Strange phenomenon ejecting (or trying to) USB drives


I have a dual bay external M.2's formatted in NTFS connected via 10gbps Type C. And I have the same issues ejecting now that I'm on 24H2 but no issues on 22H2. lol
 

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I have a dual bay external M.2's formatted in NTFS connected via 10gbps Type C. And I have the same issues ejecting now that I'm on 24H2 but no issues on 22H2. lol
Hmm... I have two M.2 drives in external enclosures that are on the same type of connection, I've had no issues ejecting those after I do the backups. I'm thinking you have something that is accessing the disks after they are mounted perhaps running in the background.

I suspect that Sysinternals must have something that will help.
 

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ExFat has no indexing like NTFS. That's where the issue lies probably. I did use the Resource Monitor and showed no handlers on the NTFS thumb drive that I could not eject. I may look into that. Could it be setting I disabled? I can read and write to NTFS fine. Just can't eject.

On your external NTFS drives, I'm curious if you have a recycle bin on those drives that deleted files from the drives go into -or- when you delete something from the drive, it's instantly deleted? Probably doesn't matter anyway.
 

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I formatted a 32GB FLASH drive as NTFS and wrote about 20 MP3 files to it. I then ejected it, no problem at all. I repeated the test with FAT32, then with exFAT, the results are below. Looks like for general use, you might be best with FAT32.

For whatever reason, the FAT32 format has much faster writes on this USB FLASH drive. Oddly, NTFS and exFAT has lousy write performance, FAT32 did four times the write speeds.

USB FLASH exFAT Format.webpUSB FLASH FAT32 Format.webpUSB FLASH NTFS Format.webp
 

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Awesome. Thank you. I went back to NTFS on my thumb drive to run Sysinternals Process Explorer. Both Win11 builds turned up exactly the same system handlers even though I can eject NTFS fine on 22H2 but not 24H2. StrangeGoodPE.webp
 

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What's interesting is, as I mentioned before, I'm able to eject my NTFS formatted removable drive in the first 90 seconds after bootup, but not after that.
 

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What's interesting is, as I mentioned before, I'm able to eject my NTFS formatted removable drive in the first 90 seconds after bootup, but not after that.
I have to believe some process is opening the drive and locking it from being able to eject. That's really the reason that a drive will be unable to be ejected. I'd suspect something you've added since I have no problem ejecting a USB NTFS drive hours or even the next day after it was connected.
 

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