Solved Macrium Rescue Media doesn't see backup drive


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Aloha from Maui, new member here :) Using Macrium Reflect Home v8.o.6161. The main program sees it just fine.
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When I boot to the rescue media, either USB or from the boot menu, it thinks the backup drive has an error.
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If I browse for image file, I actually find it on D drive as opposed to my actual backup V drive .
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Why is the rescue software reassigning a different drive letter to my backup drive? Does it need to be formatted in a specific manner? It's currently GPT/NTFS. My backup drive is a new 2TB Samsung 870 internal SSD. I'm doing this to prep for Windows 11 upgrade, in case I want to go back. But I'm liking Windows 11 so far, I'm actually dual booting it on a separate drive.

Thoughts?

Also, whats the average backup size of a typical Win 10 install with a few games, MS Office, etc.? Mine is 241GB.
 
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Aloha from Maui, new user here :) Using Macrium Reflect Home v8.o.6161. The main program sees it just fine.
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When I boot to the rescue media, either USB or from the boot menu, it thinks the backup drive has an error.
View attachment 9982

If I browse for image file, I actually find it on D drive as opposed to my actual backup V drive .
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Why is the rescue software reassigning a different drive letter to my backup drive? Does it need to be formatted in a specific manner? It's currently GPT/NTFS. My backup drive is a new 2TB Samsung 870 internal SSD. I'm doing this to prep for Windows 11 upgrade, in case I want to go back. But I'm liking Windows 11 so far, I'm actually dual booting it on a separate drive.

Thoughts?

Also, whats the average backup size of a typical Win 10 install with a few games, MS Office, etc.? Mine is 241GB.
Hi there

@Scott

The software assigns a different drive because it's based on a Windows PE / RE environment -- a minimum "Windows bare rescue" OS with drivers etc with its own boot manager which will assign volumes according to how the program loads and the order it finds the drivers --I wouldn't worry about it -- simply use the diskpart command with listvol from the command box if you get confused as to what drive is what.

I find as for size of Windows -- I have Office2019, some old W7 games, VLC, some SAP software to connect to clients SAP systems, VmWare workstation, Photoshop and a few other things and I'm using 50GB of an 80GB size disk. I have another Windows install -- defined as 80GB and the third at 60 GB (Windows 2k22 Server) .

I'm using these as "VHDX" drives on a 256GB SSD -- you could have separate partitions if using VHDX "Virtual drives" (not Virtual machines) if you want - but if you only use a single version of Windows --use a small OS partition and keep all your data etc on a separate partition -- if you hose up the OS / have to restore etc you don't lose your data when restoring (also makes backups quicker and easier).

So the backup size is around 20 - 30 GB for these Windows systems. Yours is large because you probably have a lot of data on the OS drive (private data e.g music files /. videos etc) -- always better to separate those off the OS partition.

When creating the backup USB -- choose the relevant version in the "BUILD" option -- I've found chosing the appropriate based on PE rather than the RE versions is usually far better for W10 / W11 etc -- also create the ISO and use Rufus to create a bootable USB from the ISO. Use an 8GB USB stick (max) --using bigger sticks can cause problems with NTFS boot -- shouldn't do but I've found some computers just don't like booting with USB sticks > 8GB with NTFS format -- nothing in the boot spec that should be a problem for EFI boot but some computers for one reason or another just don't like it.

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@Scott

At default compression settings (medium), the backup size will be about 1/2 the size of the data on the C:\ drive.
If you right click the C:\ drive and choose Properties, just divide the "Used Space" by two, to get the approx. size of the backups.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys.

@jimbo45

I went a ahead and created rescue media under the WinPE environment per your recommendation. I didn't realize Rufus 3.16 could create bootable USB's that work with secure boot turned on. v3.14 couldn't.

@Ghot

So I moved my library folders to a different drive, about 200GB worth, and that brought my backup size down to 106GB. The strange thing is I tried a backup with high compression and the file size was the same.
 

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So I moved my library folders to a different drive, about 200GB worth, and that brought my backup size down to 106GB. The strange thing is I tried a backup with high compression and the file size was the same.


Yeah, I've only made backups with compression set to medium. The higher the compression, the slower the backup.
I have 36GB on my C:\ drive. On medium compression, my backups are about 18GB.



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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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