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The Smart App control function in Security settings has disappeared completely, the option doesn't exist in App and Browser control security settings.
Two PCs in the house running WIndows 11 Release Preview have the issue.

What I discovered: Last week, a new version of the Security app was installed in Windows/System32/SecurityHealth/1.0.2209-22001-0. Both PCs have this folder but my Beta Virtual machine doesn't, and the Smart App control is there.

Restarted PC in Recovery, used command prompt to delete the folder. Rebooted, and the Smart App control was back. A few minutes later, the folder re-appeared and Smart app control is gone again.

Very strange! Also for some reason my About box is showing what's in the pic, the Beta version doesn't show the top two lines under System information.
 
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Windows 11 Release Preview 22621.607

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If you turn on Smart App Control in 22H2, you can only turn it off permanently if it gets in your way. The bad news? You have to do a clean install of Windows to enable it again.

An anti executable shouldn't be an all or nothing proposition. Microsoft should have given users granular control over the feature by default.
 

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NormanF said:
If you turn on Smart App Control in 22H2, you can only turn it off permanently if it gets in your way. The bad news? You have to do a clean install of Windows to enable it again.

An anti executable shouldn't be an all or nothing proposition. Microsoft should have given users granular control over the feature by default.
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Agree. Even if the user gets a warning before turning it back in it would be better than not allowing it
 

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In addition: :alien:

www.elevenforum.com

Turn On or Off Smart App Control in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to manually turn on or off Smart App Control in Windows 11. Smart App Control (SAC) is a new security feature starting with Windows 11 build 22567. Smart App Control can work alongside your other security software, such as Microsoft Defender, for added...
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I turned it on and when Windows restarted, it couldn't boot. Its broken and not ready for prime time.

Does the Microsoft engineering staff ever do quality assurance testing before including a new feature in Windows?

The SAC seems to lock out the boot sequence so you can't boot to the login screen!
 

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BrianInEngland said:
The Smart App control function in Security settings has disappeared completely, the option doesn't exist in App and Browser control security settings.
Two PCs in the house running WIndows 11 Release Preview have the issue.

What I discovered: Last week, a new version of the Security app was installed in Windows/System32/SecurityHealth/1.0.2209-22001-0. Both PCs have this folder but my Beta Virtual machine doesn't, and the Smart App control is there.

Restarted PC in Recovery, used command prompt to delete the folder. Rebooted, and the Smart App control was back. A few minutes later, the folder re-appeared and Smart app control is gone again.

Very strange! Also for some reason my About box is showing what's in the pic, the Beta version doesn't show the top two lines under System information.
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Mine was OFF after the latest IWN11 update. I did a clean install and it was in Evaluation for about a week, now it's back to OFF and I didn't select it, guess my laptop isn't compatible.
 

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CharmaineK said:
it was in Evaluation for about a week, now it's back to OFF and I didn't select it, guess my laptop isn't compatible.
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It's not the laptop, it's the software you use and/or the way you use it. Evaluation mode determined it would get in the way of what you are doing, so it turned itself off.

What makes somebody a good candidate for Smart App Control?

Essentially, we're looking to see if Smart App Control is going to get in your way too often. There are some legitimate tasks that corporate users, developers, or others may do regularly that may not be a great experience with Smart App Control running. If we detect during evaluation mode that you're one of those users, we'll automatically turn Smart App Control off so you can work with fewer interruptions.
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Smart App Control Frequently Asked Questions - Microsoft Support

Frequently asked questions (FAQs) about Smart App Control, a Windows feature designed to block malicious, untrusted, or potentially unwanted apps from running on your device.
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If Optional diagnostic data (Privacy & security --> Diagnostics & feedback) is turned off, windows automatically shuts down SAC. It would be nice (and reasonable) if Windows provided a bit of warning, but so be it. SAC, RIP.
 

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