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hey all.

price in Canadian

so i have a question about ram DDR5

so right now i have Crucial Pro DDR5 RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 6400MHz CL38, Overclocking Desktop Gaming Memory, Intel XMP 3.0 & AMD Expo Compatible – Black CP2K16G64C38U5B in my PC it cost me 124.25( with taxes)



CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 AMD Expo Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory – Gray (CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30)- can get this for 152.45



i have a ryzen 7600 and MSI PRO B650M-P(7E27v1H1(Beta version) bios update)



i ran prime95 on blend for 24 hours and it came out with no errors.

should i switch to the 6000mhz cl30?

i read online thats its better to have 6000mhz CL30 ??
 

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MSI PRO B650M-P (7E27v1H1(Beta version) bios update)
 

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It is better to have higher frequency in general for the same latency. The latency goes as as 1/frequency. So the latency ratio for these ram is 30/6000 / 38/6400 or a 14% improvement in latency for the 6000 at best. You'll likely get a few percent at most.

Do you need lower latency ( like a professional gamer) if not keep what you have as it will have up to 7% faster transfer speed. That is what I'd rec.

Tldr you won't see any difference.
 

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ok. what i read on here is the 6000mhz cl30 is better for being stable. but i did run prime95 for 24 hours and it had no crashes
 

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bruno16757 said:
MSI PRO B650M-P (7E27v1H1(Beta version) bios update)
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Look at the CL on the Gskill RAM for the 6000 and 6400Mhz RAM
[tested to work on your motherboard]

G Skill RAM


When the RAM freq. goes up, the CL (and associated timings) will go up as well.
You want the highest frequency with the lowest CAS Latency.

Higher frequency = faster RAM
Lower timings = faster RAM


It seems from your OP, that you already understand this.
I posted the G Skill RAM so you have something to compare to... or buy.



Long story short...
CL 28 is good for 6000Mhz RAM
CL 32 is good for 6400Mhz RAM

You probably won't see better CL at those frequencies, unless you get into overclocking.


Once you find the part number of the RAM you want... post it in the search box (top right-ish), here...

Pick parts. Build your PC. Compare and share. - PCPartPicker

pcpartpicker.com pcpartpicker.com

It will find the best prices. You can change the country at top right if needed.
 
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bruno16757 said:
ok. what i read on here is the 6000mhz cl30 is better for being stable. but i did run prime95 for 24 hours and it had no crashes
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You are fine then. You should have no problems with the ram you have.
 

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If I understand things correctly, DDR5 6400 CL38 would have a latency of 11.9 nanoseconds. DDR5 6000 CL30, 10 ns.

The higher bandwidth of the 6400 would help in some uses. The lower latency of the 6000 might be better in others.

As your PC is stable with the 6400, I think that a switch would not be worthwhile.

The list of tested RAM for your MB includes some DDR5 6400 CL30, but I'm not sure that any of those are available.

G.Skill makes DDR5 6400 CL30, but they only recommend CL32 at 6400 for your MB.

www.gskill.com

RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Find compatible memory kits for your motherboard. Just select the motherboard from the dropdown list and click on Search for a list of compatible G.SKILL memory kits.
www.gskill.com www.gskill.com
 
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bobkn said:
If I understand things correctly, DDR5 6400 CL38 would have a latency of 11.9 nanoseconds. DDR5 6000 CL30, 10 ns.

The higher bandwidth of the 6400 would help in some uses. The lower latency of the 6000 might be better in others.

As your PC is stable with the 6400, I think that a switch would not be worthwhile.
Click to expand...

With either, performance is complicated. You won't achieve the potential performance based on just CAS latency or frequency calculations without tightening dozens of other memory timings. Without tuning those, the difference between the two is lost in the noise.

You are correct for the CAS latency values.
 

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For AMD's Ryzen 7600, I would choose DDR5-6000.
But I'm not very versed in this.
 

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abactuon said:
For AMD's Ryzen 7600, I would choose DDR5-6000.
But I'm not very versed in this.
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Maybe so.

But as "Bruno16757" already has DDR5 6400, and the PC is stable, a swap to 6000 makes little sense.
 

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