SSD's lower prices When?

Winuser · May 5, 2024

BamaInArk said:
Because it's just the enclosure. You have to provide the M.2 SSD.

That part I know. The part I don't understand is why are they listing it has having 512Gb of memory storage.

Winuser · May 5, 2024

badrobot said:
It's definitely a mistake on that specs sheet. Sellers usually just copy-paste-edit some info but fail to do it right.

I thought that it must be a mistake but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I hope no one buys it thinking it comes with 512Gb of storage.

BamaInArk · May 5, 2024

Winuser said:
That part I know. The part I don't understand is why are they listing it has having 512Gb of memory storage.

As I read that I would assume a 512 GB M.2 is a size limit it supports. Which makes me question it's usefulness.

imanlien2020 · May 5, 2024

Winuser said:
I did a search on the Amazon U.S. site. The Samsung T7 2TB SSD is on sale for $179.99. The original price is $269.99.

Amazon.com

I just bought a samsung T7 1TB portable SSD for 119.00 a few months ago. I also just bought a 4TB Internal card for 250.00 a few weeks ago. And yes I say the same thing. In my head I say, "When can I get say a 10TB card for 100 right..lol."... Well thats a few years off.

Winuser · May 5, 2024

imanlien2020 said:
"When can I get say a 10TB card for 100 right..lol."... Well thats a few years off.

If that ever happens I guarantee I'm going to replace all of my external HDDs.

hdmi · May 5, 2024

Winuser said:
I don't know if @MB11 lives in the US or not. They are looking for a low price external SSD and the 2TB Samsung T7 is on sale for $100.00 off. That may even be more than they want to spend. I have a 1TB T7 and a 2TB T7 and they both work great.

Edit: Almost forgot to mention that they are used for my Macrium images.

Don't be fooled by the fact that it currently has a $100 discount IMO. The Samsung T7 is still only going to give you 10 Gbps speed, or just a tad over 1,056 MB/s sequential write speed to be precise. So, due to the fact that the 2TB WD Blue SN580 currently sells for $114.90 on Amazon in the US, after you add the 40 Gbps enclosure from WAVLINK at $55.99 it will be $170.89 in total vs $179.99 for the 2TB Samsung T7. The SN580 is fast enough to keep up with 40 Gbps so you'll quadruple the speed and even save $9.10 in the process. If your PC only has a 10 Gbps port and you're not planning to get a 40 Gbps port anytime soon, then grab a 10 Gbps enclosure instead of the 40 Gbps WAVLINK, and save an extra ~$38 in addition to this $9.10 difference. Amazon.com

Winuser · May 5, 2024

BamaInArk said:
As I read that I would assume a 512 GB M.2 is a size limit it supports. Which makes me question it's usefulness.

Going by what the specs listed, 2TB is the limit. I think @badrobot is correct and that they just copied and pasted the specs without verifying that they were correct.

Winuser · May 5, 2024

hdmi said:
Don't be fooled by the fact that it currently has a $100 discount IMO. The Samsung T7 is still only going to give you 10 Gbps speed, or just a tad over 1,056 MB/s sequential write speed to be precise. So, due to the fact that the 2TB WD Blue SN580 currently sells for $114.90 on Amazon in the US, after you add the 40 Gbps enclosure from WAVLINK at $55.99 it will be $170.89 in total vs $179.99 for the 2TB Samsung T7. The SN580 is fast enough to keep up with 40 Gbps so you'll quadruple the speed and even save $9.10 in the process. If your PC only has a 10 Gbps port and you're not planning to get a 40 Gbps port anytime soon, then grab a 10 Gbps enclosure instead of the 40 Gbps WAVLINK, and save an extra ~$38 in addition to this $9.10 difference. Amazon.com

I can only speak for myself. I don't have any devices that can use 40 Gbps to its fullness. Even newest desktop can't take full advantage of using 40Gbps. I'm not worried about having drives that are faster then what my systems can handle because I don't see me buying a new computers for a long time. To sum it up, there's nothing wrong with both of our suggestions. It's all up to what @MB11 wants.

badrobot · May 5, 2024

Winuser said:
I can only speak for myself. I don't have any devices that can use 40 Gbps to its fullness. Even newest desktop can't take full advantage of using 40Gbps. I'm not worried about having drives that are faster then what my systems can handle because I don't see me buying a new computers for a long time. To sum it up, there's nothing wrong with both of our suggestions. It's all up to what @MB11 wants.

TBH, I used to be one of those who was crazy about drive speeds maybe a decade ago when SSDs first came out. But I started to realize that it is just a hype and not very advantageous for regular PC gamer that I used to be. And I just recently. I replaced my 1TB SSD data drive with a 2TB spinner drive. I don't care anymore. :wink:

My PC is running on M.2 SSD but that's just it.
Now I have another 1TB SSD paperweight.

hdmi · May 5, 2024

Winuser said:
I can only speak for myself. I don't have any devices that can use 40 Gbps to its fullness. Even newest desktop can't take full advantage of using 40Gbps. I'm not worried about having drives that are faster then what my systems can handle because I don't see me buying a new computers for a long time. To sum it up, there's nothing wrong with both of our suggestions. It's all up to what @MB11 wants.

Reality check... if we can assume that the OP is in the US (which is where that $100 discount on the 2TB Samsung T7 is applicable) and also we can assume that the OP only has a 10 Gbps port, then clearly, what is wrong with your suggestion is that it's still going to be ~$47 more expensive than my suggestion, in spite of the fact that they both are 2TB at 10 Gbps.

trevo · May 5, 2024

jimbo45 said:
and the disgusting trend is that loyal consumers are the worst hit

What exactly is a "loyal consumer"?

hdmi · May 5, 2024

trevo said:
What exactly is a "loyal consumer"?

It's someone who will defend a corporation that would happily snipe your mom for 2¢ additional profit.

JAM83 · May 5, 2024

antspants said:
? Like everything else, prices fluctuate. Especially in the world of computing. When components are harder to come by or there is a demand, prices rise, when not, they drop.

Why don’t you look on Amazon and ask to be informed when there is a price change to items you have saved.
Why don’t you shop around? They’re pretty cheap really compared to yesteryear.
Do you not use Amazon, or Google for that matter?

That's the truth, but it makes no sense. When things are high demand, they jack up the prices to make more money. You would think it would be the opposite.

antspants · May 5, 2024

JAM83 said:
That's the truth, but it makes no sense. When things are high demand, they jack up the prices to make more money. You would think it would be the opposite.

Capitalist exploitation. It isn’t the same for everything, just MOST things.

antspants · May 5, 2024

badrobot said:
TBH, I used to be one of those who was crazy about drive speeds maybe a decade ago when SSDs first came out. But I started to realize that it is just a hype and not very advantageous for regular PC gamer that I used to be. And I just recently. I replaced my 1TB SSD data drive with a 2TB spinner drive. I don't care anymore. My PC is running on M.2 SSD but that's just it.
Now I have another 1TB SSD paperweight.

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They make great external drives if you get a decent USB-C casing.

Winuser · May 6, 2024

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hdmi said:
Reality check... if we can assume that the OP is in the US (which is where that $100 discount on the 2TB Samsung T7 is applicable) and also we can assume that the OP only has a 10 Gbps port, then clearly, what is wrong with your suggestion is that it's still going to be ~$47 more expensive than my suggestion, in spite of the fact that they both are 2TB at 10 Gbps.

There nothing wrong with my suggestion except you putting it down. It's up to the OP to decide if they want to go with one of the suggestion we posted or go with something else.

PGHammer · May 6, 2024

hdmi said:
Nobody can look into the future, but something tells me that your best bet right now is to very regularly keep checking for heavy discounts that will probably appear in various places quasi-randomly toward the end of September till the start of October (or thereabout). This is because some sellers want to make more profit by increasing their sales sooner than the competition when Black Friday is almost on its way so they simply don't wait for that. Other heavy discounts will appear during Black Friday week (which starts on 25 November this year), Black Friday weekend, and Cyber Moday (the latter will be on 2 December this year). Traditionally, Cyber Monday is when even better deals can be found online when compared to shopping at B&M stores on Black Friday, but it's not set in stone, and in recent years especially when you're shopping online it doesn't seem like this tradition is still alive or if it is, it tends to be more in some kind of coma it seems... or else they'll just play some tricks by calling it Cyber week instead and/or whatever it is that they'll come up with next to extend the sales period, like, in some cases all the way till Christmas almost.

The same was true of their non-SSD relations a mere decade ago when I and my mom bought identical 4TB Seagate Barracuda SATA drives for all of $99USD each. (Amazon.com). What was a shocker, especially to me, was despite the drive having four times the storage capacity, it was the same physical size as the drive it replaced, and it also cost less in terms of constant dollars sas well. It was also faster. Yeesh, in other words.

hdmi · May 7, 2024

Winuser said:
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There nothing wrong with my suggestion except you putting it down. It's up to the OP to decide if they want to go with one of the suggestion we posted or go with something else.

Let me put it this way: what specific advantage besides not having to put in that little extra effort that it takes to install the SSD in the enclosure yourself (which should be easy enough to accomplish by just about anyone able to use a precision screwdriver without always breaking stuff) do you think one would be getting for this ~$47 price difference? You said it yourself that they are looking for a low price external SSD. So, my suggestion was to either just pocket the ~$47 difference and simply move on or, if 40 Gbps is better than 10 Gbps (which it is, but you know...), pocket ~$9 difference and simply move on still.

pparks1 · May 7, 2024

In December of 2020, I bought a 2TB WD SN850 and it was $450.

In Dec of 2023, I bought my son a 4TB WD SN850x and it was $275. Today, it's $319.

pparks1 · May 7, 2024

badrobot said:
TBH, I used to be one of those who was crazy about drive speeds maybe a decade ago when SSDs first came out. But I started to realize that it is just a hype and not very advantageous for regular PC gamer that I used to be.

The biggest advantage to SSD's,, IMHO, is the insanely low random access times versus a spinning disk. It doesn't take an SSD 12-15ms to move the head around to locate the data.

The full raw throughput can be advantageous under very specific workloads. For example, if you copy multi TB files regularly, all day long....having a drive that provides 7GB/sec versus 2GB/sec is going to make a very noticeable improvement. But for things look booting your OS, launching an app, or starting a game....generally speaking you aren't going to see massive improvements...in fact you most likely won't see any improvement. (I know, there are a few games out there that have insanely long load times that benefit from higher speed drives...but these are the exception and are not the norm).

I moved my games off my WD2TB SN850 over to a 2TBSATA 3 Sandisk SSD. It's 14x slower, 7,000MB vs 550, but i noticed practically no difference whatsoever. But for my VM's, they are much faster on that NVMe...so i try to dedicate that faster SSD for those types of things and leave my games on the standard SATA SSD.

badrobot said:
And I just recently. I replaced my 1TB SSD data drive with a 2TB spinner drive. I don't care anymore. My PC is running on M.2 SSD but that's just it.
Now I have another 1TB SSD paperweight.

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I've only used spinners when I needed very large capacity (like an 8TB-16TB) to house something in the past 10 years. My son has an 8GB spinner that we use for a "parking lot" for games he isn't actively playing. But we recently replaced one of his 1TB NVME's with a 4TB NVMe for the stuff he is actively using.