How is MS pushing the new Outlook app in this state?

Winuser · Apr 13, 2024

hdmi said:
Don't touch the wall Outlet unless you feel properly insulated.

Nothing like spell checker to correct spelling errors.

TraderGary · Apr 13, 2024

Winuser said:
Nothing like spell checker to correct spelling errors.

The word "insulated" was spelled correctly, but used incorrectly.

pseymour · Apr 13, 2024

Edwin said:
I can't subscribe to that!
Gosh sakes, it would take one MS Dev to open the new Outlook once and realize that it's not suitable for wide release!
Can't lay the onus completely on Insiders!

As a developer since the late 20th century, I can assure you we are the world's worst software testers.

hdmi · Apr 13, 2024

antspants · Apr 14, 2024

Project Manager lol

Winuser · Apr 14, 2024

TraderGary said:
The word "insulated" was spelled correctly, but used incorrectly.

That's one way to look at it.

TraderGary · Apr 14, 2024

Winuser said:
That's one way to look at it.

That explains a lot.

JohnnyGui · Apr 16, 2024

BruceR said:
The new Outlook email appears instantly for me.

Expanding the notification via the top-left dropdown provides options including delete.

Hold on, so the email *itself* appears immediately after clicking the notification that pops up in the right lower corner? In my case and others the Outlook app opens instantly (without the concerning email) but the email itself appears in a window several seconds later.

Which Windows build do you have?

BrianInEngland · Apr 16, 2024

JohnnyGui said:
1. Clicking a mail alert popping up in the right lower corner opens the Outlook app and only shows the Inbox, not the mail that you clicked on. And after around 8 seconds later, a separate Outlook mail window pops up showing the actual email.

2. The mail alert pop up does not contain actions like Delete, Archive or Mark as read. You'd have to open the Outlook app and then look for the mail (see 1.) to do those actions.

3. Gmail does not give mail alerts when the Outlook app is closed.

The old Mail app doesn't have these issues at all.

MS may replace an app but how can such basic issues/lacking features be missed when they're trying to push this to the public?

Is anyone else having these issues with the new Outlook app or is it just me?

Similar issues here, it's annoying

hdmi · Apr 16, 2024

Send an email to Jehovah's Witnesses IMO. Politely ask them to bring the light. Finally, pray that they can still get the email message open...

andrew129260 · Apr 16, 2024

Maybe it's me being "young", but I don't understand why you would use an email program vs just having the email in the browser that for me never has any issues whatsoever.

Even at work I just use the webmail

jvickers · Apr 16, 2024

andrew129260 said:
Maybe it's me being "young", but I don't understand why you would use an email program vs just having the email in the browser that for me never has any issues whatsoever.

Even at work I just use the webmail

One reason to use a email program is that you can have multiple email accounts in it. For instance, I have four. I also feel I have more control over things in the email program. I'm not sure there's a Zoom plugin for the web version of Outlook, either. There is for the program Outlook, and I frequently use it. It's simpler than using the Zoom app to schedule meetings.

Or, I could just be old!

andrew129260 · Apr 16, 2024

jvickers said:
One reason to use a email program is that you can have multiple email accounts in it. For instance, I have four. I also feel I have more control over things in the email program. I'm not sure there's a Zoom plugin for the web version of Outlook, either. There is for the program Outlook, and I frequently use it. It's simpler than using the Zoom app to schedule meetings.

Or, I could just be old!

I can do that with tabs in the browser tho ha. I pin them so they are tiny permanent icons/tabs in the top left. idk I just never saw the point of a dedicated email program. And my work uses teams, which I hate, so anything to avoid using that program and its addons I will treasure forever.

jvickers · Apr 16, 2024

andrew129260 said:
I can do that with tabs in the browser tho ha. I pin them so they are tiny permanent icons/tabs in the top left. idk I just never saw the point of a dedicated email program. And my work uses teams, which I hate, so anything to avoid using that program and its addons I will treasure forever.

Oh, I'm not sure if the browser mail app will do this, but Outlook will provide a calendar reminder popup, which is something we old codgers need!

andrew129260 · Apr 16, 2024

jvickers said:
Oh, I'm not sure if the browser mail app will do this, but Outlook will provide a calendar reminder popup, which is something we old codgers need!

yeah I have browser notifications on for those sites. Calendar email etc.

jvickers · Apr 16, 2024

andrew129260 said:
yeah I have browser notifications on for those sites. Calendar email etc.

Okay, then the only thing I can think of is from a system resource standpoint. I use Edge, and it's a memory hog. With 9 tabs, it's using about 1,317MB of memory while Outlook is a stable 250MB. (I'm grasping at air, aren't I?

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andrew129260 · Apr 16, 2024

jvickers said:
Okay, then the only thing I can think of is from a system resource standpoint. I use Edge, and it's a memory hog. With 9 tabs, it's using about 1,317MB of memory while Outlook is a stable 250MB. (I'm grasping at air, aren't I? )

Edge is based on chrome. And yes they do use a bit more memory, but it's because each tab is sandboxed.

I am going to have the browser opened regardless, and if I turn on the memory saver feature, it will sleep unused tabs and wont consume memory if not needed.

I also have 32GB of ram on both my work and home so I never worry about ram usage. Even with my tablet pc with 12GB ram it runs just fine.

But that is a good point. A dedicated client would use less ram. So if your system has less than 12GB ram for example, like 8GB or so it could be worth it. But it also depends what you use your pc for and all that jazz.

BruceR · Apr 16, 2024

JohnnyGui said:
Hold on, so the email *itself* appears immediately after clicking the notification that pops up in the right lower corner? In my case and others the Outlook app opens instantly (without the concerning email) but the email itself appears in a window several seconds later.

Yes, instantly, and only the relevant email.

JohnnyGui said:
Which Windows build do you have?

22631.3520

Hazel123 · Apr 16, 2024

I was going to say I haven't had any issues with it at all. But I've found one. Right clicking on a photo to save it. It takes almost a minute before a save dialogue comes up.

antspants · Apr 16, 2024

Hazel123 said:
I was going to say I haven't had any issues with it at all. But I've found one. Right clicking on a photo to save it. It takes almost a minute before a save dialogue comes up.

Does the NEW Outlook make you type a filename?
I’ve always hated that. An image already has a filename, I can never work out why when clicking “Save Image” it doesn’t just do so without me having to name it.