Has anyone noticed anything peculiar about the new start menu?


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    Windows 11 Pro
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    ASUS ROG Strix
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    ASUS VivoBook
Figures! It's trendy! 🤷‍♂️
And much easier than trying to fix known bugs. The first bug that comes to mind is Networking because I've been reading a few threads about users not being able to access other computers on their network. I have read post in the past were members have said there is nothing wrong with Windows networking but I disagree. IMHO, There is no reason that some users have to go through H*ll and high water to get networking setup and working.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
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    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-A
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    Logitek K270
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    Logitek M185
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
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    Windows Defender
Yesterday (3/12/26) I had a Windows update and it appears to have fixed my issues with selecting items in the Start menu. It is no longer opening random apps/programs when I make a selection. I have restarted my computer multiple times and menu selections continue to function properly for me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Galela47!
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
I did my recent updates and the switcheroo problem is still happening with my start menu icons. No telling what you will get when you open a folder in the start menu. You really have to pay attention to what you are clicking on to avoid pain, anguish, frustration, computer abuse, self abuse, physical violence and the cost af a new computer when this one is smashed...
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
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    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER 34 inch
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
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    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
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    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
I did my recent updates and the switcheroo problem is still happening with my start menu icons. No telling what you will get when you open a folder in the start menu. You really have to pay attention to what you are clicking on to avoid pain, anguish, frustration, computer abuse, self abuse, physical violence and the cost af a new computer when this one is smashed...
I knew it!!! I just knew MS had an ulterior motive for this OS!!! They must have struck a deal with OEM's to make things so dickered and confusing that users would smash their sh*t to pieces and have to buy new stuff!!! :woozy:
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Figures! It's trendy! 🤷‍♂️
I believe the new term the kids are using is vibe. You program a vibe. Seems like lately MS has getting a lot of bad ones... vibes that is.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 25H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    EVGA home brew
    CPU
    Broadwell-e 6850K 4.5ghz @1.36v
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    EVGA X99 FTW K
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    32GB Corsair LPM 3600 C16
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    EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW
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    Asus Centurion true 7.1 headset. (5 speakers in each earpeice)
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    LG C4 55"
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    4K 144hz
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    Various models of SSDs ~10TB No HDDs installed.
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    be quiet! BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum
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    Corsair 780T modified to dual 200mm intake fans
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    Corsair H110i
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    Corsair K95 Platinum
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 RGB Elite
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    50Mbs
Holy weirdness, Batman. :rolleyes:

Allowing for the continuous reality distortion effect that seems to surround me, my start menu icons are still all over the place and change places every time I open a sub menu. I am not quite getting why.

I was hoping an update might fix it, and I went through three of them with no luck. Something is definitely odd about this. I am going to do a little bit of house cleaning in my PC and see if it fixes things. I will post back if I find a solution.

BTW, I have been trying to capture a screen shot of the start menu, but I can't figure out how. I wanted to visually show what is happening. I will have to do some figuring. I'll be glad to see that back of this problem.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
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    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER 34 inch
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
The new Start menu is solid with no issues on both my System One and System Two.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 DA16260
    CPU
    Intel Series 3 Core Ultra X9 388H
    Memory
    64GB LPDDR5x 9600 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc graphics B390 Panther Lake
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    16" 3.2K Tandem OLED Infinity Edge
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000 16:10 236 PPI
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    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
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    Black Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
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    Microsoft Edge (Chromium)
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    Windows Security (Defender)
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    NPU delivering 67 TOPS
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    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
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    Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) with Hexagon NPU delivering 45 TOPS
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    32GB LPDDR5x 8448 MT/s
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    Integrated Adreno GPU
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    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
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    13.8″ PixelSense Flow touchscreen 120 Hz 600 NIT
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    2304 Ă— 1536 (201 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio
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    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
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    Black Anodized Aluminum
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    Vapor Chamber Cooling
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    None
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    942 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
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    Amazon Kindle for PC
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    Microsoft Copilot

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I have been trying to capture a screen shot of the start menu, but I can't figure out how.
Use the 'Snipping Tool' with a delay of 10 seconds - this gives you time to open up the 'Start' menu & snip what you want.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (Build 26200.8524)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Pro Max Tower T2 FCT2250
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 285 5.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Memory
    32.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated Graphics (128 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
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    Dell P2714H Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    1 x 512GB M.2 XG10d SED KIOXIA PCIe solid state drive (Internal)
    1 x 2TB Seagate ST2000DM008-2UB102 HDD (Internal)
    1 x 1TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 4TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 6TB WD Elements AE 2689 External HDD
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    500 Watts
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    Air
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    Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600
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    Microsoft USB Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
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    Firefox
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    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes Premium
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    BaseBoard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
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The only "peculiar" thing I've noticed about the new Start Menu is the fact that I still haven't seen it yet - on all 3 of my desktop PC's.

I know I can get it with a Registry file I have here but I'm curious to see exactly how long it will take if I wait for it to appear through Windows Update.

I'm in Perth, Australia by the way. Perhaps MS has forgotten about us 'down here'? :-)
 

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    Windows 11 Professional 25H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Home Built
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    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
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    Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX DDR4
    Memory
    32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
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    Onboard Sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ GL2460 (24 inch - oldie but a goodie)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 870 EVO x 2 (250GB and 500GB) plus several external Samsung SSD's.
    PSU
    Corsair HX 750
    Case
    DeepCool
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    Stock CPU cooler. 5 case fans (2 front, 2 top and 1 rear)
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    Logitech
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    Logitech
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    500/40 Fibre
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    Mozilla Firefox and Microsoft Edge
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    Windows Security
The only "peculiar" thing I've noticed about the new Start Menu is the fact that it works. :smirk:

Start menu styler.webp
 

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    11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
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    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840Ă—2160
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    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2Ă— Arc Flow Fans, 4Ă— exhaust vents, 5Ă— heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    FF
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    What's an antivirus?
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    Medion S15450
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    i5 1135G7
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    16GB DDR4
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    Intel Iris Xe
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840Ă—2160
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    2TB SSD internal
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    Li-ion
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
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    FF
Hmmmm... My start menu doesn't look anything like that. Are you sure MS has done the upgrade? Or have you set the display parameters to display only the apps you need?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER 34 inch
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
Hmmmm... My start menu doesn't look anything like that. Are you sure MS has done the upgrade? Or have you set the display parameters to display only the apps you need?
It's the new start menu but I used the Windhawk "Windows 11 Start Menu Styler" mod with my own settings to tweak it a little bit. Recently I also added the Windhawk "Start Menu Size" mod:

windhawk-start-menu-webp.167069


Start menu styler 2.webp
 
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  • OS
    11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840Ă—2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2Ă— Arc Flow Fans, 4Ă— exhaust vents, 5Ă— heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840Ă—2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
It's the new start menu but I used the Windhawk "Windows 11 Start Menu Styler" mod with my own settings to tweak it a little bit. Recently I also added the Windhawk "Start Menu Size" mod:

windhawk-start-menu-webp.167069
I was wondering if you used Windhawk. I'm using it as well but haven't tried the Start Menu Size mod. Screenshot (7).webpI've gotten use to all my apps in one display on the big menu.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 25H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware 18 Area-51
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    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
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    Windows 11 25H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840Ă—2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2Ă— Arc Flow Fans, 4Ă— exhaust vents, 5Ă— heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840Ă—2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
And much easier than trying to fix known bugs. The first bug that comes to mind is Networking because I've been reading a few threads about users not being able to access other computers on their network. I have read post in the past were members have said there is nothing wrong with Windows networking but I disagree. IMHO, There is no reason that some users have to go through H*ll and high water to get networking setup and working.
AGREED.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-14700K Raptor Lake-S Refresh 3.4GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk Max WiFi Intel LGA 1700 ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    Crucial Pro 96GB (2 x 48GB) DDR5-5600 PC5-44800
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 EPIC-X RGB Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR7
    Sound Card
    Onkyo AVR TX-NR656 5.1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3X -LG 32GN650-B Ultragear Gaming Monitor 32” QHD (2560 x 1440) Display, 165Hz Refresh Rate
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    Wat to many.
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000e Fully Modular Low-Noise Power Supply - ATX 3.1 & PCIe 5.1
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL 207 DIGITAL Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower
    Cooling
    Thermaltake TH240
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB Platinum
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender
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