HDD 100%

allan said:

Of course HD's are slower than SSD's. That doesn't mean all W11 systems should use SSD's. Personally, I do use SSD's on all of my systems - but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with using traditional drives. They'll be slower on boot and large file transfers or operations, but perfectly serviceable.

And to what rant are you referring?

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While you can use a hard drive...I haven't had a mechanical drive running an OS on a desktop or laptop in almost 15 years now. Many of us probably don't even remember that the struggle was like back then after having made the move to SSD's and even faster SSD's.

Okay. Here's my issue. It's not that I'm opposed to SSD's - as I said, I use them for my system drive on all of my systems. What I AM against is telling people on a forum that they should spend money to fix their problems. I prefer to offer advice, provide options and, when appropriate, explain that spending money might be their best (but not necessarily only) option.

Anyway, I think I've made my feelings clear and said more than enough in this thread.

allan said:

Okay. Here's my issue. It's not that I'm opposed to SSD's - as I said, I use them for my system drive on all of my systems. What I AM against is telling people on a forum that they should spend money to fix their problems. I prefer to offer advice, provide options and, when appropriate, explain that spending money might be their best (but not necessarily only) option.

Anyway, I think I've made my feelings clear and said more than enough in this thread.

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I'm going to partially agree and partially disagree.

Sometimes, suggesting the spending of a few dollars is absolutely the right answer. Let's face it, there are some things that will never ever happen without spending some money. But bear in mind that these are typically only suggestions, ultimately it is up to you whether you want to follow such suggestions or not. There is no need to be offended by this, people are only trying to help believing that your expectations could best be met by spending a few dollars.

On the flip side, I will note that I have quite a few older machines on which I am running Windows 11, including machines that are well over ten years old with spinning disks. I find that Windows 11 runs just fine on all of these systems. I've experimented and put both rotating platter drives and SSDs in these systems just for sake of comparison. They run perfectly acceptably with spinning disks, so long as you have "reasonable" expectations. Does an SSD make a difference? Yes, big time, but for what I do with those systems, rotating media is just fine. I have zero problems with anything, including updates on those systems. Would I run any of those systems as my daily driver? Heck no! I'm too used to the speed of modern SSD based systems, and for the stuff I do a lot of each day a system with rotating platter media will never ever satisfy me . But I do still use rotating media disk for mass storage - I have in excess of ten 8TB HDDs for that purpose.

allan said:

Okay. Here's my issue. It's not that I'm opposed to SSD's - as I said, I use them for my system drive on all of my systems. What I AM against is telling people on a forum that they should spend money to fix their problems. I prefer to offer advice, provide options and, when appropriate, explain that spending money might be their best (but not necessarily only) option.

Anyway, I think I've made my feelings clear and said more than enough in this thread.

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All the replies are consistent.

Use SSD for OS drive, use HDDs for storage.

There are no sensible options for significantly boosting HDD performance on OS drives Windows these days unless YOU choose to emasculate yourself.

The reason nobody is providing you advice on how to solve your hdd isssues is that there is no solution that comes even remotely close to changing out for an ssd

If you do not like advice people give you, that is your prerogative but do not patronise us who are advising you reality.

cereberus said:

All the replies are consistent.

Use SSD for OS drive, use HDDs for storage.

There are no sensible options for significantly boosting HDD performance on OS drives Windows these days unless YOU choose to emasculate yourself.

The reason nobody is providing you advice on how to solve your hdd isssues is that there is no solution that comes even remotely close to changing out for an ssd

If you do not like advice people give you, that is your prerogative but do not patronise us who are advising you reality.

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You understand I'm not the OP, right?

Hopefully we hear back from OP. I'd like to know if the registry hack made any difference. It sure has stirred the old pot though. I'm also of the thinking spinners are more for data storage nowadays rather than using them for primary OS.

allan said:

You understand I'm not the OP, right?

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oops - sorry.

I tried 11 on a mechanical disk. Not a pleasant experience. Win7 wasnt as bad on mechanicals as win11.

cereberus said:

oops - sorry.

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LOL - NP

Making the Registry change made a big difference.
Instead of sitting on 100% it dropped down as low as 2%.
When copying GBs of data or turning off indexing on C: it takes a while, But i've got a lot off changes to make to Win 11 and
i'll see if it's hitting 100% too often or for too long afterand decide then if I upgrade to SSD.

hsehestedt said:

So, 1015 ms is definitely an issue. That is essentially 1 full second for response.

You might want to run some tests on that drive. It's possible that this drive is experiencing "issues". As always, it's also a good idea to make sure you have frequent, high-quality backups.

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Looks like bad sectors!

Win Key + R enter services.msc

- scroll down the SysMain - right click and Disable it

Win Key + E - right click on C:\ Drive, select Proprieties and uncheck the following:



And yes, Windows 7 does have less background tasks - which makes it less intensive on the HDD compared to Windows 11. If you're not an avid gamer - you'd be better of with some Linux Distribution. And HDD would be more at home running Linux - than Windows. I thought you have a low end machine, but checking your System Specs (My Computer) - that's around midrange (except for the Mobo + CPU which classify higher) for 2024. So it's definitely worth investing in a NVMe SSD. The difference is HUGE (highly noticeable compared to an HDD - as if you install windows on a RAM Drive). I'm talking minutes and seconds (NVMe SSD) vs hours (Sata HDD) - especially during updates.