Slow Booting Time after Upgrade to 23H2


krishna05 said:
Once u update amd driver to 23.11.1 it will take 2 min to boot with fast startup off whether its 22h2 or 23h2.
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How are you measuring the boot time? I have:
  • Updated to AMD 23.11.1
  • Updated to Windows 11 23H2
  • Disabled fast boot
From a cold boot I was logged in in less than 30 seconds.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Micron DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 16GB (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 980 (1TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    1200Mbps/250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23A300B (23-in LED)
    Screen Resolution
    1080p 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB XPG SX8200 Pro (M2. PCIe SSD) || 2TB Intel 660P (M2. PCIe SSD) ||
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Corsair H60 AIO water cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech K350 (wireless)
    Keyboard
    Logitech M510 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps down / 200 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Elements 12TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
Four machines, 2 Pro and 2 Home meeting proper specs., came with Win10 then upgraded to Win11, no issues running 23H2.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    -
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3700x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte AORUS Pro AC
    Memory
    T-Force DARK Zα 32GB dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Ultrasharp
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 4TB
    PSU
    Cooler Master MWE 650W Gold
    Case
    BeQuiet PURE BASE 500DX Black
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Turbo
    Keyboard
    Tecware Phantom 104
    Mouse
    Logitech G304
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 15ARH05
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 4800H
    Motherboard
    -
    Memory
    16 GB dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    -
    PSU
    -
    Case
    -
    Cooling
    -
    Mouse
    -
    Keyboard
    -
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Laptop I use:
    Lenovo Legion 5 15ARH05
    Spec: https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05/p/88GMY501444
jazzmaster said:
Hi, Greetings from Indonesia.

I've problems after upgrading my Laptop to WIn 11 23H2 manually using ISO (from the Microsoft site).
It makes booting time slower (It almost takes 1 minute), but the task manager shows "Last BIOS Time: 3.8 seconds".

*I mean it happened on the booting screen (Shows the Legion Logo with an animated loading circle below it).
*Sometimes there is stutter/lag on the mouse cursor.
*When clicking on the wifi/sound/battery icon there is lag/freeze till opened only once per restart/reboot/power on.

I've done:
  • SFC & DISM command, nothing worked.
  • I cleaned and reinstalled Graphic Driver using DDU, but nothing worked.
I also disabled fast startup from the beginning, long ago before I did the Upgrade and it is still faster boot up compared to now.
Is there any solution to this problem?

*system specs that I use: Lenovo Legion 5 15ARH05
  • AMD Ryzen 4800H
  • 16 GB of RAM
  • Nvidia GTX 1650 Ti
  • NVMe SSD 512GB for C, Samsung 870 Evo 1TB For D & E.
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After reading this forum and realizing that I have both AMD and Realtek I decided to check if Driver Booster for Steam could do something and yes! It updated a Realtek driver and AMD audio driver (thus a corrupt Bluetooth driver), restarted and it got back to the 10s booting!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 5 A515-45

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    -
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3700x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte AORUS Pro AC
    Memory
    T-Force DARK Zα 32GB dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Ultrasharp
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 4TB
    PSU
    Cooler Master MWE 650W Gold
    Case
    BeQuiet PURE BASE 500DX Black
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Turbo
    Keyboard
    Tecware Phantom 104
    Mouse
    Logitech G304
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 15ARH05
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 4800H
    Motherboard
    -
    Memory
    16 GB dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    -
    PSU
    -
    Case
    -
    Cooling
    -
    Mouse
    -
    Keyboard
    -
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Laptop I use:
    Lenovo Legion 5 15ARH05
    Spec: https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05/p/88GMY501444
jazzmaster said:
I downgraded my driver to 2.9.1 an slow boot issues gone. Just temporary solution till AMD fix new driver.
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I had the problem of slow boots too. I uninstalled all AMD Adrenalin software and drivers, then reinstalled the latest version of Adrenalin Software that I could - that was Adrenalin Edition 23.7.1. See: Latest AMD Radeon Graphics Driver for Windows 11 - post #291

jazzmaster said:
Read here. It has been updated the solution.
Re: Adrenalin 23.9.x Causes Slow Boot/Long time to boot on AMD 5800H Laptop
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Funnily enough, I thought I'd try the fix from there, so I've just let Adrenalin update itself to 23.11.1 to test it. Looks like the Audio CoProcessor driver has been updated, I seem to have ended up with one dated 19th October 2023 now. Didn't need to fix anything, my boot times are normal already.

Screenshot 2023-11-18 003023.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
I found a fix for this problem which completely resolved it for me. At least on my Dell 7490 Laptop the Win 11 23H2 update seemed to trigger the Turbo being full on all the time, even at idle. So, this caused the CPU to overheat and triggered the PROCHOT (processor hot) protection. This throttled my 4 cores back to 400 Mhz from the NORMAL 1.7 Ghz. When Turbo was on all 4 cores ran full out at 3.5Ghz all the time. The fan and cooling managed to keep things working until I would start doing any kind of activity. Then the temp would spike, the PROCHOT would kick in, the cores would all throttle back to 400Mhz.

How was this fixed:

I downloaded ThrottleStop. Then I unselected the BD PROCHOT option (turned it off) and flagged "Disable Turbo". By disabling the turbo option with the PROCHOT option unselected all 4 cores went back to 1.7Ghz and the laptop has not slowed down and has not triggered the PROCHOT protection since then. Performance is really good. Since this is not a gaming laptop, as long as it continues to perform, I don't need turbo (although it would be nice). Things are working fine.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude 7490
Billy said:
I found a fix for this problem which completely resolved it for me. At least on my Dell 7490 Laptop the Win 11 23H2 update seemed to trigger the Turbo being full on all the time, even at idle. So, this caused the CPU to overheat and triggered the PROCHOT (processor hot) protection. This throttled my 4 cores back to 400 Mhz from the NORMAL 1.7 Ghz. When Turbo was on all 4 cores ran full out at 3.5Ghz all the time. The fan and cooling managed to keep things working until I would start doing any kind of activity. Then the temp would spike, the PROCHOT would kick in, the cores would all throttle back to 400Mhz.

How was this fixed:

I downloaded ThrottleStop. Then I unselected the BD PROCHOT option (turned it off) and flagged "Disable Turbo". By disabling the turbo option with the PROCHOT option unselected all 4 cores went back to 1.7Ghz and the laptop has not slowed down and has not triggered the PROCHOT protection since then. Performance is really good. Since this is not a gaming laptop, as long as it continues to perform, I don't need turbo (although it would be nice). Things are working fine.
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What power mode are you running? You might have have been running Turbo mode.

I was running Turbo mode but it was causing the battery to drain too fast so I changed it to Balanced.

Control Panel > System and Security > Power Options
Select Plan
(*)Balanced
( )Silent
( )Turbo
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Micron DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 16GB (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 980 (1TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    1200Mbps/250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23A300B (23-in LED)
    Screen Resolution
    1080p 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB XPG SX8200 Pro (M2. PCIe SSD) || 2TB Intel 660P (M2. PCIe SSD) ||
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Corsair H60 AIO water cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech K350 (wireless)
    Keyboard
    Logitech M510 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps down / 200 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Elements 12TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
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