Unexpected installation of 2023-12 Cumulative Update (KB5033375)


pokeefe0001

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I have 5 computers, all with Group Policy "Computer Configuration > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage End user experience > Configure automatic updates" set to "2 - Notify for download and auto install". In the past - for many years - this has let me pick when I install maintenance. But for the past few months some maintenance gets automatically installed anyway.

The latest occurrence was just today. My "production" PC is pending restart for installation of 2023-12 Cumulative Update (KB5033375). On one of the other computers that maintenance is waiting for me to click "Download & install" (as is expected); on a 3rd computer it does not show up at all, and I don't have access to the other 2 computers to check right now. All computers are running Windows 11 Pro 22H2 build 22621.2715.

Is there something that can override that Group Policy? Or is there a bug in the implementation of that policy? This has happened 2 or 3 times on 2 of the computers in the past 6 months. I don't think it has ever happened on 2 computers for the same maintenance.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11Intel Core i5-840016GBIntel UHD Graphics 630
    OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 256GB
    WDC 1TB NVMe
    WD 3TB external USB drive
    PSU
    I don't remember
    Case
    Corsair something-or-other
    Cooling
    Air CPU + 2 case fans
    Keyboard
    DAS S Pro (Cherry Brown)
    Mouse
    Logitech USB of some sort
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 21H1i5-840016GBon board
    Operating System
    Windows 10 21H1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homegrown
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    on board
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043 BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB, WDS100T3X0C-00SJG0
    PSU
    don't remember
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 100r
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    DAC something or other
    Mouse
    Logitech M-U-0007
    Internet Speed
    80/6 Mbs
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet security
I got that KB on some of my Win11 machines yesterday [Patch Tuesday] and the Build is now at 22631.2861. Due to the wide-spread number of computers not everyone will get the same updates at the same time.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz12GB
    OS
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz16GBOnboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA a...
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
I got that KB on some of my Win11 machines yesterday [Patch Tuesday] and the Build is now at 22631.2861. Due to the wide-spread number of computers not everyone will get the same updates at the same time.
I'm not concerned about the availability. I want to know why it automatically installed when the group policy should have prevented that until I manually selected "Download and install".
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11Intel Core i5-840016GBIntel UHD Graphics 630
    OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 256GB
    WDC 1TB NVMe
    WD 3TB external USB drive
    PSU
    I don't remember
    Case
    Corsair something-or-other
    Cooling
    Air CPU + 2 case fans
    Keyboard
    DAS S Pro (Cherry Brown)
    Mouse
    Logitech USB of some sort
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 21H1i5-840016GBon board
    Operating System
    Windows 10 21H1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homegrown
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    on board
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043 BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB, WDS100T3X0C-00SJG0
    PSU
    don't remember
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 100r
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    DAC something or other
    Mouse
    Logitech M-U-0007
    Internet Speed
    80/6 Mbs
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet security
It was mentioned some time ago by Microsoft that some of Windows updates will be applied regardless of/disregarding the settings in Windows Updates just as there will be some that can't be uninstalled.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz12GB
    OS
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz16GBOnboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA a...
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro RTM Version 24H2 Build 26100.4202
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
It was mentioned some time ago by Microsoft that some of Windows updates will be applied regardless of/disregarding the settings in Windows Updates just as there will be some that can't be uninstalled.
But this has happened on only one of the two computers that have the update available. Admittedly, the PC where it got installed is on much of the time and the other is usually powered off.

The update is now available on the 3rd computer. It is powered on but asleep most of the time. I'll see what happens on it.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11Intel Core i5-840016GBIntel UHD Graphics 630
    OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 256GB
    WDC 1TB NVMe
    WD 3TB external USB drive
    PSU
    I don't remember
    Case
    Corsair something-or-other
    Cooling
    Air CPU + 2 case fans
    Keyboard
    DAS S Pro (Cherry Brown)
    Mouse
    Logitech USB of some sort
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 21H1i5-840016GBon board
    Operating System
    Windows 10 21H1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homegrown
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H370-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    on board
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 2043 BWX
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB, WDS100T3X0C-00SJG0
    PSU
    don't remember
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 100r
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    DAC something or other
    Mouse
    Logitech M-U-0007
    Internet Speed
    80/6 Mbs
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet security
This is not good news to me because this update installed automatically on two of my Win11 Pro machines -- and hosed up BOTH of them.

On one, since I make weekly image backups, I was able to restore prior to the update and it is working OK again.

On the other, I have other issues to resolve -- since there was worse corruption -- and I am trying to work those before resorting to restoring from a week ago.

I was going to ask about a way to disable Updates -- but it seems from this thread, that this update is going to be forced on folks -- regardless.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11Ryzen 5600X16GBEVGA GT 710
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom built
CPU
Ryzen 5600X
Motherboard
ASRock Steel Legend
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GT 710
Sound Card
None
Monitor(s) Displays
23",24", 19" - flat panels
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
PSU
750W
Case
Antec
Cooling
stock Wraith cooler
Keyboard
Corsair gaming
Mouse
Logitech M720
Internet Speed
1Gb
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