What if I install Windows 11 without TPM 2.0 on and many other things by using Rufus on instead Supported PC?


peter2

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You may ask why well because I only want one partition

Reason too being is I want a MBR partition or be able to use a older MBR partition and have only one partition sorry.

My main question is will this create any issues in the future with anything?

Anything at all.
 

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No no talking about this.

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See where it is C my Windows 11 drive (OS & Applications)

Will that prevent any windows updates or anything in the future ?
 

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See the 4th link in the prior post:

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Devices that do not meet these system requirements will no longer be guaranteed to 
receive updates, including but not limited to security updates.



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The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet 
the minimum system requirements:

This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements 
help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. 
Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. 
If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. 
Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.
 

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Microsoft Defender
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Mobile Workstation
See the 4th link in the prior post:

Code:
Devices that do not meet these system requirements will no longer be guaranteed to
receive updates, including but not limited to security updates.



Code:
The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet
the minimum system requirements:

This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements
help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience.
Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues.
If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates.
Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.

Ok thanks that helps with the two super old laptops I have with Windows 11 Pro on but not my "Supported" Windows 11 new PC I installed Windows 11 like this on. I know I know that is stupid.
 

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Probably be fine. The MS blurb seems to indicate that maybe at some point in future ms will issue new feature that requires particular cpu functions, which won't therefore be offered to people running older machines. Whether using mbr disk will have any effect on that, we don't know.

You should be able to convert your current os disk to gpt and use efi boot if that makes you happier. The mbr2gpt will probably work from the looks of your diskmgmt.

looks like your osdisk is just one partition system, active and boot. I don't think mbr2gpt should have any difficulty with it. Though it will create new partitions on that disk.
 

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Probably be fine. The MS blurb seems to indicate that maybe at some point in future ms will issue new feature that requires particular cpu functions, which won't therefore be offered to people running older machines.

Hmm ok.
 

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Go for it! its what I did even though I technically have TPM. I'm running a custom Build right now of Windows 11 Pro called Phoenix lite OS. It comes with most all of the bloatware apps including Edge and Cortana completely removed. Windows Defender is disabled but can be re-enabled if desired. It has Pre-Optimized services, registry and task scheduler configurations with Telemetry completely disabled. So any unnecessary items that would normally be running eating up system resources with no user benefit are disabled. And can receive updates like a regular copy of Windows. But by default the updates are paused until 2099. and comes pre-installed with Start All back, Ultra UX Theme Patcher and Winaero Tweaker. The ISO is only about 2GB and fully installed around 4GB much lighter than a traditional install and much more efficient. The only thing it can't do that traditional Windows install can is take up a lot of space and system resource power for no reason.
 

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(Modified) Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF
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Core i3 3220 Overclocked (circuit level hardware hack)
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OEM
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8Gb DDR3 made by some random manufacturer most likely Samsung
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Intel HD 3000 dual display Integrated (using an unsigned driver by choice)
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OEM
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Genaric 20in HDTV as Main and HP 2009m LCD Monitor as second
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1920x1080 main and 1024x1816 (Vertical with custom Resolution) for second
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120Gb Kingston SATA SSD, 1Tb Toshiba SATA HDD and 4Tb Western Digital usb storage
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I don't know some fan it spins
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don't know but i seen it pull 7Ms so fast I guess
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No we dont do that. I find that antivirus and antimalware software is more damaging and evasive than most of the thing they remove.
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Experience so far is that you will continue to receive the monthly updates but not the annual upgrades. If you wish to upgrade you will need to use an ISO to do an in place upgrade and bypass the restrictions again.
 

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Experience so far is that you will continue to receive the monthly updates but not the annual upgrades. If you wish to upgrade you will need to use an ISO to do an in place upgrade and bypass the restrictions again.
By then I always feel the need to do a fresh install anyway so I don't feel like that would be too big of an issue. and surprisingly this old machine actually meets all the requirements (barely) I just kind of choose to run on a Legacy master boot record without a the TPM system. There's really no benefit for me in using the GPT UEFI secure boot as far as I can see and I'd rather have control over my Windows startup logo then use that boring dell logo all the time.
But if I had to I'd switch back over to the secure boot
 

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Custom Windows 11 Pro The Phoenix Lite OS Neon Gamer Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
(Modified) Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF
CPU
Core i3 3220 Overclocked (circuit level hardware hack)
Motherboard
OEM
Memory
8Gb DDR3 made by some random manufacturer most likely Samsung
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000 dual display Integrated (using an unsigned driver by choice)
Sound Card
OEM
Monitor(s) Displays
Genaric 20in HDTV as Main and HP 2009m LCD Monitor as second
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 main and 1024x1816 (Vertical with custom Resolution) for second
Hard Drives
120Gb Kingston SATA SSD, 1Tb Toshiba SATA HDD and 4Tb Western Digital usb storage
PSU
gesundheit
Case
A Small one
Cooling
I don't know some fan it spins
Keyboard
Run of the mill wireless Logitech
Mouse
Razer - Naga Classic Edition 19 Button Programable w\LED Effects
Internet Speed
don't know but i seen it pull 7Ms so fast I guess
Browser
Brave Beta
Antivirus
No we dont do that. I find that antivirus and antimalware software is more damaging and evasive than most of the thing they remove.
Other Info
Do not fear the registry, for contains all of the answers.
Hi,
Well if there is any future issue just restore a system image back to when there wasn't a problem turn off win updates and someone will eventually find a way to install the update without having the issue.

I leap frog over all win-11 requirements even the ones I can be compatible with so when the day comes ms desolves incompatible machines I'll be effected probably temporarily
If longer there is always 10 which I keep on separate ssd ;)
 

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1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
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2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
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1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
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D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
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Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
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G710+x3
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Redragon x3
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xfinity gigabyte
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Firefox
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mbam pro
Hi,
Well if there is any future issue just restore a system image back to when there wasn't a problem turn off win updates and someone will eventually find a way to install the update without having the issue.

I leap frog over all win-11 requirements even the ones I can be compatible with so when the day comes ms desolves incompatible machines I'll be effected probably temporarily
If longer there is always 10 which I keep on separate ssd :wink:
Not really an issue with the operating system the biggest danger to this Windows setup is usually me I tend to do things most users don't but not for no reason all to gain first-hand knowledge and to learn what windows can actually handle as opposed to just what what we're told it can. so crashing this thing it's kind of a regular thing for me but my setup allows for quick recovery. I just restoring a backup disk image I take nightly so it doesn't bother me.
 

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Custom Windows 11 Pro The Phoenix Lite OS Neo...Core i3 3220 Overclocked (circuit level hardw...8Gb DDR3 made by some random manufacturer mos...Intel HD 3000 dual display Integrated (using ...
OS
Custom Windows 11 Pro The Phoenix Lite OS Neon Gamer Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
(Modified) Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF
CPU
Core i3 3220 Overclocked (circuit level hardware hack)
Motherboard
OEM
Memory
8Gb DDR3 made by some random manufacturer most likely Samsung
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000 dual display Integrated (using an unsigned driver by choice)
Sound Card
OEM
Monitor(s) Displays
Genaric 20in HDTV as Main and HP 2009m LCD Monitor as second
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 main and 1024x1816 (Vertical with custom Resolution) for second
Hard Drives
120Gb Kingston SATA SSD, 1Tb Toshiba SATA HDD and 4Tb Western Digital usb storage
PSU
gesundheit
Case
A Small one
Cooling
I don't know some fan it spins
Keyboard
Run of the mill wireless Logitech
Mouse
Razer - Naga Classic Edition 19 Button Programable w\LED Effects
Internet Speed
don't know but i seen it pull 7Ms so fast I guess
Browser
Brave Beta
Antivirus
No we dont do that. I find that antivirus and antimalware software is more damaging and evasive than most of the thing they remove.
Other Info
Do not fear the registry, for contains all of the answers.
Hi,
Yeah there are lots of rebels so no worries :D
 

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z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
Memory
Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek x3
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
Hard Drives
2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
PSU
1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
Case
D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
Cooling
Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
Keyboard
G710+x3
Mouse
Redragon x3
Internet Speed
xfinity gigabyte
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Firefox
Antivirus
mbam pro
ATM I'm more interested in the crappy micro code update ms installed that has my machine 3-4c hotter.
 

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Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
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10900k & 9940x & 5930k
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z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
Memory
Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek x3
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
Hard Drives
2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
PSU
1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
Case
D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
Cooling
Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
Keyboard
G710+x3
Mouse
Redragon x3
Internet Speed
xfinity gigabyte
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
mbam pro
Experience so far is that you will continue to receive the monthly updates but not the annual upgrades. If you wish to upgrade you will need to use an ISO to do an in place upgrade and bypass the restrictions again.

Makes sense thanks.

Annual upgrades are not that big of a deal. I can always do them like you said.

Not like it is every week or month.
 

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