Uninstall Windows Defender

Pablo56 · Oct 28, 2023

Hi. Never used it and prefere Zone alarm anyway. This is a Brand new desktop. I tried to install digigude TV app. Used it for years. Windows defender keeps poping up and saying that it stoped it. I can't be doing with this. There is nothing wrong with digiguide. Windows defender does not give me the opertunity to over rule it.

antspants · Oct 28, 2023

Hi Pablo, welcome to the Eleven Forums

Have you tried these? I can’t remember which tutorial it is that is relevant to your issue.

Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender PUA Protection in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable Microsoft Defender Antivirus Potentially unwanted applications (PUA) protection in Windows 11. Potentially unwanted apps (PUA) aren't malware, but they might display advertising, use your PC for cryptomining, or do other things you'd prefer...

www.elevenforum.com

Turn On or Off Smart App Control in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to manually turn on or off Smart App Control in Windows 11. Smart App Control (SAC) is a new security feature starting with Windows 11 build 22567. Smart App Control can work alongside your other security software, such as Microsoft Defender, for added...

www.elevenforum.com

wiganken · Oct 28, 2023

Are you saying that you have installed Zone Alarm? If so then WD should not be enabled and it may be ZA that is blocking Digiguide. See: -

I don't think you can uninstall WD or disable it yourself. When you install another AV product it becomes the default AV and WD becomes disabled automatically. When you uninstall the AV product WD becomes enabled again.

It is MSs way of ensuring that you always have AV protection. I believe that WD has a fairly good reputation these days although I use Norton 360 instead.

Pablo56 · Oct 28, 2023

Okay. went to control pannel and turned defender off. Not put ZA on yet.

wiganken · Oct 28, 2023

In Control Panel I only see 'Windows Defender Firewall' not 'Windows Defender'? Do you mean you have turned off the firewall?

flashh4 · Oct 28, 2023

@Pablo56 ......... you can not remove it ! It is part of the system from MS ! But you can disable it !

antspants · Oct 28, 2023

wiganken said:
Are you saying that you have installed Zone Alarm? If so then WD should not be enabled and it may be ZA that is blocking Digiguide. See: -

I don’t believe that to be correct. Apps can still be denied. Hence the tutorials by Brink that I posted.

wiganken · Oct 28, 2023

antspants said:
I don’t believe that to be correct. Apps can still be denied

So, you are saying WD can 'deny' (disable?) the Norton 360 that is installed on my machines and continue running WD alone?

Does one have to 'tell' WD to disable other AV products or is it an automatic process? If so I have never experienced it. I have run N360 for years and installing it has always disabled WD.

TairikuOkami · Oct 28, 2023

wiganken said:
I have run N360 for years and installing it has always disabled WD.

MS changed Defender's behavior this summer, it runs nonstop, even with 3rd party AV.

Wisewiz · Oct 28, 2023

Pablo56 said:
Hi. Never used it and prefere Zone alarm anyway. This is a Brand new desktop. I tried to install digigude TV app. Used it for years. Windows defender keeps poping up and saying that it stoped it. I can't be doing with this. There is nothing wrong with digiguide. Windows defender does not give me the opertunity to over rule it.

Sure it does! Download a fresh copy of the app. Open Windows Security > Virus & Threat Protection > Virus & threat protection settings > Exclusions > Add or remove exclusions > Add an exclusion, and add the folder you have the downloaded fresh copy in, and the folder you're going to install it to. Restart Explorer or restart the computer. Now try opening and using the fresh download and putting it where you want it. WD should leave it alone.

antspants · Oct 28, 2023

wiganken said:
So, you are saying WD can 'deny' (disable?) the Norton 360 that is installed on my machines and continue running WD alone?

Does one have to 'tell' WD to disable other AV products or is it an automatic process? If so I have never experienced it. I have run N360 for years and installing it has always disabled WD.

I’m not saying that at all, and I don’t believe the issue has anything to do with 3rd party AV

Pablo said an app is being denied By defender.

Pablo56 said:
Windows defender keeps poping up and saying that it stoped it. I can't be doing with this. There is nothing wrong with digiguide. Windows defender does not give me the opertunity to over rule it.

This has nothing to do with a 3rd party Antivirus that I am aware of. It’s a built in defence by MS, hence the tutorials.

I could be wrong, but not in my case. I also run a 3rd party antivirus and I have still had to use Brinks tutorials.

Wisewiz · Oct 28, 2023

TairikuOkami said:
MS changed Defender's behavior this summer, it runs nonstop, even with 3rd party AV.

I don't think that's true. I recently had a support issue with Malwarebytes Premium on two computers, and had to re-install Malwarebytes a time or two. With each install, WD shut down as soon as MWB opened, and only when I got into the MWB controls and turned OFF the "Always register in the Windows Security Center" control did WD come back to life.

It's true that WD and MWB run happily together and complement each other, but that switch in MWB HAS to be OFF.

antspants · Oct 28, 2023

I didn’t think that Smart App Control or the PUA Protection had anything to do with running a 3rd party antivirus software? That it would protect the PC regardless until it was switched off?

NonGravis · Oct 29, 2023

Ghost Spectre offers Windows 11 without defender. Think 125-130 running processes and 2.9GB at idle, as opposed to 200+ processes and 4.8GB with the typical factory install. Most viruses come being stupid on the internet anyway. If you use Firefox with Ublock origin, don't look at porn or download pirated media, and use a VPN, you don't really need an antivirus.

JAM83 · Oct 29, 2023

Pablo56 said:
Hi. Never used it and prefere Zone alarm anyway. This is a Brand new desktop. I tried to install digigude TV app. Used it for years. Windows defender keeps poping up and saying that it stoped it. I can't be doing with this. There is nothing wrong with digiguide. Windows defender does not give me the opertunity to over rule it.

I use Defender Control to completely disable it. I also have Registry Entries that I add just for extra measures.

Defender Control v2.1

In Windows there is no option to completely turn off Microsoft Defender , Defender control is a Portable freeware to disable Ms Defender.

www.sordum.org

suparoo · Oct 30, 2023

5 Ways to Permanently Disable Microsoft Windows Defender

I haven't tried any of these myself.

Wisewiz · Oct 30, 2023

I use and very much like Defender Control, but always only to turn off WD for a minute or two, while I do something, and then I turn it back on. Unfortunately, Sordum has said that development of the utility has ceased. I think I’ll keep using it until it no longer works.

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