Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware


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    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
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    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender

@Bree thank you for correction, yes i confused sse4.2 with tpm 😅

@brack oh yeah just checked only education and enterprise versions will receive sec updates untill 2026. sad i was planning to install 23h2 because ive seen many people saying its the most stable w11 version​

 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 11 home 23H2 22631.6199
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel core i7 (2nd gen) Turbo 3.10 ghz
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Amd Radeon HD 7400m 1GB & Intel hd graphics
    Sound Card
    BeatsAudio
    Hard Drives
    128gb SSD
  • Operating System
    macOS Sequoia
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iMac 24"
    CPU
    M1 3.2 ghz
    Memory
    8gb onboard
    Graphics card(s)
    igpu
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Retina 4.5K
    Screen Resolution
    4480x2520
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
It fails at the very end of the upgrade with the following error code: 0xC1900101 - 0x4000D The installation failed in the SECOND_BOOT phase with an error during MIGRATE_DATA operation.




Please open a separate thread for troubleshooting.



1) Run the V2 log collector > post a share link




2) Run upgrade_failure_info > post a share link






3) Run tuneup_plus > post a share link








0xC1900101 - 0x4000DCheck supplemental rollback logs for a setupmem.dmp file, or event logs for any unexpected reboots or errors.
Review the rollback log and determine the stop code.
The rollback log is located in the $Windows.~BT\Sources\Rollback folder. An example analysis is shown below. This example isn't representative of all cases:
A rollback occurred due to a driver configuration issue.
Installation failed during the second boot phase while attempting the MIGRATE_DATA operation.
This can occur because of incompatible drivers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
I've installed iot 24h2 on i7 G3 and i5 g6. Works ok with Rufus changes. The only upcoming problem is that there's a UEFI secure boot key update coming in 2026. There is a script you can run but it doesn't seem to work on the earlier processors, that could be a major security problem.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
isn't secure boot only gives advantage when someone physically have your computer and try to boot? or smt like that
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 11 home 23H2 22631.6199
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel core i7 (2nd gen) Turbo 3.10 ghz
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Amd Radeon HD 7400m 1GB & Intel hd graphics
    Sound Card
    BeatsAudio
    Hard Drives
    128gb SSD
  • Operating System
    macOS Sequoia
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iMac 24"
    CPU
    M1 3.2 ghz
    Memory
    8gb onboard
    Graphics card(s)
    igpu
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Retina 4.5K
    Screen Resolution
    4480x2520
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
The only upcoming problem is that there's a UEFI secure boot key update coming in 2026. There is a script you can run but it doesn't work on the earlier processors, that could be a major security problem.

I think the participants in this other thread would be keen to hear about the earlier processors problem. I'm pretty sure nodody else has picked up on that explanation.
Did you manually update your Secure Boot Keys ? - ElevenForum


All the best,
Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037
Since your computer is unsupported anyway, just disable Secure Boot and you shouldn't be affected by the changes in certificate. I even run Windows in Legacy BIOS mode in mine (2nd system specs).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
hi guys we all probably facing TPM-WMI(Secure Boot CA/keys need to be updated) error in event log. For me its showing everyday... I have zero error in logs and want to keep in that way so I am asking is there any way to stop windows checking up my device certificates?

like anything to add here? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot\Servicing

OR should i update certificates for future purposes? Is it possible 26h2 will require 2023 certificates only or what if microsoft block 2011 certificates one day and we all face unable to boot situation?
 
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  • OS
    windows 11 home 23H2 22631.6199
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel core i7 (2nd gen) Turbo 3.10 ghz
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Amd Radeon HD 7400m 1GB & Intel hd graphics
    Sound Card
    BeatsAudio
    Hard Drives
    128gb SSD
  • Operating System
    macOS Sequoia
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iMac 24"
    CPU
    M1 3.2 ghz
    Memory
    8gb onboard
    Graphics card(s)
    igpu
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Retina 4.5K
    Screen Resolution
    4480x2520
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
The certificates are only needed if you have Secure Boot enabled. Just disable Secure Boot and you should be able to boot any time.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I think the participants in this other thread would be keen to hear about the earlier processors problem. I'm pretty sure nodody else has picked up on that explanation.
Did you manually update your Secure Boot Keys ? - ElevenForum


All the best,
Denis
I was able to update secure boot keys on my 2012 processor and 2014 Gigabyte GA990FXA-UD3 motherboard. Well, one of them at least, the Windows CA 2023 key that's necessary for booting Windows in Secure Boot. But it did not update the KEK since the motherboard mfr. has apparently abandoned it and didn't return a signed one.

Maybe they will in the future, maybe not. I took control and used MOSBY instead, which works fine.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro
    Memory
    GSkill 3200, 2x8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming Z
    Sound Card
    on-board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    MSI 180hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro, Samsung 870 Evo, generic PCIe NVME, WD 1TB 2.5" laptop spinner
    PSU
    Corsair RM 650
    Case
    mATX
    Cooling
    BeQuiet 240mm AIO and a bunch of case fans
    Keyboard
    one that clacks softly
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    bunches of bps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows' own
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 1700
    Motherboard
    GA-AB350M G-3
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    RX-480
    Sound Card
    In-Built Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    NVME/SSD's
    PSU
    Thermaltake BX1 550W
    Case
    Some junky thing
    Cooling
    ThermalTake Assassin(?)
    Browser
    FF/Edge
    Antivirus
    Whatever Windows does
    Other Info
    Secure Boot enabled updated to 2023 CA keys, TPM2.0 enabled with system drive Bitlocker'd.
isn't secure boot only gives advantage when someone physically have your computer and try to boot? or smt like that
No... something as simple as a .BAT file run from an account with ADMIN rights (which most of us use by default, and even reflexively dismiss UAC warnings too!) can change the boot files to make your system do what they want it to. It's easy to get people to click on those things in web sites. Sure, they get flagged as a threat eventually but not before some people click on them.

But it will most likely be better disguised than a simple .BAT file, to slip through web site threat protections. And since Windows 10 isn't getting security updates that will also be unhelpful for new threats, so secure boot was the only remaining protection and with so many people disabling that to get around the certificate expirations... well that's not good.
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro
    Memory
    GSkill 3200, 2x8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming Z
    Sound Card
    on-board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    MSI 180hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro, Samsung 870 Evo, generic PCIe NVME, WD 1TB 2.5" laptop spinner
    PSU
    Corsair RM 650
    Case
    mATX
    Cooling
    BeQuiet 240mm AIO and a bunch of case fans
    Keyboard
    one that clacks softly
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    bunches of bps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows' own
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 1700
    Motherboard
    GA-AB350M G-3
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    RX-480
    Sound Card
    In-Built Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    NVME/SSD's
    PSU
    Thermaltake BX1 550W
    Case
    Some junky thing
    Cooling
    ThermalTake Assassin(?)
    Browser
    FF/Edge
    Antivirus
    Whatever Windows does
    Other Info
    Secure Boot enabled updated to 2023 CA keys, TPM2.0 enabled with system drive Bitlocker'd.
Best solution: Have a recent backup of the whole Windows disk and of your data, anything happens you just wipe the disk and restore the backup. It reminded me of the "Police virus". Hackers would lock your PC because you were visiting porn or other suspicious sites and the "Police" caught you. In laptops they even took a photo of you "caught at the act" using the webcam. The message had the local Police logos to make it look genuine and they asked for 100€ to be deposited in an unknown bank account to unlock your PC. Of course they never did. Thankfully it was a simple hoax application loading at startup and all you had to do is boot in Safe Mode and remove it.

This is the Greek version using the Greek Police logo:

Police Virus.webp

This is the UK version:
1761572002191.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
... Thankfully it was a simple hoax application loading at startup and all you had to do is boot in Safe Mode and remove it.
...
Except it's not a hoax... if they're asking for money to restore it that's extortion.

And in the days of MBR it was just as easy (replace the boot sector contents with your own application instead) but a bit more difficult to restore. At least, if you didn't know about the "fixmbr" command to execute from Safe Mode.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro
    Memory
    GSkill 3200, 2x8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming Z
    Sound Card
    on-board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    MSI 180hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro, Samsung 870 Evo, generic PCIe NVME, WD 1TB 2.5" laptop spinner
    PSU
    Corsair RM 650
    Case
    mATX
    Cooling
    BeQuiet 240mm AIO and a bunch of case fans
    Keyboard
    one that clacks softly
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    bunches of bps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows' own
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 1700
    Motherboard
    GA-AB350M G-3
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    RX-480
    Sound Card
    In-Built Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    NVME/SSD's
    PSU
    Thermaltake BX1 550W
    Case
    Some junky thing
    Cooling
    ThermalTake Assassin(?)
    Browser
    FF/Edge
    Antivirus
    Whatever Windows does
    Other Info
    Secure Boot enabled updated to 2023 CA keys, TPM2.0 enabled with system drive Bitlocker'd.
Except it's not a hoax... if they're asking for money to restore it that's extortion.

And in the days of MBR it was just as easy (replace the boot sector contents with your own application instead) but a bit more difficult to restore. At least, if you didn't know about the "fixmbr" command to execute from Safe Mode.
Yet another reason for me to keep my system as legacy as possible. Legacy BIOS boot mode, no Secure Boot, no TPM. Not only I save about 1GB disk space from the system partitions of GPT, but also avoid such modern issues. It is an unsupported computer anyway, so why use GPT, Secure Boot and the like?
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
.... IT is an unsupported computer anyway, so why use GPT, Secure Boot and the like?
Hopefully you don't find out why.

And beware the time-bombs... delayed launch rootkits that can get into backup sets. Oh, the fun times are here again!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro
    Memory
    GSkill 3200, 2x8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming Z
    Sound Card
    on-board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    MSI 180hz
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro, Samsung 870 Evo, generic PCIe NVME, WD 1TB 2.5" laptop spinner
    PSU
    Corsair RM 650
    Case
    mATX
    Cooling
    BeQuiet 240mm AIO and a bunch of case fans
    Keyboard
    one that clacks softly
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    bunches of bps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows' own
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 1700
    Motherboard
    GA-AB350M G-3
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    RX-480
    Sound Card
    In-Built Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    NVME/SSD's
    PSU
    Thermaltake BX1 550W
    Case
    Some junky thing
    Cooling
    ThermalTake Assassin(?)
    Browser
    FF/Edge
    Antivirus
    Whatever Windows does
    Other Info
    Secure Boot enabled updated to 2023 CA keys, TPM2.0 enabled with system drive Bitlocker'd.
Since Windows 95 I keep an updated antivirus and use my brains. All these years I remember only once being infected while using an infected floppy, not internet. Yes, it can happen, but it should be up to us to minimize risk, not rely on how "secure" the OS is. Making Windows "more secure" makes the users more careless and when something bad happens they blame Microsoft instead of themselves.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Haven't visited here in a while... However, using a mixture of the Rufus method and the FlyOOBE method (the latter for in place upgrades where I didn't have access to my USB sticks) I've upgraded a few laptops that were previously not allowed to run 11:
  • Surface Pro 3 with 4th generation i5
  • HP 15-ay with 7th generation i5
  • HP 15-p with 4th generation i5
  • HP 14-bp with 6th generation i3
No problems so far, although Windows 11 does seem to have a lot more background tasks (per se) than 10. It'd be interesting to know how to remove some of the "bloat" associated with 11 (including the AI stuff I don't care about) without having to just install 11 IoT or IoT LTSC over the top of whatever I currently have.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Revo Uninstaller can remove Windows built-in apps. So just remove anything you don't use, although I would just disable them.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (8457)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
No... something as simple as a .BAT file run from an account with ADMIN rights (which most of us use by default, and even reflexively dismiss UAC warnings too!) can change the boot files to make your system do what they want it to.

from an old microsoft engineer "Secure boot only keeps operating system from boot into any other or from any other operating system, if you do not pay much attention to security; don’t have good anti virus and malware software, and visit potentially dangerous sites, then secure boot may not offer really help as all it protects is the boot process. It will not offer protection against many of the attacks that hit the operating system but are nothing to do with the boot process."

what i do know secure boot is really useful if you are white collar worker in corporations or government OR if you play valorant because their anti cheat system cant reach out boot status ect..

What i say if you are simple home user secure boot won't give you much advantage... opposite many home users reporting they unable to boot system bc of certificate migration. I have read even companies IT departments mass disable secure boot in workers laptops.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 11 home 23H2 22631.6199
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel core i7 (2nd gen) Turbo 3.10 ghz
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Amd Radeon HD 7400m 1GB & Intel hd graphics
    Sound Card
    BeatsAudio
    Hard Drives
    128gb SSD
  • Operating System
    macOS Sequoia
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iMac 24"
    CPU
    M1 3.2 ghz
    Memory
    8gb onboard
    Graphics card(s)
    igpu
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Retina 4.5K
    Screen Resolution
    4480x2520
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
from an old microsoft engineer "Secure boot only keeps operating system from boot into any other or from any other operating system, if you do not pay much attention to security; don’t have good anti virus and malware software, and visit potentially dangerous sites, then secure boot may not offer really help as all it protects is the boot process. It will not offer protection against many of the attacks that hit the operating system but are nothing to do with the boot process."

what i do know secure boot is really useful if you are white collar worker in corporations or government OR if you play valorant because their anti cheat system cant reach out boot status ect..

What i say if you are simple home user secure boot won't give you much advantage... opposite many home users reporting they unable to boot system bc of certificate migration. I have read even companies IT departments mass disable secure boot in workers laptops.


There is another EF thread on updating secure boot.

Microsoft is addressing vulnerabilities when secure boot is on.




Most computer users that have posted log files have secure boot off but still want to update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation

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