Solved What does Windows Defender lack, what can’t it do?


My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail. Thanks for the responses. 🙏
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3880
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail. Thanks for the responses. 🙏
Defenders is plug and play pretty much.

The main thing I turn off is smartscreen as it gets very annoying blocking just about any exe download until you confirm it is safe.

However I do not recommend turning it off for any user unless they understand the risks and take suitable protection e.g. regular image backups.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Defenders is plug and play pretty much.

The main thing I turn off is smartscreen as it gets very annoying blocking just about any exe download until you confirm it is safe.

However I do not recommend turning it off for any user unless they understand the risks and take suitable protection e.g. regular image backups.
I totally agree, thanks cereberus. I turn it off because it is annoying. And you’re right, I’d rather get a phone call once a day from this person asking me what to do or to confirm, than leave it off for them. 🙏
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3880
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Comparative tests are really 100% U/S. For starters they are usually done many days or even weeks in the past - and new nasties can appear at any time. WD is often updated 5 times in a week - and no 3rd party vendor will be able to test their products on new insider windows builds for a period after that too.

For domestic users WD is as good as it gets - most of those other 3rd party products are essentially solving a C20 problem when Windows was as leaky as a sieve. There's utterly no need for any of these for domestic users - certainly not for technological reasons.

If people feel paranoid and want extra security -- then that's fine if it gives you extra piece of mind but its not actually buying you anything on a technical level other than possible performance issues and potential problems with next windows update or release - especially if using insider versions.

Corporates, large LAN operators, web site operators etc have other issues - but for domestic users WD is fine,

Cheers
jimbo

It doesn't matter if one can be hit with older malware, and the tests include consumer markets.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    i5-13400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B-760M
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27 gaming
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2 TB M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 700W
    Case
    DarkFlash C285P
It doesn't matter if one can be hit with older malware, and the tests include consumer markets.
Not an answer -- since WD works -- and is updated regularly so what the magazine voted or suggested was the most effective in say July isn't valid in September for example.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
He could add Malwarebytes free as an on demand scan as well as defender. Turning off all the things in settings so it doesn’t keep nagging to upgrade or running in the background.

Defender is supposed to be pretty good. It’s possible it might miss something Norton would pick up - but then he could run Malwarebytes now and then to check and/or remove and quarantine anything that got through.

Depends if his usage is of a risky type as well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail.
Defender is not user friendly, but sadly other free AVs require user's interaction to keep it activated after a year or so.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
    Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 7 NFC (05/24)
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
    2nd Monitor: AOC G2460VQ6 @75Hz (02/19)
I too use Windows Defender exclusively as my AV. I do have Privazer but thats more for privacy than AV. If I'm ever suspicious of something or how my machine is acting I use the Eset online scan. Its free and very comprehensive. It can be used once a month, totally free.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 G Skill Ripjaws
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 3050
    Monitor(s) Displays
    144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2400 512gb ssd
    Case
    Absolutely beautiful lol
    Mouse
    Logitech 305
    Browser
    Edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Not an answer -- since WD works -- and is updated regularly so what the magazine voted or suggested was the most effective in say July isn't valid in September for example.

Cheers
jimbo

According to AV Comparatives, it still gets compromised with older malware, etc.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    i5-13400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B-760M
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27 gaming
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2 TB M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 700W
    Case
    DarkFlash C285P
3rd party apps that do the same thing. All they do is bloat your system and slow it down, so it makes sense to stay with WD IMHO.
Webroot has less impact on performance than Defender so your generalisation is not helpful.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 OS build 22631.3810
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    13Mbps
    Browser
    Brave, Edge or Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
Halo.

I have a friend that has no money and cannot renew their antivirus Software. (Norton 360)
Normally I would just buy it for him as I buy software for other friends but this person is broke due to a fetish with tattoos and as a result his family goes without. I will not invest in his tattoos.

So, as I have read in here some comments from those of you who love or proffer to use Windows Defender, I was hoping you’ll could tell me:
What if anything does it lack?
Is there a best practice for running it?
If the person was to open a file, start a program or open a corrupted zip file that was malicious, what would defender do?


I probably have more questions but as I have never used anything but 3rd party software, I can’t think of them right now.

Thanks 🙏

95% of the time, it's the PC owner's behavior that results in infections. The other 5% involves a physical attack, and / or other owner actions that would not be considered reckless. I use Kaspersky because it does provide some additional protection on top of Microsoft Defender Antivirus. I leverage both of them, and have them both active on my system.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Been using Defender & Malwarebytes Premium since 2018, and not one issue, and Malwarebytes always finds nothing when i scan with that so think Defender is doing a terrific job, but im not as reckless online as i was in my younger years.

Stopped using 3rd Party Antivirus in 2018, and haven't hardly had any issues besides a false positive here and there, but that is fixed usually really quick and go about my business

As well as Got Backup software now and make sure to do my Backups, and think i'm safe as can be these days without going too crazy and having too much protection.

"Back in 2005 when i signed up to test Windows Live One Care---i was very reckless tester, and got a zipped folder from so called Online Friend in 2D Chat program, and idiot me opened it, and really infected my at the time AMD Athlon XP 2500+ system, it was so bad local shop couldn't even clean it up, in the end after having to take it back to shop a few times, finally they said "only way to fully clean this up is replace your Motherboard, CPU, Ram, Hard drives, and video card with new & used parts, and that should clear the infection and was informed do not restore any backups i had then made with Windows Live Onecare. Ended up with Sempron Processor, lower amount of ram, Seagate Hard drive and Maxtor and 9800XT Radeon video card at the time
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PreBuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7700XT
    Motherboard
    MSI B650 VC WIfi
    Memory
    32GB DDR 5 RGB 5600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 7800XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VG245H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 1TB Boot NVMe
    Samsung 860 Evo 1TB-Game SSD


    External
    Western Digital Elements 500GB
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB
    Toshiba 2TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 8TB in External Enclosure
    Western Digital My Book 8TB (Primary Backup drive)
    PSU
    750 Watt High Power
    Case
    Lian Li Lan Cool 216 ARGB Airflow
    Cooling
    2 160MM Front, 1 140MM Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech G513
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1000Mb/20 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0, Macrium 8.1 Home Edition
Microsoft Defender For Business brings enterprise grade security to Microsoft Defender. The price is cheap - $3 a month for up for up to 5 endpoints you on board with a simple script.

Prebuilt default polices are fine for the vast majority of users.

Microsoft built a central cloud console to administer it. Before, everything was scattered all over Microsoft 365.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Re using Microsoft Defender for Business. It isn't the same thing as the version of Defender in Windows 11. It is business\enterprise level technology that requires good IT administration skills to configure and maintain. It also cannot be setup using a standard Microsoft Account.

I use it because when I retired a couple of years ago (was self-employed) I retained my Microsoft 365 Business subscription, and it suited my needs to keep it as I have my own custom email addresses in Exchange Online with my own domains that I still use.

I would not recommend Defender for Business for the average user (consumer). It would be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2002
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External Fiio K5 Pro ESS DAC - Headphone Amplifier
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
I've found onboarding with MDfB on my endpoints a painless and simple affair. The local script in the cloud console is sufficient.

As for being complicated, the setup wizard that provides the default policies makes setting them up a breeze. Most people don't need to modify them.

For the price, the protection is superb.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
It can't let your computer breath and run at it's full potential, my computer finds it to be too restrictive. I went back to Webroot and dumped Avast, now we're running at near full speed when needed.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 1760 UA92
    CPU
    12th Gen i5-12400
    Memory
    16gb Crucial 3200MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Amazon Omni Fire tv 4K 55"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Kingston NVME M.2 1tb
    Samsung 850 1tb sata
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    1 Internal Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    300Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    10th Gen i-7, 4-core 8-threads, turbo to 3.9GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus
    Hard Drives
    500gb M.2
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
I've found onboarding with MDfB on my endpoints a painless and simple affair. The local script in the cloud console is sufficient.

As for being complicated, the setup wizard that provides the default policies makes setting them up a breeze. Most people don't need to modify them.

For the price, the protection is superb.

And how would you get set up for something like that?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro
    Memory
    16GB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ExpertBook
    Memory
    16GB
It doesn't butter my toast, but besides that it does everything I want/need to do pretty nice. All I have used for years besides Malwarebytes free as a "second opinion"
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.9/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    64GB (2x32) G.skill Trident Z5 RGB 6400 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio, Vanatoo Transparent One; Klipsch R-12SWi Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black
    PSU
    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 1 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
    Keyboard
    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    380 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect 8 ;-)
    Other Info
    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
To recap and add to my previous points:

There may now be malware that don't require user intervention. That means you don't need to do anything for it to attack.

More are attacking what you think are legitimate sites, legitimate software, and legitimate servers used by legitiminate sites. The ones managing thse sometimes don't know that their sites or software are infected until much later.

Malware can now operate in the background, without you knowing it, and stealing your information. That means you won't know if protection is good enough because you won't be able to tell that your system has been infected.

Backups will help you restore your data but won't reverse stolen information.

Aside: more information is now stolen even though it's not your fault. That means your info given to banks, various companies, etc., may be stolen.

Malware might now be able attack embedded software directly, or the software found in your devices regardless of the system that you use.

Security programs are by default intrusive. Also, many countries engage in privacy intrusion. Look up "eyes nations".

The cost of buying security programs might be high if you have to buy for many devices. There may be volume discounts, but the cheap price for the first year might be part of a promo. For some programs, you can buy legit serial numbers in some stores, and then insert them in your security program when the one you're using is about to expire.

Finally, if you want to find out which are the best, then check tests for performance or system impact, protection, etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    i5-13400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B-760M
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27 gaming
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2 TB M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 700W
    Case
    DarkFlash C285P

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