THE LEGENDS


We have three of those in a drawer! All work but batteries don't last long. The software isn't supported any more though.
What software?
Security updates are still coming in.
Banks, news sites, maps, retailers are updating their programs.
Or do you play games on the screen 4''?
Yeah, the battery capacity is low, but everything else is acceptable, especially size.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI MS-7D98
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-13490F
    Motherboard
    MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth Аудио
    Monitor(s) Displays
    INNOCN 15K1F
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
    KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
    Case
    CG560 - DeepCool
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB TKL
    Mouse
    Corsair KATAR PRO XT
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
Here's my "Legend" build... and it's old. It's my 2nd system in my specs.

Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard (1603 BIOS)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
CORSAIR XMS2 (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX

EVGA 01G-P3-1280-AR GeForce GTX 280 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 <-- Ran this for most of the time.
EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 <-- Ran this after I built, my AMD Phenom 955 build.

WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W
ZALMAN 9500A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler 45 CFM at 27db (full speed)
Generic Mid Tower case w/ 5x 80mm case fans [ 2x front intake, 2x rear exhaust, 1x left side exhaust]
ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" CRT Monitor
Generic Altec Lansing Speakers (2)
Logitech Optical M-BT96a
Logitech Classic Keybooard 200





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AMD 5000+ overclock.png




I had overclocked this CPU from 2600Mhz to 3200Mhz.
But I did a Bus Speed frequency overclock rather than a multiplier overclock.

Now, here's the legendary part. I wanted to overclock the 800Mhz RAM and the HT link as well as the CPU.
The magic number for this overclock was 267Mhz, instead of the 200Mhz Bus speed.
And I lowered the default x13 multiplier, by 1... at the default x13 multiplier the CPU (3470Mhz), wouldn't stay stable.

For the CPU... 267Mhz x 12 multiplier = 3204Mhz for the CPU.
And 267Mhz x 4 (set to x4), gave me the 1068Mhz RAM speed and the 1068Mhz HT Link speed.
All by only changing the Bus Speed. It was like a magic motherboard as far as the overclocking numbers went.

Btw... this comp is "still" running today, although I haven't turned it on in forever.
The only reason I haven't turned it on is the 80mm case fans. They are uber-noisy. :-)
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3235 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724
With the development of industry some products emerged that were notorious for their durability, reliability, and performance. A similar phenomena exists in the world of Personal Computers. I thought it might be a good idea to identify some of these "die hards" and discuss some of the ways that we can keep them running. Some of these platforms are still operating after 15 years or more and many of them are capable of running current software, including Windows 11. Now I realize that Windows 11 requires a little tweaking to run on platforms this old, and sometimes those nasty little yellow triangles in Device Manager aren't going to vanish. That aside, I think it's a noble thing to grant credit where it is due. These days anything over ten years is considered vintage in the world of computing. Why not acknowledge some of that old, reliable hardware to promote some of those things that have been tried, tested, and proven to work? We live in an age where e-waste is a growing concern. Finding ways of keeping some of this older, reliable hardware running could be a contribution to a solution. Feel free to share.
Hi there

I'm still running an old HP Proliant Gen 8 Microserver with 32GB RAM which I got for nothing from a company clear out years ago.

I replaced the stupid Celeron processor G1610T with 2X XEON physical processors and for graphics (although not really needed on a server but sometimes handy to gave (a half height Nvidia GEforce GT610 - disabled the onboard graphics). Added a few disk drives and it's still working 100% reliably today running 24/7

--I create a load of Windows VM's on it too -- this machine approx 2014 vintage and MBR only can of course create modern UEFI sec boot Windows VM's with emulated TPM's (good thing about VM's they can do all sorts of stuff that you can't do on the native hardware !!!.The machine can only access USB3 after boot (you can't boot from the USB3 slots but can from the USB2 slots ) and I replaced the built in DVD drive with an SSD.

To boot from this SSD I had to create from the built in RAID controller a 1 Disk RAID 0 array !!! I know bonkers --but otherwise it could not boot from this drive or only as a much slower USB2 drive -- as the original DVD was attached to an internal USB2 port --you don't want to run an OS from a USB2 port - USB3 though is OK --would have had to boot from one of my data drives instead or from an internal SD card --not always the best idea !!.

Running arch linux on it at kernel 6.4.7

HDD config : (The boot disk is /dev/sde

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Absolutely no reason to "bin" this - does it's job perfectly,very quiet, small footprint and runs without problems. To install software I just update remotely via SSH,issue a reboot command and it's done.

I agree with the OP that too many people just chuck out totally functional hardware for almost no reasons at all --OK if you have to have new features -that's fine but likemobile phones --do you really need all the 100% latest gear. A basic home file and multi-media server, backup mechanism and VM server -this is still 100% fine. Most older hardware can be made functional if you sit and think on how to do it --I doubt many would have even thought of creating a 1 Disk RAID 0 array to be able to boot from an SSD replacing the built in DVD drive !!!.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Until recently I had a x58 Asus P6 Deluxe with an i7 990x processor that i later found out was actually an engineering sample. Running with 24GB ram, and 2 gtx 1080tis in Sli. Was a beast, but it was retired now sits in a box. Want to revive it tough but after cleaning the motherboard, it powers on but no longer posts. Also have another machine with a Aanus x99 Deluxe motherboard, with a i7 5930K, which i still use but has been having a few stability issues. Edge will continually crash, and random blue screens, stress testing shows no issues though. Been a bit frustrating.
I'd probably try pulling the SLI first and trying it with just one GFX card. The only possible way up from that i7 990X is getting the famous Xeon chip (see video) and overclocking the snot out of it. Of course your memory could also be a factor. There's a good chance that X58 board is still good. I had a lot of stability issues with the i7 5960K but the 6900K has been rock solid. The X99 platforms from ASUS had several BIOS upgrades if you haven't done that yet you may want to check into it. Hope this helps. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Here's my "Legend" build... and it's old. It's my 2nd system in my specs.


The only reason I haven't turned it on is the 80mm case fans. They are uber-noisy. :-)

I remember that board! It got a lot of rave reviews back in the day. I've never had the honor of working with one but man, those were the days. So glad to see it's still running. Give that Lear jet an occasional test run. The old girl could probably use a little attention. :sneaky:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I remember that board! It got a lot of rave reviews back in the day. I've never had the honor of working with one but man, those were the days. So glad to see it's still running. Give that Lear jet an occasional test run. The old girl could probably use a little attention. :sneaky:



Those were the days. :-)

That was when AMD kicked Intel's butt.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3235 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724
Hi there

I'm still running an old HP Proliant Gen 8 Microserver with 32GB RAM which I got for nothing from a company clear out years ago.


Absolutely no reason to "bin" this - does it's job perfectly,very quiet, small footprint and runs without problems. To install software I just update remotely via SSH,issue a reboot command and it's done.

I agree with the OP that too many people just chuck out totally functional hardware for almost no reasons at all --OK if you have to have new features -that's fine but likemobile phones --do you really need all the 100% latest gear. A basic home file and multi-media server, backup mechanism and VM server -this is still 100% fine. Most older hardware can be made functional if you sit and think on how to do it --I doubt many would have even thought of creating a 1 Disk RAID 0 array to be able to boot from an SSD replacing the built in DVD drive !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

Thanks, Jimbo. This exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about and was hoping people would pick up on here, on this thread. With 32GB of RAM you're set for VM ware and I dare say you have a brilliant approach there for an active OS. Ironically, I'm typing this in Windows 7 on RAID 0 via Hyper X SSDs and it's proven to be the most stable array I've owned! Even IRST runs intact. I boot to it for old time's sake, check my emails, run some scans, check some message boards, and then boot on back to the present day headaches. lol Thanks again for sharing. :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I'd probably try pulling the SLI first and trying it with just one GFX card. The only possible way up from that i7 990X is getting the famous Xeon chip (see video) and overclocking the snot out of it. Of course your memory could also be a factor. There's a good chance that X58 board is still good. I had a lot of stability issues with the i7 5960K but the 6900K has been rock solid. The X99 platforms from ASUS had several BIOS upgrades if you haven't done that yet you may want to check into it. Hope this helps. :)
Since the clean and the no posting of the x58, I no longer run 2 cards. I have actually been testing this system now with a gtx680 that is know to work and have no issues. The x99 platform is updated to the latest bios version.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900KF
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator WiFi
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 4090 Suprim X
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Asus 24". 1 x Asus 32"
    Hard Drives
    Multiple
    PSU
    Corsair 1200HX
    Case
    Corsair 7000D RGB
    Cooling
    Corsair H150I Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M55 RGB Pro
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