Live kernel event 193 , is it a hardware/gpu issue?


mat1995pc

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Hello
I´ve had some parts for a long time ( ryzen 7 5700x , 32gb ram 3200mhz , asus tuf b550m gaming plus and a xpg pylon 650w psu)
I´ve had a rtx 3060 which i had no problems before that i sold
I recently bought a rtx 4070 that i played for 3 months without any problem but yesterday my pc completely hanged while using windows media player , i was watching a recorded video
I remember r6 siege was running at the background (i´ve alt tabbed)
My computer never hanged while playing games or intensive gpu tasks ( ran heaven benchmark for about 10 hours to test the gpu when i got it )
I started using wmp and first the image hanged ( while the sound kept playing in the background) then the system completely froze after
I can´t find any display driver error crash or something relevant in the event viewer
This was not registered as bsod as well , windows only says that a improper shutdown happened
There is no kernel reports or dumps to check either
I have this in the reliability history
One detail that i have to add that i recently installed g hub , don´t know if the logitech software can cause this maybe
I also tested the ram with memtest86 and no erros were shown
Descrição
Um problema com o hardware fez com que o Windows parasse de funcionar corretamente.
Assinatura do problema
Nome de Evento de Problema: LiveKernelEvent
Código: 193
Parâmetro 1: 810
Parâmetro 2: ffff9707098df000
Parâmetro 3: ffff970713089080
Parâmetro 4: 1ef
Versão do SO: 10_0_22631
Service Pack: 0_0
Produto: 256_1
Versão do sistema operacional: 10.0.22631.2.0.0.256.48
Identificação da Localidade: 1046
My nvidia driver is 545.84
Is there a issue with wmp or is my hardware broken? Is there a way to read this log?
i´ve searched for these codes and could not debug or discover what they mean
Can these parameters be read to identify the cause ?
Thanks
 

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How many times did you have to power off the computer?

How many times were there unexpected or spontaneous shutdowns and restarts?



Please use English as the default language then run the V2 log collector and post a share link into this thread using drop box or google drive.






 

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unfortunately i´ve formatted the pc already , i only have these parameters

it frozed while watching a windows media player video and gaming (r6 siege)

it never crashed / frozed before , had to restart via the button on the case

is there any other way to diagnose ?

thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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Erica6
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
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If there are any new hangs / freezes or unexpected shutdowns and restarts please post a V2 share link into the newest post.

Live Kernel bugcheck 193 is caused by misbehaving GPU drivers.

For computers with multiple GPU log files may be useful in identifying the misbehaving driver.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
If there are any new hangs / freezes or unexpected shutdowns and restarts please post a V2 share link into the newest post.

Live Kernel bugcheck 193 is caused by misbehaving GPU drivers.

For computers with multiple GPU log files may be useful in identifying the misbehaving driver.
do you think it could be the hardware ? i´ve tried heaven benchmark , 4k games and the gpu does not crash
played a lot of r6 siege as well
unfortunately i´ve already formatted my pc , do these parameters show something?
thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W
Live Kernel events are always reported:

Um problema com o hardware fez com que o Windows parasse de funcionar corretamente.

A problem with the hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

If there was no BSOD then you can monitor the computer to see if it was only a one time or recurrent event.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
Live Kernel events are always reported:

Um problema com o hardware fez com que o Windows parasse de funcionar corretamente.

A problem with the hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

If there was no BSOD then you can monitor the computer to see if it was only a one time or recurrent event.
i remember it was one time only but i´m sure it was not a BSOD

only reported that he was not shutdown properly but no BSOD
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W
i´ve formatted the pc already

There were new drivers installed.



Run Tuneup plus to have the optimal settings:






Monitor using:

 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
i mean i´ve formatted the pc after the live kernel event 193 occurred

i don´t have the logs anymore

it is hard to rma to gigabyte since they want proof of the problem and i don´t know if i can reproduce it again

could it be a hardware problem even if it works in games , benchmarks etc ?

Thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W
Almost always hardware problems will present with recurrent problems.

(The exception is usually unexpected power outages)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
Almost always hardware problems will present with recurrent problems.

(The exception is usually unexpected power outages)
hmm i see

do you think it is worth to run furmark or some gpu benchmark ? thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W
It's best to monitor especially after a clean install.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
It's best to monitor especially after a clean install.
I´m wondering if it is possible for the gpu to work in games but it has the codec damaged maybe ? since it happened while playing a video in windows media player

the video in question was 60hz and my monitor is 144hz

thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11RYZEN 7 5700X32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZNVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
AMD/NVIDIA
CPU
RYZEN 7 5700X
Motherboard
TUF B550M GAMING PLUS
Memory
32 GB DUAL CHANNEL TEAM GROUP 3200MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA RTX 4070 12GB GIGABYTE
Monitor(s) Displays
LG ULTRAGEAR 144HZ
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
1TB HDD , 256 GB SSD
PSU
XPG ADATA PYLON 650W
Enjoy the computer and monitor as needed.

If there are recurrent problems then log files can be scanned and read.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation

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