Installation of Win 11 on incompatible Win 10 CPU


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I turned off Core Isolation. Right now I don't see much difference, but I'll keep using it without it on for a while and see if it makes a big difference.
What could happen to my PC if it's off? I hate leaving it less secure and if I see little or no difference, I'll slide her back on.
Here is a good article explaining Core Isolation and other Windows security measures:


BTW, sorry to hear that you have received flack for running Win 11 on technically unsupported hardware. I usually like to point out to people to do so with caution, basically just go in with your eyes open and realize that someday there may be difficulties with future updates that we cannot predict. However, I would venture to say that most of us here are enthusiasts who don't always color within the lines :-). We're here to help each other use, troubleshoot, and sometimes hack Windows to suit our purposes even if not 100% the way Microsoft intended.

Don't let some negative feedback discourage you. Ignore the non-believers!

In my case, for example, I have Windows 11 installed on about a dozen machines, and I think that only about two of them are technically within supported specs. A couple of my machines are at least 10 years old :-). However, Win 11 works absolutely great on every single one of those systems. Should I have problems in the future, I'm willing accept that because I've gone in knowing the risk in advance.
 

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What could happen to my PC if it's off? I hate leaving it less secure....
Core Isolation and Memory Integrity have been available for all in Windows 10 since 2018, before that it was only available in the Enterprise editions. This How-To Geek article is a good introduction to what extra protection it provides.

 

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Release Preview as a native boot vhdx.
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Release Preview as a native boot vhdx.

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On Win 10, it would turn off by itself some times. Using it on Win 11 (same PC) it stays on ALL the time and doesn't seem to slow it down. It warns me on Win 11 if I turn it off, which can be dismissed, but I leave it on. But, as we all know, if the future brings problems, I just go back and that's that.
Thank you all for the useful info. You've built my confidence on this site back up a few notches. ;-)
 

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Two key factors that will probably influence the 'On' or 'Off' decision for users are how important it is to them to maximise their PC's performance; and the impact it may have on software capability, i.e. How much 'less efficient' might a specific hardware/software configuration be when having these and/or other MS 'Guard' features activated?

As one example; Tested! Here's how much the new Windows security features hurt PC performance

There are plenty of similar analyses around the net; and, from the consistency of findings, it seems clear that both the vintage of user hardware and the main purpose of an individual PC will be key influencing factors, e.g. avid gamers and Windows 11 users with hardware that does not fully meet the 'minimum recommended spec' may not consider any performance hit to be of benefit. Also the Microsoft developers' tendency to make exclusive use of hardware acceleration features in the design of these security features is known to impact negatively on some 3rd-party software products, e.g. virtualisation software, and security applications (anti-virus, anti-Malware) products that also want direct access to a PC's hardware acceleration functionality for maximum performance.
 

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Hi folks
I installed it as a VM "poodlefaking" the cpu to one which is supported in W11 and then imaged the machine and restored on to an HP envy laptop with an I5 Gen 6 CPU which definitely isn't supported -- no problem -- W11 works just fine and updates properly too.

Skjámynd 2022-07-30 112043.png


Here's the CPU I "poodlefaked" in the VM config. The VM also has an Emulated TPM V2 as well. I'm sure there's mechanisms in HYPER-V for doing this as well when creating a VM.

Skjámynd 2022-07-30 110120.png

After ist boot into the real system Windows can grab drivers it needs. If you have any problems booting the restored image simply boot any windows iso / macrium(pe version) that allows boot into command line, and run bcdboot to re-install the boot loader of the restored windows system.

The CPU though must have a minimum of 2 cores and be 64 bit capable. Memory must be a min or 4GB (which I allocated to the VM) and Disk space for the VM itself i.e the Windows system a minimum of 48GB.

I prefer this method as I don't have to re-install apps again !!! also if the VM doesn't work I just ditch it without having compromised a running machine. I don't like fiddling with the registry or messing around with dll's etc as these can have totally unpredictable effects on both the OS and applications and can't be guaranteed to continue working on any Windows update,

An i5 gen 6 CPU on a laptop is still perfectly OK for 99% of things I need Windows for -- If W11 starts making the machine run slow or other problems I'll just use it as a NAS or VM testbed - I'm waiting to see if Amazon etc will have any "Black Friday" deals this year. With people's budgets under stress from places as different as N.Z and Iceland including also Canada and USA there could be some good bargains to be bagged later on.

Cheers
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Jimbo, just out of curiosity, why go through all the extra work of installing to a VM, creating an image, then restoring the image to a physical PC? Why not simply install to that physical PC right from the start?

I'm not trying to judge your method, just curious because maybe I can learn something :-)
 

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    Intel i7-7500U
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My first system is a dual core laptop, a Vista era model, some generations before the first generation Intel Core i3 etc. My main computer is a third generation Intel Core-i7. Both running Windows 11 on Legacy BIOS (MBR) without UEFI, without Secure Boot, without TPM. No problems at all. Both are updated to the latest Windows updates, even the optional ones without any issue. Both are much newer than the oldest possible system I have successfully installed Windows 11 on. It was a desktop computer with Intel Pentium 4 6xx CPU (the very first Intel 64-bit series), 2GB RAM and an old IDE hard disk. So don't think about it. If you have a 64-bit system with at least 2GB RAM it is capable of running Windows 11. The exception is the first generation AMD 64 CPUs that lack some required instructions and cannot run Windows 8 64-bit or newer. They are limited to Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 10 32-bit.
 

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    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
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I do not feel comfortable doing anything like you're suggesting in the last parts of your post
That's fine. Don't do anything you won't feel comfortable with. Leaving those 2 drivers installed has no effect on the operation of your system, they may be installed but nothing is ever likely to actually use them.

They only need to be removed should you wish to enable Core Isolation/Memory Integrity, and your system can work fine without that.

This is a good overview of what extra level of protection they provide. If you feel it's of little further benefit to you then by all means leave things as they are. I've tried to make clear what your options are, only you can decide if it's worth pursuing them all.

 

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  • OS
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
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    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Release Preview as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
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    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Release Preview as a native boot vhdx.

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That's fine. Don't do anything you won't feel comfortable with. Leaving those 2 drivers installed has no effect on the operation of your system, they may be installed but nothing is ever likely to actually use them.

They only need to be removed should you wish to enable Core Isolation/Memory Integrity, and your system can work fine without that.

This is a good overview of what extra level of protection they provide. If you feel it's of little further benefit to you then by all means leave things as they are. I've tried to make clear what your options are, only you can decide if it's worth pursuing them all.


Any advice on how to remove uninstalled drivers from the Driver Store?

They can prevent enabling Core Isolation, even if they were part of software that has been uninstalled.
 

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    Ryzen 9 5950X
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    Asus Tuf Gaming X570-Plus
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    64GB DDR4 3800 (@ 3600)
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    Zotac RTX 3080
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My personal favorite way to do this is by using an application called "Driver Store Explorer" also known as RAPR.

It's a free app that you can download here:


Some usage tips:

NOTE: This procedure will NOT delete drivers that are in use on your system. It will only delete old versions of drivers and drivers not used by your system.

• After extracting the ZIP file contents to a folder, run RAPR.EXE
• Click any driver in the main window, press CTRL-A to select all drivers, and finally click inside any one of the check boxes. You should see all drivers become checked.
• To the right of the main window, make sure that “Force Deletion” is NOT checked, and then click the “Delete Driver” button.
• You will be asked if you are sure. Click on “OK”.
• After a little while you should get an error saying that some drivers could not be removed from the driver store. This is fine – this is simply a notification that indicates that any of the drivers that are in use were not deleted.
• Click “OK”.
• Close the program.
 

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    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
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    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Additional options installed:
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    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 15-BL012DX
    CPU
    Intel i7-7500U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Dual Intel HD 620 and Nvidia GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k 15-inch
    Screen Resolution
    4k (3840 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
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    RAM Upgraded from 16GB to 32GB WiFi Upgraded from WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 SSD upgraded from 512GB NVMe SSD to 1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD

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The exception is the first generation AMD 64 CPUs that lack some required instructions and cannot run Windows 8 64-bit or newer. They are limited to Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 10 32-bit.

actually spapakons those Socket 940 based AMD CPUs can run Win8.0 64bit [NT 6.2] but not Win8.1 64bit [NT 6.3] & higher due to the "cmpxchg16b", "lahf/sahf", and "prefetchw" cpu requirements


Any advice on how to remove uninstalled drivers from the Driver Store?

They can prevent enabling Core Isolation, even if they were part of software that has been uninstalled.

this is one good reason why I use the DriverStore Explorer [RAPR] app to check for old drivers from the driver store that I need to truly remove
 

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(snip)

this is one good reason why I use the DriverStore Explorer [RAPR] app to check for old drivers from the driver store that I need to truly remove

I've done the same. I find it unfortunate that it has been necessary. I'm nothing like a Windows expert, but having drivers retained like that seems like a very unfortunate design choice.
 

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    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
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    64GB Kingston DDR5-5600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic XG320U
    Screen Resolution
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I've done the same. I find it unfortunate that it has been necessary. I'm nothing like a Windows expert, but having drivers retained like that seems like a very unfortunate design choice.
Actually, retaining drivers like that makes perfect sense (at least in my mind). First, if a device is removed and then later reintroduced to the system, the driver is immediately available.

As for older versions of drivers, this allows for the ability to easily rollback to a previous driver as can be accomplished from Device Manager.

However, I'll admit that it can get a bit out of hand at times, and it would be nice if there was some facility to manage these built right into the GUI.
 

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Actually, retaining drivers like that makes perfect sense (at least in my mind). First, if a device is removed and then later reintroduced to the system, the driver is immediately available.

As for older versions of drivers, this allows for the ability to easily rollback to a previous driver as can be accomplished from Device Manager.

However, I'll admit that it can get a bit out of hand at times, and it would be nice if there was some facility to manage these built right into the GUI.

Retaining old drivers is a convenience that I'd prefer to be without.
 

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    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
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