StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



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Wonder how (?) to get the " accent color " darker in color ................?
Any idea ??
 

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Allergic to greens?
No, but it has always been a thin line, that indicated the progress. Now it's the whole tab that is got green, if you don't want this new "Plumpness" option.

That does indeed disturb me, don't see any need for that.
I really don't like your attitude to make fun of (licenced) users, that complain about something here!

So I am at the point of returning to Start11, which has much less options, but does not bring so many changes every time again.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
No, but it has always been a thin line, that indicated the progress. Now it's the whole tab that is got green, if you don't want this new "Plumpness" option.

That does indeed disturb me, don't see any need for that.
I really don't like your attitude to make fun of (licenced) users, that complain about something here!

So I am at the point of returning to Start11, which has much less options, but does not bring so many changes every time again.
I agree with the first part.
As for the making fun, judging from the posts here and on that other place, I think Tihiy is going through something, so I am not quick to judge. Not even sure he is actually making fun of anyone, also, given he is the only developer of SAB and there is no data collection, it's hard to know exactly the user preference and so on.
 

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Plump taskbar beta 4​

- Removed Heft

- Icon margins affect vertical taskbar

 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Custom Build
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    Intel Core i9 12900KF
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    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
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    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
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    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
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    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
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    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
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    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
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    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
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    Logitech MK545
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
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    Kaspersky
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    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
StartAllBack 3.9.0.5216 (5 December 2024 beta)

Another Update People
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
I don't have telemetry, but 70% of users are on 3.7.11 and haven't seen green line. Some who do dislike it. It's not my intention to spill sarcasm on feedback.
Well, on 3.7 the users have not seen the light, YET. But once they see the new look of 3.8, who knows what they think ?
I was the same, before seing the slim green bar I did not dislike the flood of green, but now I know better and I have something better (in my opinion, of course) to compare to.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11
I don't have telemetry, but 70% of users are on 3.7.11 and haven't seen green line. Some who do dislike it. It's not my intention to spill sarcasm on feedback.
I'm on 3.8.13. . I must be one of the 30%. . lol
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2017
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 X AOC 27" , PLANAR 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 6TB Toshiba HDD
    ~ 6TB HDD (Backup)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    761Mbps (Download) / 692Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
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    Intel Xeon E3-1246 v3 @ 3.50GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350X
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    onBoard
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    eMachine 22"
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    1920 X 1080
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    250GB SSD
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    Fan
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    Nulea MD280
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
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    I use this computer for photo/video editing and to track severe weather
Same, I didn't like the green (3.7 and before) but I did with it and same thing with Windows until 23h2
And since 3.8 and the little green bar that is much less visible, it's already much better
Yes, as long as we don't try 3.8 (version generally used with 11 24h2) and the new progressbar, 3.7 is fine.

Certainly Microsoft has finally removed this green bar that we had for decades, we will perhaps be lucky to have the same with this software

I'm staying with beta 1 or 2 for the moment to always have the 24h2 style progressbar
 

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    Windows 11 24h2
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    Intel 10980XE
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    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
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    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
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    Dell 27"
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    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
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    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
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    Lian Li A77F
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    Watercooling
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    Logitech MX keys
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    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
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    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Same, I didn't like the green (3.7 and before) but I did with it and same thing with Windows until 23h2
And since 3.8 and the little green bar that is much less visible, it's already much better
Yes, as long as we don't try 3.8 (version generally used with 11 24h2) and the new progressbar, 3.7 is fine.

Certainly Microsoft has finally removed this green bar that we had for decades, we will perhaps be lucky to have the same with this software

I'm staying with beta 1 or 2 for the moment to always have the 24h2 style progressbar
What green bar are ya'll talking about?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2017
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 X AOC 27" , PLANAR 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 6TB Toshiba HDD
    ~ 6TB HDD (Backup)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
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    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    761Mbps (Download) / 692Mbps (Upload)
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    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    HP
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    Intel Xeon E3-1246 v3 @ 3.50GHz
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    eMachine 22"
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    Fan
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    Nulea MD280
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    I use this computer for photo/video editing and to track severe weather
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On SAB 3.7 and 3.9 beta, the progress bar is as displayed above.
On SAB 3.8 and without SAB, the progress bar would be displayed on the thin bottom line, which is full green in the picture above, and the semi-transparent green flood is not there at all.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    Built Myself in 2017
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 X AOC 27" , PLANAR 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 6TB Toshiba HDD
    ~ 6TB HDD (Backup)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    761Mbps (Download) / 692Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Xeon E3-1246 v3 @ 3.50GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350X
    Sound Card
    onBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB SSD
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    I use this computer for photo/video editing and to track severe weather

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Yes, it's good for you, but not everyone shares this opinion
I don't have have the beta. But if i did, those green bars wouldn't bother me. People gripe & complain about the smallest things, I tell ya. . lol
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2017
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 X AOC 27" , PLANAR 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 6TB Toshiba HDD
    ~ 6TB HDD (Backup)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    761Mbps (Download) / 692Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Xeon E3-1246 v3 @ 3.50GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350X
    Sound Card
    onBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB SSD
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    I use this computer for photo/video editing and to track severe weather
I don't have have the beta. But if i did, those green bars wouldn't bother me. People gripe & complain about the smallest things, I tell ya. . lol
These are not complaints, they are "constructive criticism" (if we can say that like that) and since each user has their wishes, opinions, etc... They give it
But it's true that some people don't like criticism, whatever it may be lol
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
There's always a way to get things to look and function the way you want.
I'm ecstatic with SAB's capabilities..., you can't pull off all this sh*t in W11 natively!!!...
(SAB 3.8.11, btw)

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My Computers

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook

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