Poll on Backup software


Which imaging program do you use for backups?


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I’m curious as to why the focus on backup time. My MR backups are scheduled to run when I’m not using my laptop so I honestly don’t care about the backup time, as long as they aren’t unusually long. I really don’t even know how long they take although I suppose I could look in the MR logs if I needed to know.
3 important indicators: backup time, image size, and restore reliability.

Restore reliability is important to everyone, but I only have a simple virtual machine and can't fully test it. And I think this is the most basic functionality and no one fails in my virtual machine.

Whether the backup time is important depends on your usage habits. If you are used to backing up before going to bed and set up to automatically shut down after the backup is completed, then the backup time is not important. If it is during working hours then the backup time is important.

Image size has value for everyone, especially those who don't have a lot of free space.
 

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I personally don’t even pretend to know what’s best for anyone else no less what’s in their mind or their thought processes. I’ll leave that to those more omniscient than I…
What's best for everyone (myself included) is to make informed decisions rather than jump to all sorts of ridiculous conclusions I hope, and, you don't need to be a scientist to be able to figure that out. Speaking of science, computer science is still about science, albeit dealing with Microsoft for prolonged periods of time can very often tend to make a person feel like it's got more to do with Black Magic of course. 🤣
 

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Whether the backup time is important depends on your usage habits. If you are used to backing up before going to bed and set up to automatically shut down after the backup is completed, then the backup time is not important. If it is during working hours then the backup time is important.
Maybe or maybe not. With MR (do not know about others) the PC can be used while the backup is running as it uses VSS. Yes there could be performance issue if the normal working activities require serious processor or drive resources.
 

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Intel Core Ultra
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1,500Mbps
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Firefox, Edge
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Windows Defender
Maybe or maybe not. With MR (do not know about others) the PC can be used while the backup is running as it uses VSS. Yes there could be performance issue if the normal working activities require serious processor or drive resources.
This. Normally my MR BUs are set to run when I'm normally not using my laptop but their have been a few times when I was. Honestly except for the notification I would have not known it was running.
 

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Windows 11 Pro
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Dell/XPS 15 9530
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13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900H 2.60 GHz
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Microsoft Defender
Can someone suggest a backup solution for me? 🤣
 

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    custom build
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
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    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    1680x1050
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
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    Windows 11 Proi7-4500U 800- 3000MHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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Alienware PC
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Intel i7 4790K
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ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
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ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
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SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
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SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
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EVGA 850 watt
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Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
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HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
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1.2 GHz
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Chrome..Edge..Firefox
What about a duplicator? Those any good?
What do you mean by duplicator? Do you mean a software that clones a drive into another?
If yes, that is one of the options of the software I mentioned.
 

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    custom build
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
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    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    500 Mb/s
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    Firefox 64
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Asus Q550LF
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    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
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    Asus Q550LF
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    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
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    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
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    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
What do you mean by duplicator? Do you mean a software that clones a drive into another?
If yes, that is one of the options of the software I mentioned.
 

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Intel i7 4790K
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As you have a desktop you don't need a hardware to duplicate a HDD and I don't know if it can clone a M.2 or 2.5" SSD.
With a desktop all you need is a good software.

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    PC/Desktop
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    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
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    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    1680x1050
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    500 Mb/s
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    Asus Q550LF
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    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
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    Asus Q550LF
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    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
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    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
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    500 Mb/s
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As you have a desktop you don't need a hardware to duplicate a HDD and I don't know if it can clone a M.2 or 2.5" SSD.
With a desktop all you need is a good software.

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I have this duplicator, and I also have one for M.2, they work fast and flawlessly. If a person ever goes to stand alone duplicator's, they will never go back to software backup programs again.
 

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ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
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EVGA 850 watt
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HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
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Microsoft Wireless
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1.2 GHz
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Chrome..Edge..Firefox
If a person ever goes to stand alone duplicator's, they will never go back to software backup programs again.
You are comparing oranges and bananas.

Duplicators are hardware cloning devices and rather elaborate for most persons use. In the end, they are still only cloning devices.

Software image backup tools primary function is to allow a user to restore OS on INSTALLED drives in event of an issue on installed OS/Programs. This is by far a more common requirement.
You can store multiple backups on one drive (assuming reasonable capacity).

A hardware duplicator is not much use in above usage.
 

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Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
ASUS Zenbook 14
CPU
I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
Motherboard
Yep, Laptop has one.
Memory
16 GB soldered
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel Iris XE
Sound Card
Realtek built in
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laptop OLED screen
Screen Resolution
2880x1800 touchscreen
Hard Drives
1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
PSU
Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
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Yep, got one
Cooling
Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
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Built in UK keybd
Mouse
Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
Internet Speed
900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
Browser
Edge
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
You are comparing oranges and bananas.

Duplicators are hardware cloning devices and rather elaborate for most persons use. In the end, they are still only cloning devices.

Software image backup tools primary function is to allow a user to restore OS on INSTALLED drives in event of an issue on installed OS/Programs. This is by far a more common requirement.
You can store multiple backups on one drive (assuming reasonable capacity).

A hardware duplicator is not much use in above usage.
Ok, I respect your opinion, so let’s just agree to disagree. Software methods rely on the performance and stability of the operating system and the cloning software itself, there is a chance that glitches or conflicts may occur during the cloning process. This can lead to incomplete or corrupted duplicates, causing data loss or rendering the cloned disks unusable. I understand no software or hardware based backup/clone is beyond a glitch, I just choose to use the hardware based.
 
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Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Alienware PC
CPU
Intel i7 4790K
Motherboard
ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Memory
32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
PSU
EVGA 850 watt
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Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Keyboard
HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless
Internet Speed
1.2 GHz
Browser
Chrome..Edge..Firefox
Can someone suggest a backup solution for me? 🤣
Ok, I respect your opinion, so let’s just agree to disagree. Software methods rely on the performance and stability of the operating system and the cloning software itself, there is a chance that glitches or conflicts may occur during the cloning process. This can lead to incomplete or corrupted duplicates, causing data loss or rendering the cloned disks unusable. I understand no software or hardware based backup/clone is beyond a glitch, I just choose to use the hardware based.
If you think duplicators it is the best backup solution why did you ask for a recommendation for a backup solution?
 

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    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntui5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Proi7-4500U 800- 3000MHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
Ok, I respect your opinion, so let’s just agree to disagree. Software methods rely on the performance and stability of the operating system and the cloning software itself, there is a chance that glitches or conflicts may occur during the cloning process. This can lead to incomplete or corrupted duplicates, causing data loss or rendering the cloned disks unusable. I understand no software or hardware based backup/clone is beyond a glitch, I just choose to use the hardware based.
What is there to agree or disagree. Your hardware solves one solution but not image backups.

If that suits you fine but it does not suit anybody who wants to use image backups.

As I said "Oranges and Bananas'
 

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OS
Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
ASUS Zenbook 14
CPU
I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
Motherboard
Yep, Laptop has one.
Memory
16 GB soldered
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel Iris XE
Sound Card
Realtek built in
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop OLED screen
Screen Resolution
2880x1800 touchscreen
Hard Drives
1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
PSU
Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
Case
Yep, got one
Cooling
Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
Keyboard
Built in UK keybd
Mouse
Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
Internet Speed
900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
Browser
Edge
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Both are fruits, but they look and taste differently. 😄
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3Ryzen 7 2700U Pro32GBiGPU Vega 10
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8894 / Linux Mint 22.3
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    125W(Dock)/65W(Travel Adapter)
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
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Software methods rely on the performance and stability of the operating system and the cloning software itself, there is a chance that glitches or conflicts may occur during the cloning process. This can lead to incomplete or corrupted duplicates, causing data loss or rendering the cloned disks unusable. I understand no software or hardware based backup/clone is beyond a glitch, I just choose to use the hardware based.
The OS [and apps installed and/or running on it] doesn't come into play in that regard if choosing to use only the bootable rescue environment (e.g., the bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021, which is what I still prefer to use for making full/incremental system backups). Also, the bootable rescue environment software itself is much less prone to glitches or conflicts especially when compared to using an app that is running on Windows whilst relying on the Volume Shadow Copy service (VSS) for capturing an image of the actual Windows system partition itself (i.e., the partition on which Windows is actively running during this specific type of backup task, which is also commonly referred to as a "hot backup"). Bootable rescue environment software generally adds significantly fewer complexities that can go wrong, and, also generally, is easier to test for reliability.

Further, one method type does not necessarily have to exclude the other type, as you could always decide to use some combination of both disk cloning through (a) software based feature(s) and disk cloning trough "hardware-only" type of solutions commonly referred to as "duplicators". Due to the fact that each different method can still fail, and can potentially turn out to have its own unique risks like weak points that other methods either might not have or might make you a lot less susceptible somehow, it makes all the perfect sense in the world to rely on the general concept of redundancy also in this regard. That is, not just aim for redundancy solely by choosing to store multiple redundant copies of the same data (typically at least 3, albeit the "3" in "3-2-1 backup" includes the original, or "master" from which the other 2 are copied, i.e. unlike the "3" in "3-2-1-1-0 backup", as the latter "3" does not include the original, I digress...) on various different storage media types, but at the same time also choosing to apply the traditional-old redundancy principle in a broader sense. For reasons that should be completely obvious, like I previously tried to point out, experienced backup specialists don't make these kinds of choices at random excepting only maybe if they plan to sabotage you.

That being said, some (often a bit more expensive) duplicators such as, e.g., the EZ Dupe Leopardo series let you choose between cloning a whole disk and other cloning modes like cloning only the partitioned space or cloning only those specific portions of the partitions that actually are used by the filesystem that it recognizes on each partition or cloning only a specified range. What it doesn't have is the ability to exclude specified folders and files from the cloning. The bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021 does have that ability, and it also is possible to use wildcards to specify these exclusions.

Finally, one of the main reasons why I don't use a duplicator is because there exist other reliable ways to verify that there are no incomplete or corrupted duplicates. As a matter of fact, the bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021 also has that ability, as it has the option to, as an additional last step in the image creation task, verify it by comparing the data in the newly created image file to the original data i.e. by actually reading all of the data again, to be perfectly sure as opposed to cut some corners during verification to desperately try and make up for belonging in the slow camp (like Macrium Reflect, but let's keep this secret).
 

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    FF
If you think duplicators it is the best backup solution why did you ask for a recommendation for a backup solution?
I was trying to break up the monotony here with a little humor, is humor still ok today? :D
 

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Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 ...Intel i7 4790K32GB DDR3 1600 MHzATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
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PC/Desktop
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Alienware PC
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Intel i7 4790K
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ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
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32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
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ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
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Onboard
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SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
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SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
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EVGA 850 watt
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Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
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HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
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Microsoft Wireless
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1.2 GHz
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Chrome..Edge..Firefox
The OS [and apps installed and/or running on it] doesn't come into play in that regard if choosing to use only the bootable rescue environment (e.g., the bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021, which is what I still prefer to use for making full/incremental system backups). Also, the bootable rescue environment software itself is much less prone to glitches or conflicts especially when compared to using an app that is running on Windows whilst relying on the Volume Shadow Copy service (VSS) for capturing an image of the actual Windows system partition itself (i.e., the partition on which Windows is actively running during this specific type of backup task, which is also commonly referred to as a "hot backup"). Bootable rescue environment software generally adds significantly fewer complexities that can go wrong, and, also generally, is easier to test for reliability.

Further, one method type does not necessarily have to exclude the other type, as you could always decide to use some combination of both disk cloning through (a) software based feature(s) and disk cloning trough "hardware-only" type of solutions commonly referred to as "duplicators". Due to the fact that each different method can still fail, and can potentially turn out to have its own unique risks like weak points that other methods either might not have or might make you a lot less susceptible somehow, it makes all the perfect sense in the world to rely on the general concept of redundancy also in this regard. That is, not just aim for redundancy solely by choosing to store multiple redundant copies of the same data (typically at least 3, albeit the "3" in "3-2-1 backup" includes the original, or "master" from which the other 2 are copied, i.e. unlike the "3" in "3-2-1-1-0 backup", as the latter "3" does not include the original, I digress...) on various different storage media types, but at the same time also choosing to apply the traditional-old redundancy principle in a broader sense. For reasons that should be completely obvious, like I previously tried to point out, experienced backup specialists don't make these kinds of choices at random excepting only maybe if they plan to sabotage you.

That being said, some (often a bit more expensive) duplicators such as, e.g., the EZ Dupe Leopardo series let you choose between cloning a whole disk and other cloning modes like cloning only the partitioned space or cloning only those specific portions of the partitions that actually are used by the filesystem that it recognizes on each partition or cloning only a specified range. What it doesn't have is the ability to exclude specified folders and files from the cloning. The bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021 does have that ability, and it also is possible to use wildcards to specify these exclusions.

Finally, one of the main reasons why I don't use a duplicator is because there exist other reliable ways to verify that there are no incomplete or corrupted duplicates. As a matter of fact, the bootable Rescue Media ISO of Acronis True Image 2021 also has that ability, as it has the option to, as an additional last step in the image creation task, verify it by comparing the data in the newly created image file to the original data i.e. by actually reading all of the data again, to be perfectly sure as opposed to cut some corners during verification to desperately try and make up for belonging in the slow camp (like Macrium Reflect, but let's keep this secret).
I understand all of that, so what happens if you encounter a power surge, or lighting strike to the home or business, and it fries your PC and everything in it? Do you unplug the drive/drives you backup to? if not a cloud based backup would be your only savior. I have nothing to sell here, or I have no horse in this race, and I respect whatever anyone wants to use, even a hammer,chisel and stone tablet. I'm just saying the duplicators work best for me personally, I'm certainly not trying to change anyone minds on the backup devices they want to use. Just seems there's a lot of bias here, use what works best for you, personally I switched to stand alone duplicators after to many failed recoveries, so I solved that problem with the duplicators.
 

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Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 ...Intel i7 4790K32GB DDR3 1600 MHzATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
OS
Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Alienware PC
CPU
Intel i7 4790K
Motherboard
ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Memory
32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
PSU
EVGA 850 watt
Case
Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Keyboard
HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless
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1.2 GHz
Browser
Chrome..Edge..Firefox
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