Leak of upcoming features for Windows 11

jvickers said:

look at the forum. We're not typing in rectangles, we're typing in ovals. All the corners are rounded here as well.

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Whenever my GF breaks up with me, I come to this forum to stare at those beauties (rounded corners/shapes, rounded frames, rounded uploaded SSs) to fill the void of nature curves and real rounded things. My doctor's prescription for my back pain is 11forum-treatment, the corners make it so relaxing.

No joke, I really like that (rounded SSs and frames... of 11forum).

jvickers said:

I wonder if this would work with TranslucentTB. Only one way to find out!

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Drag and drop does not work with TranslucentTB. I know cause I'm using it now.

Is title correct? Ist word should be LACK?

jvickers said:

And these little things are the things making Macs so popular. Even the average grown adult seems to like these things. Adolescence and teens especially like them. It's us techies who could care to a lesser degree, it seems.

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It depends on what you do with your computer -- problem is that currently Windows has to accomodate vastly different sets of users. I don't need loads of games or multi streaming things on an Enterprise OS but Networking that actually works correctly and office apps. On a home computer other things including games etc might be appropriate.

Not an easy one for Ms to solve -- I think if Azure was made cheap enough I wouldn't mind if for Work purposes Windows was 100% delivered and run from the cloud. All the local (work) computer would need would be a micro OS that could connect with the cloud server -- it could be a really tiny "bootstrap" OS like VMWare's ESXi (commercial) OS. Locally of course I'd want a "Standard PC" with all the bells and whistles.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

It depends on what you do with your computer -- problem is that currently Windows has to accomodate vastly different sets of users. I don't need loads of games or multi streaming things on an Enterprise OS but Networking that actually works correctly and office apps. On a home computer other things including games etc might be appropriate.

Not an easy one for Ms to solve -- I think if Azure was made cheap enough I wouldn't mind if for Work purposes Windows was 100% delivered and run from the cloud. All the local (work) computer would need would be a micro OS that could connect with the cloud server -- it could be a really tiny "bootstrap" OS like VMWare's ESXi (commercial) OS. Locally of course I'd want a "Standard PC" with all the bells and whistles.

Cheers
jimbo

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These are all excellent points, jimbo. I think that's what Microsoft is trying to divide and conquer with updates at the same time to utility as well as aesthetics. My main point is that the younger crowd seems to go for glitz, glitter, and ease of use. They want a pretty, stable OS and computer that serves their purpose. Traditionally, Windows have beat out Macs in the gaming industry, but Apple is making strong headway in that arena from what I read on tech news. When (if) they get up to speed with Windows-based machines, Microsoft will have more to worry about.

Still, you're going to have die-hard builders who prefer PCs because you can do just that - build your own with all types of aesthetics such as lights on the MB, RAM, etc. (all useless in my opinion). You can't build a Mac from scratch. So, there will always be this PC niche that will want that ability and appreciate Windows, which is far more tweakable than Mac OS from what I can tell. (Subsequently, it seems to be all those different PC parts, which make building your own system easy, that ultimately make Windows run into errors on many occasions. What MB do you have? What's the CPU? What's the video card and brand? etc...)

Again, my main point is that Apple is quickly gaining footing based on those aesthetics and ease of use.

Edwin said:

Better tell Screenpresso, ShareX, Greenshot and all the others to go back to the drawing board!!!

We must have rounded corner captures!!! It's the way it must be!!!

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I forgot! You can adjust the Corner Radius in ShareX!

Snipping tool does rectangular snips, so if snipping a window, you always get part of background. Another reason I dislike rounded corners.

CornishRattler said:

Trouble is (and it's subjective) most Windows users just want the fluff and don't give a flying fu@k about actually functionality or customisation. How many of the whatever billions of Windows users have the ability or indeed the will to look past the visual bu!!sh!t.

That's what MS are after and it will be market share above everything else.

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Windows got its popularity due to actual features though. Easy customization, easy programming (VB), hardware support, object COM model, backward compatibility, extensibility by third-party shell extensions, drivers and protocols, easy task scheduling and search, etc. After that it is going with inertia, they remove some featires but there are enthusiasts who fix that with their third-party software.

Winuser said:

why didn't the put their resources to work to give us a tabbed File Explorer?

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What I really would want is the return of the feature that the Explorer remembered windows positions. This feature was there since Win95 but was removed in Vista. Now I have to use ShellFolderFix which is long unsupported and works not well. Why they removed this feature, essential for any spatial file manager? I have no idea.

Unawave said:

What should be the differences to the program "Sticky Notes" (included in Windows 11)?

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Migrating to the Modern/Metro interface.

jvickers said:

And these little things are the things making Macs so popular. Even the average grown adult seems to like these things. Adolescence and teens especially like them. It's us techies who could care to a lesser degree, it seems.

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Macs are FAR less popular than Windows. And with this approach of copying Macs Nadella leads Windows to the same market share.

jvickers said:

If an entire generation or two switches to Macs because the OS is prettier,

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Mac OS is definitely much less customizable than even Windows 95.

atinfo said:

AFAIK in "Graphic Design" world rounded shapes/things (even subtle) are more attractive than pointy shapes (in human mind or unconscious mind). Mac did it before MS

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Really? I think Windows since XP had rounded corners and/or mechanism of implementing it. The theming engine in WinXP was much less buggy than in versions since Vista.

Anixx said:

Macs are FAR less popular than Windows. And with this approach of copying Macs Nadella leads Windows to the same market share.

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For now, but Apple is making a concerted effort to make them more popular. They're already the choice of many K-12 institutions. That's training an entire generation of youth to like and use Macs. And purchase them. Let's not forget that part. I'd say that out of 90 master's students I teach, the majority of them use Macs now. (Sorry, no exact numbers.) That caused me to have to get a Mac from my employer so I could troubleshoot issues they might have when building educational games.

Anixx said:

Mac OS is definitely much less customizable than even Windows 95.

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No argument there. I just saw a program, MacPilot, which allows you to customize your MacOS, though, so that might be changing.

Anixx said:

Really? I think Windows since XP had rounded corners and/or mechanism of implementing it. The theming engine in WinXP was much less buggy than in versions since Vista.

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I didn't know that! The "XP" had no bugs! Absolutely not!
In "Graphic Design" not in "XP"...

jvickers said:

I'd say that out of 90 master's students I teach, the majority of them use Macs now.

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I do not know why this may be the case (may be status marker due to higher price), but it is definitely a local, not worldwide phenomenon.

SlicEnDicE said:

That would be a sight!

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It would, and if I didn't fall off and kill myself, my daughter would do the job!

Wynona said:

It would, and if I didn't fall off and kill myself, my daughter would do the job!

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...to avoid more embarrassment...

SlicEnDicE said:

...to avoid more embarrassment...

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Yep!

Wynona said:

Yep!

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Tell her to pull the stick outta her a** and relax a bit