Solved SSD slow performance after Momentum update never fixed


The suggestion of a clean install was purely as a test.

I did it a few months back when I had a USB port issue on a new motherboard. The problem persisted after a clean install. I restored the OS to my NVME boot drive, and exchanged the MB for a new copy (from the store, as I was within the exchange window). The old Windows install worked OK on the new MB, which confirmed that the old one was defective. (Hasn't failed again, since. Touch wood.)

Restoring the current OS using Reflect would take me about 10 minutes.

The challenge would be if a clean install restored the performance of the SSD. You could try restoring your current OS and trying to fix it, or going to a clean install and rebuilding. I've managed to do most of a rebuilding in a day if I've prepared for it, but it's still a pain.

Looking back over the thread, I see no mention of a repair installation. It may be worth a try. It's almost completely nondestructive. (Some apps may require re-installation, but that's unlikely.)
 

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The suggestion of a clean install was purely as a test.

I did it a few months back when I had a USB port issue on a new motherboard. The problem persisted after a clean install. I restored the OS to my NVME boot drive, and exchanged the MB for a new copy (from the store, as I was within the exchange window). The old Windows install worked OK on the new MB, which confirmed that the old one was defective. (Hasn't failed again, since. Touch wood.)

Restoring the current OS using Reflect would take me about 10 minutes.

The challenge would be if a clean install restored the performance of the SSD. You could try restoring your current OS and trying to fix it, or going to a clean install and rebuilding. I've managed to do most of a rebuilding in a day if I've prepared for it, but it's still a pain.

Looking back over the thread, I see no mention of a repair installation. It may be worth a try. It's almost completely nondestructive. (Some apps may require re-installation, but that's unlikely.)
Thanks again.
Let's wait this weekend for a bit of spare time, and I'll make some test.
 

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That application will never come up with identical data to the manufacturers up to spec of the SSD 3500/2800 MB/s R/W.

Real world tests and use will be lower. Also it is a QLC design which has greater variations in speed.

There is plenty of test data for that SSD. It is not a million miles away from what would be expected.
 

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A clean install will not resolve the drop in performance, see my comments in the Win 10 post.
 

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there was a problem with an update that slowed the system down with applies to AMD and Intel CPU's.
not sure if that is the issue but it effected my Intel M2 type 1TB SSD.
i used this and the system slow down went away, its worth a look.

hope this is of help, best of luck. Steve ..
 

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A clean install will not resolve the drop in performance, see my comments in the Win 10 post.
What post is that?

If it's in this thread, I failed to see it.

If it's in another forum, please provide a link.
 

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What post is that?

If it's in this thread, I failed to see it.

If it's in another forum, please provide a link.
 

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That application will never come up with identical data to the manufacturers up to spec of the SSD 3500/2800 MB/s R/W.

Real world tests and use will be lower. Also it is a QLC design which has greater variations in speed.

There is plenty of test data for that SSD. It is not a million miles away from what would be expected.
Thanks @Helmut.

Yes, this is true, but when I bought the laptop, and since July 2023, the speed test result was quite always like this:

Screenshot 2023-06-07 084511.png

but now is always like this:

Screenshot 2024-07-23 221117.png
 

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there was a problem with an update that slowed the system down with applies to AMD and Intel CPU's.
not sure if that is the issue but it effected my Intel M2 type 1TB SSD.
i used this and the system slow down went away, its worth a look.

hope this is of help, best of luck. Steve ..
Thanks, I tryed, but performance are the same.
 

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Thanks, I tryed, but performance are the same.


The benchmark you are running is: DiskMark64.exe ...correct?

You don't want to run... DiskMarkA64.exe <----- this is for ARM processors.
 

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The benchmark you are running is: DiskMark64.exe ...correct?

You don't want to run... DiskMarkA64.exe <----- this is for ARM processors.
Well, since I have an AMD processor, I have only DiskMark64.exe and DiskMark32.exe, not the ARM version.
 

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Hi guys,

just an update. After Windows 11 24H2 update, the SSD run as fast as before the Momentum update!

Screenshot 2024-10-17 230452.png
 

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