Some questions about windows 11

Gregory · Sep 27, 2023

Yes i can run rufus 3.20 but without these faction at all.
Doesn't have these fuction the rufux program at win7.

hdmi · Sep 27, 2023

As of December 24, 2022, with the release of version 1.0.86 Ventoy also has both 1/ the built-in option to bypass the checks for TPM, Secure Boot, CPU, and RAM when installing Windows 11 and 2/ the built-in option to bypass the online account requirement of Windows 11 already enabled in it by default.

Ventoy compares to Rufus like a Volkswagen compares to a horse-drawn carriage. With Ventoy all you have to do is just copy the ISO file(s) directly onto the USB flash drive, and you never need to reformat the USB flash drive again. As a result, on your USB flash drive you can choose to additionally store whatever the files you like on it, not having to reformat also means that files don't get removed until you remove them. Among these files can be multiple different ISO files if you want, as Ventoy lets you pick an ISO file from a list of ISO files before it continues to boot straight into that ISO file. It's easier than pie. Just some people on here still keep insisting on doing everything the hard way... persistently.

Gregory · Sep 27, 2023

If i understand fine the ventoy simply remove all security fuctions of evert win10/11 iso files like tpm and secure boot on the fly.
Correct?
Is there something more permanent without needing to this procedure?
Again the rufus i can run it but it doesn't has these fuction to completely remove the tpm and secure boot from iso file.

Gregory · Sep 27, 2023

I find a way to run rufus.
Does rufus has an option to store to an iso and not to an external usb hdd or flash disk?
If i can make rufus create a new iso file from the genuine i download from microsoft site how i do that exactly?

hdmi · Sep 27, 2023

Gregory said:
If i understand fine the ventoy simply remove all security fuctions of evert win10/11 iso files like tpm and secure boot on the fly.
Correct?
Is there something more permanent without needing to this procedure?
Again the rufus i can run it but it doesn't has these fuction to completely remove the tpm and secure boot from iso file.

It is enabled permanently until you decide to actually disable it. See:

Ventoy

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

www.ventoy.net

There is simply no need to make any such modifications to the ISO file. That's just because you can't boot straight into the ISO file if you're not already using Ventoy anyway in the first place. The benefit of being able to boot straight into an ISO file simply by copying the file in question (i.e. as opposed to wiping the entire USB flash drive over and over and over again...) far outweighs all the other alternative options IMO.

spapakons · Sep 27, 2023

Hmm... Ventoy sounds interesting... I might try it. About Rufus 3.20, you don't see any options to remove compatibility check until you click on the START button (in Rufus, not the Windows start button). Then the ISO is examined and if it is detected as a Windows 11 ISO, you are given the choice in form of check boxes. Just check all the boxes to remove all compliance requirements and proceed. That's why I insist on downloading the official Windows 11 ISO. Any other ISO might not be detected properly as Windows 11 ISO and you won't be offered the options to bypass compatibility checks.

Gregory · Sep 27, 2023

Is there an option to completely disable forever the updates cause as i see is to disable it for some days not permanent if you want and after enable it as you want.

spapakons · Sep 28, 2023

To disable updates permanently you need a third party tool such as Windows Automatic Update Manager (WAU Manager). To disable individual updates use a tool such as WAU Manager or the official Microsoft tool Windows Update Show/Hide Tool to hide (block) the respective updates.

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

Why ms doesn't allow you to stop updates permanently without any third part program?
Really why do that?????

Kees · Sep 28, 2023

The network in my system(s)*) always is (are) set for 'metered connection' (although I am on a glassfiber cable).
In that way I can postpone Windows updates to a moment that suits me.
A very seldom time it happened that MS did some update anyway, but mostly it works nicely.
I am never surprized by a message that I have to reset my computer rightaway because of Windows updates.
And it gives me the opportunity to make an image of my system drive if there is some severe update to come.

*) I have beside the Win11 system another system on Win10, there I do exactly the same.

BRAC · Sep 28, 2023

Because MS call the shots. Why? Because they can. They garner a significant chunk of the economic pie together with the other corporate behemoths. That's just the nature of the beast. Pointless bitching about it.

Ventoy, btw is plug and play as it gets. Must be it's Chinese origin.

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

Why with tufus and the options i have at picture during the install process it ask me to add an email account so the installation process continue???
I have choose from rufus don't ask me that at all.

With the ventoy i can simply put a name to my pc and that's it no mail ask me at all.
With rufus i can get rid with this option?
I must put an email account??? I don't have any other option?

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

spapakons said:
To disable updates permanently you need a third party tool such as Windows Automatic Update Manager (WAU Manager). To disable individual updates use a tool such as WAU Manager or the official Microsoft tool Windows Update Show/Hide Tool to hide (block) the respective updates.

Even with this program you tell me i don't see anywhere any option to stop update the win11.
I see only quiet update e.t.c.

I want to total stop the automatic updates from win11.

spapakons · Sep 28, 2023

Gregory said:
Why with tufus and the options i have at picture during the install process it ask me to add an email account so the installation process continue???
I have choose from rufus don't ask me that at all.

With the ventoy i can simply put a name to my pc and that's it no mail ask me at all.
With rufus i can get rid with this option?
I must put an email account??? I don't have any other option?

You see these options when you click on START and if the ISO you are using identifies as Windows 11. If it is a custom ISO and Rufus fails to identify it as Windows 11 you are not offered these options. In such case you can either manually edit the Registry at first Setup screen (for a new installation) or use a script (for a new installation). If you upgrade you can manually replace the apparaiserres.dll file as explained in the respective thread. You don't need a hacked USB flash drive by Rufus. See respective thread for all the hacks.

Fabler2 · Sep 28, 2023

Be aware of this for Windows 7/8

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spapakons · Sep 28, 2023

There is a tutorial in www.tenforums.com of how to obtain a special file containing the digital license for your computer without installing Windows 10 or 11. Save this file on a flash drive and use it anytime to manually activate Windows 10 or 11. I don't recall the tutorial right now, but it shouldn't be difficult to find it.

Fabler2 · Sep 28, 2023

spapakons said:
There is a tutorial in www.tenforums.com of how to obtain a special file containing the digital license for your computer without installing Windows 10 or 11. Save this file on a flash drive and use it anytime to manually activate Windows 10 or 11. I don't recall the tutorial right now, but it shouldn't be difficult to find it.

A Windows 7 or 8 key won't activate Windows 11 anymore.

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

spapakons said:
You see these options when you click on START and if the ISO you are using identifies as Windows 11. If it is a custom ISO and Rufus fails to identify it as Windows 11 you are not offered these options. In such case you can either manually edit the Registry at first Setup screen (for a new installation) or use a script (for a new installation). If you upgrade you can manually replace the apparaiserres.dll file as explained in the respective thread. You don't need a hacked USB flash drive by Rufus. See respective thread for all the hacks.

No it is the genuine iso file i download from ms site.
win11 22h2 64bit Greek.
I tell it many times. I talk about clean install of win11. And i want to find a solution without must edit registry entry's during installation.

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

Fabler2 said:
A Windows 7 or 8 key won't activate Windows 11 anymore.

I never said i want to activate a clean install of win11 with win7 or win8 key.

Gregory · Sep 28, 2023

As i have mention to previews post doesn't let me install "samsung all share" program.
He bring me a windows that the title is "this app blocked for your safety"

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