Microsoft:

Arabic - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_ar-sa.iso
Bulgarian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_bg-bg.iso
Chinese-Simplified - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_zh-cn.iso
Chinese-Traditional - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_zh-tw.iso
Croatian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_hr-hr.iso
Czech - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_cs-cz.iso
Danish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_da-dk.iso
Dutch-Netherlands - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_nl-nl.iso
English UK - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_en-gb.iso
English US - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_en-us.iso
Estonian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_et-ee.iso
Finnish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_fi-fi.iso
French - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_fr-fr.iso
French-Canada - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_fr-ca.iso
German - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_de-de.iso
Greek - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_el-gr.iso
Hebrew - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_he-il.iso
Hungarian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_hu-hu.iso
Italian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_it-it.iso
Japanese - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_ja-jp.iso
Korean - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_ko-kr.iso
Lithuanian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_lt-lt.iso
Latvian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_lv-lv.iso
Norwegian-Bokmal - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_nb-no.iso
Polish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_pl-pl.iso
Portuguese-Brazil - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_pt-br.iso
Portuguese-Portugal - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_pt-pt.iso
Romanian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_ro-ro.iso
Russian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_ru-ru.iso
Slovak - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_sk-sk.iso
Slovenian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_sl-si.iso
Serbian-Latin - https://software-static.download.pr...refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_sr-latn-rs.iso
Spanish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_es-es.iso
Spanish-Mexico - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_es-mx.iso
Swedish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_sv-se.iso
Thai - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_th-th.iso
Turkish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_tr-tr.iso
Ukrainian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_uk-ua.iso



 Download Arm64 Windows 11 25H2 RTM build 26200.6584 ISO links from Microsoft:

Arabic - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_ar-sa.iso
Bulgarian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_bg-bg.iso
Chinese-Simplified - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_zh-cn.iso
Chinese-Traditional - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_zh-tw.iso
Croatian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_hr-hr.iso
Czech - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_cs-cz.iso
Danish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_da-dk.iso
Dutch-Netherlands - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_nl-nl.iso
English UK - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_en-gb.iso
English US - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_en-us.iso
Estonian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_et-ee.iso
Finish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_fi-fi.iso
French - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_fr-fr.iso
French-Canada - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_fr-fr.iso
German - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_de-de.iso
Greek - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_el-gr.iso
Hebrew - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_he-il.iso
Hungarian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_hu-hu.iso
Italian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_it-it.iso
Japanese - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_ja-jp.iso
Korean - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_ko-kr.iso
Lithuanian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_lt-lt.iso
Latvian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_lv-lv.iso
Norwegian-Bokmal - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_nb-no.iso
Polish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_pl-pl.iso
Portuguese-Brazil - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_pt-br.iso
Portuguese-Portugal - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_pt-pt.iso
Romanian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_ro-ro.iso
Russian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_ru-ru.iso
Slovak - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_sk-sk.iso
Slovenian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_sl-si.iso
Serbian-Latin - https://software-static.download.pr...refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_sr-latn-rs.iso
Spanish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_A64FRE_es-es.iso
Spanish-Mexico - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_es-mx.iso
Swedish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_sv-se.iso
Thai - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_th-th.iso
Turkish - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_tr-tr.iso
Ukranian - https://software-static.download.pr..._svc_refresh_CLIENT_CONSUMER_a64fre_uk-ua.iso
 
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System One System Two Other systems

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeAMD Athlon Silver 3050U8GBRadeon Graphics
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven in 'Other systems' to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel® Core™ i5-520M8GB(integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

26200.8037i5-11400F32GBGeforce GT-1030
OS
26200.8037
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
i5-11400F
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce GT-1030
Keyboard
Logitech K400
Mouse
Logitech M720
Internet Speed
600 Mb
Browser
Edge
hsehestedt said:
No. Microsoft is not even acknowledging that Windows has a problem with this so there certainly is no fix yet at this time. In addition, Windows 112 24H2 is the same exact thing as 25H2 now minus the enablement of the new features via the enablement package.
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What SSD- and how old is it?
 

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  • At a glance

    Winfows 11 Proi732 MB
    OS
    Winfows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    Optiplex
    Memory
    32 MB

  • At a glance

    Homepentium N4 MB
    Operating System
    Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    pentium N
    Memory
    4 MB
gunrunnerjohn said:
Have you actually been affected by this reported issue? I've asked around, and I think the actual problem is nothing like the hype.
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Yes my SSD I have my OS installed on, which is my XPG SX8200, is affected by this KB update. So that's why I am worried about it.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProRyzen 7 5700x3DCORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4...MSI Ventus 3x RTX 3080 OC
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
Ryzen 7 5700x3D
Motherboard
ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS WiFi
Memory
CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Ventus 3x RTX 3080 OC
Sound Card
Onboard DTS custom chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Primary: Alienware AW3425DW, Secondary: MSI MAG27QRF-QD,
Screen Resolution
Main monitor: 3440x1440@240hz, 2nd 2560x1440@165hz
Hard Drives
ADATA XPG SX8200 1TB,. 2TB Samsung 970 Evo plus, 4TB WD Black.
PSU
Corsair RM750x
Case
Phanteks Enthroo Pro Tempered glass
Cooling
Corsair 212 Evo RGB Black air cooler
Keyboard
Steeleseries Apex 7 TKL
Mouse
Logitech 502 PROTEUS SPECTRUM
Internet Speed
1.5 gigabyte fiber
Browser
Chrome
Antivirus
Bitdefender
gunrunnerjohn said:
Have you actually been affected by this reported issue? I've asked around, and I think the actual problem is nothing like the hype.
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I ran into and was able to repro at will.
 

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  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I'm waiting for 25H2 first ESD file.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

26200.8037i5-11400F32GBGeforce GT-1030
OS
26200.8037
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
i5-11400F
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce GT-1030
Keyboard
Logitech K400
Mouse
Logitech M720
Internet Speed
600 Mb
Browser
Edge
cute two said:
I'm waiting for 25H2 first ESD file.
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ESD files won't show up until the Media Creation Tool's products.cab is updated, typically a short time after the official ISO is released.

For some reason, there's always a lag. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Windows 7
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Windows 7
hsehestedt said:
I ran into and was able to repro at will.
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Since you haven't posted a single thing about this issue or the exact scenario and equipment that it happens with, it's hard to take your statement at it's face value. :think:
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737Intel Core i5 1450064GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
gunrunnerjohn said:
Since you haven't posted a single thing about this issue or the exact scenario and equipment that it happens with, it's hard to take your statement at it's face value. :think:
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Rather than just make such a bold assumption, you should have asked if I posted about this, because I did :-).

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    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
hsehestedt said:
Rather than just make such a bold assumption, you should have asked if I posted about this, because I did :-).

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Sorry, my mistake, I searched your posts from the last two weeks and didn't find this one in the list. :unsure: I have been unable to duplicate any failure of this kind on two systems using eight different SSD drives, both external and internal.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737Intel Core i5 1450064GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
gunrunnerjohn said:
Sorry, my mistake, I searched your posts from the last two weeks and didn't find this one in the list. :unsure: I have been unable to duplicate any failure of this kind on two systems using eight different SSD drives, both external and internal.
Click to expand...

I was just trying to give you some light-hearted grief :-). My post was buried in another thread. I have to admit that even I needed a few minutes to find it just now :-)
 

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    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
It would be useful to know if there is a problem. I know I can't duplicate it here.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737Intel Core i5 1450064GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
I still have to get around to taking that SSD and tossing it into another machine to see if I can recreate the issue, but it's low on my priority list right now simply because whatever the result, it won't help me in any way.
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
hsehestedt said:
I still have to get around to taking that SSD and tossing it into another machine to see if I can recreate the issue, but it's low on my priority list right now simply because whatever the result, it won't help me in any way.
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BINGO!
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737Intel Core i5 1450064GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
Bree said:
The Copilot+ requirement is an NPU capable of 40 MIPS or more. An NPU with less than that qualifies the PC as an AI PC, some AI functions are available, but not the full Copilot+ set (eg Recall).

RTM 24H2 on an AI PC can use Studio Effects, for example.

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My System Six (in Other Info) has a Core Ultra 165H with an NPU of 11 MIPS, making it an AI PC.

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While the full Copilot+ set may come to laptops, it would be rather spendy -I am not looking to go there- even in a desktop.
 

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    Winfows 11 Proi732 MB
    OS
    Winfows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    Optiplex
    Memory
    32 MB

  • At a glance

    Homepentium N4 MB
    Operating System
    Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    pentium N
    Memory
    4 MB
PGHammer25 said:
While the full Copilot+ set may come to laptops, it would be rather spendy -I am not looking to go there-
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The first Copilot+ laptops were expensive, they're getting a lot cheaper. There's little or no price premium on Copilot+ PCs now.

In addition to a >40MIPS NPU the Copilot+ spec requires a minimum of 16GB RAM.

Here in the UK we have a high street retail chain called Currys.
Their lowest price for a 16GB laptop is £380 ($511 US) but most are around £500 ($672 US).
Their lowest price Copilot+ laptop is an ACER Aspire 14 AI OLED 14" at £498.97. with several more around £500.

Their highest price 16GB laptop is £2,099 and it's not a Copilot+ PC. Their top priced Copilot+ comes in at 3rd place at £1,700.

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  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeAMD Athlon Silver 3050U8GBRadeon Graphics
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven in 'Other systems' to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel® Core™ i5-520M8GB(integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
bobkn said:
I don't know what a "Copilot PC" is.

A "Copilot +" PC requires an NPU (neural processing unit" that meets performance requirements. Whether any software uses an NPU to serious effect today, I don't know.
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For me, NPU is a marketing phrase. The idea is to make it sound "brain-like" (neural) to embellish the whole "AI" marketing spiel. I'm not impressed, but I feel that way about most of the hype surrounding the AI promotions today. It's great for the industry as the n00bs come pouring in, in droves, anxious to empty their wallets in anticipation of huge bonanzas down the road. It's not just the n00bs vying for the gold rush, but it's also the big fellas like Musk anticipating huge rewards. For investors, It's like getting in on the ground floor of Walmart shares, more or less. The greed surrounding the "AI" hype is almost tangible! I'll pass, personally, but I'm all for the tech this investment craze will spawn with applications far beyond "AI", imo.

A copilot PC is any PC with Copilot software installed--that's the definition, at least for me. The NPU is simply a different build of a processing unit designed to accelerate certain specific AI software routines and algorithms beyond what a general CPU can do, but the same software runs on non-NPU systems, from what I've gathered. The fundamental difference seems to be related and limited to the speed of executing the AI software.
 

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OS
Win11 Experimental Channel for 26H2 builds
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
a cherry-picked assembly
CPU
AMD R7 7800X3D
Motherboard
MSI x870 Tomahawk Wi-Fi, 8-layer, 2 oz copper, server PCB
Memory
GSkill 2x16GB @ 6400MT/s
Graphics Card(s)
XFX 9070 XT SWIFT tri-fan (PCIe5.0)
Sound Card
Creative Labs G8 USB External Sound device, Gaming DAC, Sound Card & Earphone AMP.. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, btw. Totally changed my opinion of external USB sound. I like!...;)
Monitor(s) Displays
Philips 42" OLED @ 4k
Screen Resolution
3840x2160
Hard Drives
*Boot: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB NVMe (PCIe4x4)
*Samsung 980 EVO NVMe 500GB (PCIe 4x4)
*Kingston SNV3S2000G 2TB NVMe (PCIe4x4)
*Samsung 960 EVO 250GB NVMe(PCIe3x2)
*8TB Toshiba x300 HDD
*ST4000DM004 S3 4TB HDD
PSU
Gigabyte 850W Gold, Rev 2
Case
Lian Li Lancool 217, white, with wood trim, very nice looking--tired of black, 5-fans standard
Cooling
Air coutesy Lian Li
Keyboard
Cherry MX 2.0S RGB
Mouse
Razer Basilisk V3 24k DPI
Internet Speed
~950Mbps down and up!
Browser
Firefox x64 DE
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
Great New system. Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw. I love the USB G8 SoundBlaster, it's quite an improvement over the G6!
I've had my current PC ("My Computer" below) for a year. It came with a Copilot Key, and I had my doubts about it. I now use the Copilot Key multiple times every day. I use it mostly for technical and software explanations and after using it for the past year, I wouldn't want to be without it. For me it really is that good.
 

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    Windows 11 ProIntel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/sIntel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    NPU delivering 67 TOPS
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft Sysinternals Suite
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProSnapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NP...32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/sIntegrated Adreno GPU
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NPU delivering 45 TOPS
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/s
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Adreno GPU
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.8″ PixelSense Flow touchscreen 120 Hz 600 NIT
    Screen Resolution
    2304 × 1536 (201 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio 2026
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Microsoft Sysinternals
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
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I have two AI machines with copilot keys including one that is a Copilot+ PC. To be honest I find no difference between using copilot searches and Google AI searches and often the info is generic or inaccurate using either method especially when it comes to computer issues, options, information, etc. Some info is useful and some info is useless. Course either is a lot better AI source then something like Musk Grok AI which is full of extreme bias and inaccurate AI sources. AI is only as good as the sources that feed it. Now some AI creators predict current AI trends will be mankind's downfall, I guess time will tell.
 
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My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 25H2Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)64GB DDR5 6400MT/sNVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    OS
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware 18 Area-51
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 25H2Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM bas...16GB LPDDR5Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Operating System
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
@FrancoDT

Copilot is different as it is footnoted for sources. For what I use Copilot for, if a given source is inaccurate, the Copilot explanation will be inaccurate. For how I use Copilot, I don't find it to be inaccurate. However, it is, as you said, "only as good as the sources ".
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/sIntel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    NPU delivering 67 TOPS
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft Sysinternals Suite
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProSnapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NP...32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/sIntegrated Adreno GPU
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NPU delivering 45 TOPS
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/s
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Adreno GPU
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.8″ PixelSense Flow touchscreen 120 Hz 600 NIT
    Screen Resolution
    2304 × 1536 (201 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft Office 365
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio 2026
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    1Password Password Manager
    Microsoft Sysinternals
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Microsoft BitLocker
    Microsoft Copilot
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