Intel i7-7Y75 not supported?

NormAtHome · Dec 8, 2024

I have a tablet that has an Intel i7-7Y75 that I've had for maybe three years, during the first year I had it it was running Windows 10 but I got the message "This device meets the requirements for Windows 11" and I upgraded and it's been running Windows 11 now for at least two years (with no warning that "you're running Windows 11 on an unsupported device") with no problems. However I just recently got the message that the current Windows 11 version 22H2 is going to be aging out but Windows update didn't show me any new version updates and when I tried to run the PC Health Check I got a notification that "the processor is not supported by Windows 11". Is this something new because it makes no sense to me that two years ago it met the Windows 11 requirements but now suddenly is doesn't? Is there any way to get around this?

bobkn · Dec 8, 2024

The i7-7Y75 is a Gen7 Intel CPU. The only supported Gen7 CPUs I'm aware are HEDT (high end desktop) with the X suffix.

Here's the list:

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors

This specification details the Intel processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.

learn.microsoft.com

The list may be out of date, but it should cover CPUs that are more than a couple of years old.

Yes, I know that this is inconsistent with you being told in the past that it was supported. I can't explain it.

Bree · Dec 8, 2024

NormAtHome said:
I have a tablet that has an Intel i7-7Y75 that I've had for maybe three years, during the first year I had it it was running Windows 10 but I got the message "This device meets the requirements for Windows 11" and I upgraded and it's been running Windows 11 now for at least two years (with no warning that "you're running Windows 11 on an unsupported device") with no problems. However I just recently got the message that the current Windows 11 version 22H2 is going to be aging out but Windows update didn't show me any new version updates and when I tried to run the PC Health Check I got a notification that "the processor is not supported by Windows 11". Is this something new because it makes no sense to me that two years ago it met the Windows 11 requirements but now suddenly is doesn't? Is there any way to get around this?

The initial offer of Windows 11 was in error, either that or you were an Insider. I believe that at the start of W11 Insiders were allowed to install on nominally unsupported devices, as long as they were only a generation or so behind the 8th gen official minimum. That could be one explanation for your 7th gen i7 being offered 11.

I know from personal experience that unsupported devices get all the cumulative updates, same as any supported device. Even my System Two with its 1st gen i5. They won't be offered feature updates though. Fortunately the update from your current 22H2 to 23H2 is a simple enablement package. This installs just like a cumulative update, and doesn't bother to check for supported hardware. No complicated workarounds, just install it and you're up to date on a supported version of W11. You'll get all the cumulative updates and security patches until 23H2 reaches EoL in November 2025.

KB5027397 Enablement Package for Windows 11 version 23H2 Feature Update

UPDATE 7/18: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-11-2023-update-version-23h2-is-now-broadly-available-to-all.26877/#post-481661 Microsoft Support: Summary Windows 11, versions 22H2 and 23H2 share a common core operating system with an identical set of system files. Therefore, the new features...

www.elevenforum.com

glasskuter · Dec 8, 2024

You may have only had the device for 3 years but it is at least 8 years old as that cpu was discontinued in 2016. I don't understand why it upgraded from 10 to 11 through WU in the first place because according to an old list I have from 2021, that cpu did not show on the compatible list then.
Even more questionable is why you weren't offered the upgrade to 23h2. It had to have been because your hardware was not deemed compatible then.

I have misgivings advising anyone to upgrade to 24h2 if MS doesn't offer the upgrade. But you MIGHT be able to upgrade using the incompatible hardware workaround, though I wouldn't bet on it working since so many people who actually have compatible hardware are having issues getting the upgrade to apply. At your own risk, you can try it but be sure to image your system first. I would use the Rufus method.

Bypass Windows 11 System Requirements on Unsupported PC

This tutorial will show you how to bypass the Windows 11 CPU, RAM, Secure Boot, and TPM 2.0 system requirements allowing you to clean install or upgrade to Windows 11 on a unsupported PC that doesn't meet these requirements. Installing Windows 11 on a device that does not meet Windows 11...

www.elevenforum.com

Or you might consider a safer bet to be to upgrade to 23h2 that will be supported until 10/25. 24h2 is a whole new beast..

Bree · Dec 8, 2024

glasskuter said:
I have misgivings advising anyone to upgrade to 24h2 if MS doesn't offer the upgrade....

I have misgiving about advising an upgrade to 24H2 too, but not the same ones as you. It's just got too many bugs at the moment.

@NormAtHome could upgrade to 24H2, if my System Two's 1st gen i5 can run it (and it does) then the 7th gen i7-7Y75 would have no problems.

Upgrading to an (as yet) not entirely bug free 24H2 would require workarounds, the enablement package upgrade to a stable 23H2 requires none. No contest, 23H2 is the better (and easier) option, and gives another year's support in which to think about whether to upgrade to 24H2.

glasskuter · Dec 8, 2024

Bree said:
but not the same ones as you. It's just got too many bugs at the moment.

That's my major objection too when it comes to recommending it. I wouldn't wish what I went through getting it on mine on my worst enemy. If it's all over the place with compatible systems, i surely wouldn't recommend it on an incompatible one that has never even run 23h2.

jimbo45 · Dec 9, 2024

This is bonkers -- for typical home users (not extreme gamers / real power media creators / editors) why on earth should a basically workstation OS designed for relatively simple things need the most modern and sophisticated CPU's on the planet just to run a net browser, bank transactions, amazon / online purchases, whatsapp and some email. It just doesn't make sense. Also for home computers security is vastly overblown. WD is good enough and it's scams that are more of a problem (these can't be dealt with by normal A.V software -- they need really complex A.I to deal with and we are years away from that yet).

Nothing wrong with new gear etc -- but what's happening with Windows requirements these days is just 100% plain bonkers. Of course there are other quite secure OS'es around that can run perfectly and safely on much more modest hardware !!!!.

Cheers
jimbo

bobkn · Dec 9, 2024

jimbo45 said:
This is bonkers -- for typical home users (not extreme gamers / real power media creators / editors) why on earth should a basically workstation OS designed for relatively simple things need the most modern and sophisticated CPU's on the planet just to run a net browser, bank transactions, amazon / online purchases, whatsapp and some email. It just doesn't make sense. Also for home computers security is vastly overblown. WD is good enough and it's scams that are more of a problem (these can't be dealt with by normal A.V software -- they need really complex A.I to deal with and we are years away from that yet).

Nothing wrong with new gear etc -- but what's happening with Windows requirements these days is just 100% plain bonkers. Of course there are other quite secure OS'es around that can run perfectly and safely on much more modest hardware !!!!.

Cheers
jimbo

Is this a repost from 2021?

jimbo45 · Dec 10, 2024

bobkn said:
Is this a repost from 2021?

If it is --it shows nothing's changed. Same areasoning applies today. Maybe even more so.

Cheers
jimbo

colinp · Dec 10, 2024

jimbo45 said:
This is bonkers -- for typical home users (not extreme gamers / real power media creators / editors) why on earth should a basically workstation OS designed for relatively simple things need the most modern and sophisticated CPU's on the planet just to run a net browser, bank transactions, amazon / online purchases, whatsapp and some email. It just doesn't make sense. Also for home computers security is vastly overblown. WD is good enough and it's scams that are more of a problem (these can't be dealt with by normal A.V software -- they need really complex A.I to deal with and we are years away from that yet).

Nothing wrong with new gear etc -- but what's happening with Windows requirements these days is just 100% plain bonkers. Of course there are other quite secure OS'es around that can run perfectly and safely on much more modest hardware !!!!.

Cheers
jimbo

I am a long time "alternative" OS user (ahem), but I wanted to try out windows again after leaving the Vista/7 era. Windows 10 worked just fine, albeit a lot more "busy" than it needs to be, but I quite liked it. I am now on 11 23H2 and it also works fine.

I look at the OS as being a "means to an end", just a tool to allow me to use whatever program I need to do whatever I need at the time. I am still looking forward to next year when all those "cherry obsolete worthless land fill gen 5,6,7 computers" get tossed. I still wonder where all those environmentalists have gone to, completely ignoring what MS is attempting to do.

Me, I am sitting at my desk chuckling over the nuttiness that I read about. Why do I pay attention to the nuttiness and still have my "token" windows computer? Because I subscribe to the old adage: "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". Windows keeps reminding me that there are better alternatives out there, not to mention a little more ecologically sound.

Bree · Dec 10, 2024

colinp said:
I am still looking forward to next year when all those "cherry obsolete worthless land fill gen 5,6,7 computers" get tossed.

I'm a hoarder, I don't toss anything out

Anyway, why should I when 24H2 can run quite happily on a laptop from 2011 with a mere Pentium B950?

NormAtHome · Dec 10, 2024

Ok so for some reason this CPU which was perhaps on the approved list erroneously (which was how it got the Windows 11 upgrade to begin with) was removed so now it's not eligible for any more Windows 11 updates. That's just weird but nothing to be done.

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