Whether to switch from Macrium Reflect (MR) to Hasleo Backup Suite (HBS)


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I know there are other threads on Hasleo Backup Suite but this is a specific query regarding HBS not supporting external SSDs for Emergency Disks.

I have been using MR (Paid versions) for almost 5 years but I am considering moving to HBS due to Paramount not fixing the issue with being unable to mount images since Microsoft updated Windows 11. Questions that follow aren't a gripe at Paramount but about HBS before I make the swap: -

With MR I used its Rescue Media to create two 500GB bootable external USB SSDs. This created a 2GB FAT32 partition on each SSD and the remaining 498 GB is formatted NTFS for image storage. The SSDs both boot successfully and I can access the images on the NTFS partition. This means I only have to plug in one device for booting and access to images.

I have two external SSD devices in case one becomes corrupted.

I understand the HBS does not support external USB SSD devices for creating Emergency Disks. HBS only supports external USB sticks up 32GB formatted FAT32. This means having to plug in two devices to restore an image. The bootable USB stick and the USB SSD containing the images.

Q1 - Is this correct?

If so then this is an inconvenience imo compared to MR. Some may think nothing of it but it is putting me off moving to HBS. Maybe I’m over reacting to a small detail but I find it very easy to need just one device rather than two.

Q2 - Is my strategy of needing just one device (I have a second device in case the first one fails to boot) for both booting and storing images as safe as needing two devices?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    GMKtec K11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 SO-DIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon 780M (4.00 GHz)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 2250HM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
Well... I've looked just outside of your imaging application box a bit (the app being responsible for both the emergency media generation and producing a format necessary for image storage as well) and came up with VENTOY, a multi-BOOT solution.

It allows for the multi-BOOTing of almost every ISO ever made (and most of the WIMs contained within the ISO itself), a separate partition to store all those BOOTing requirements AND another separate partition (use as you wish) for the storage of your images (or anything else you may require on that storage media). It can produce UFDs or USB-based SSDs.

In my case, all my "external" BOOTing requirements are contained on that device (imaging, partitioning, diagnostics, etc.) and BOOTing device mgmt is accomplished by nothing more than replacing the required ISO/WIM file... the device does not need to be rebuilt.

Probably one of the best solutions for multi-BOOTing (or in your case, BOOTable devices and imaging storage). I've used it for years now without issue...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Linux MINT (Guests 7, 11, ZorinOS)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" (Viewsonic) UHD
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    2-NvME (mainboard), 1-NvME (PCIe), 1-SATA3 SSD
I understand the HBS does not support external USB SSD devices for creating Emergency Disks. HBS only supports external USB sticks up 32GB formatted FAT32. This means having to plug in two devices to restore an image. The bootable USB stick and the USB SSD containing the images.

Q1 - Is this correct?
I don't use a one disk solution, but I have a 512GB FLASH Disk on my video controller mini-PC that is formatted NTFS for the Hasleo Backup and it works fine. I didn't bother having it bootable as I have a Hasleo recovery disk for several computers.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
Well... I've looked just outside of your imaging application box a bit (the app being responsible for both the emergency media generation and producing a format necessary for image storage as well) and came up with VENTOY, a multi-BOOT solution.

It allows for the multi-BOOTing of almost every ISO ever made (and most of the WIMs contained within the ISO itself), a separate partition to store all those BOOTing requirements AND another separate partition (use as you wish) for the storage of your images (or anything else you may require on that storage media). It can produce UFDs or USB-based SSDs.

In my case, all my "external" BOOTing requirements are contained on that device (imaging, partitioning, diagnostics, etc.) and BOOTing device mgmt is accomplished by nothing more than replacing the required ISO/WIM file... the device does not need to be rebuilt.

Probably one of the best solutions for multi-BOOTing (or in your case, BOOTable devices and imaging storage). I've used it for years now without issue...
In my case, both HASLEO and MACRIUM (primary and backup imaging methods) are supported using the single VENTOY functioning multi-BOOT environment.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Linux MINT (Guests 7, 11, ZorinOS)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" (Viewsonic) UHD
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    2-NvME (mainboard), 1-NvME (PCIe), 1-SATA3 SSD
If you want to consider alternative strategies:

- An internal secondary disk as the main storage. Internal buses are better for massive data.

- Copy the images to external disks. I use 2 high quality 256 GB pendrives alternately.

My technical (installers, documents,...) and personal data is in a partition of the same internal secondary disk. I backup it as files using a synching program, so I don't depend on imaging for this.

If you have a big and very reliable internal disk you can also do a partition instead of installing a second disk. I've done this during my "HDD age", that was also an "invulnerable disks age" (I haven't lost any SSD either, but I only use 2, only since 4 years ago and both are 2.5" SATA).

In laptops another internal thing may be a problem in itself, but in desktops an internal secondary disk is unbeatable in all aspects. Higher rate of failures, robberies, physical accidents etc that way? Normally it's the other way round if anything.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Manufacturer/Model
    MeLE Quieter 2Q (fanless miniPC)
    CPU
    Celeron J4125 (10th gen)
    Memory
    8GB DDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster T260
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    256GB eMMC (Windows)
    2TB USB3 HDD Toshiba (Data)
@Froggie - Thanks but I want to keep it simple and VENTOY is another complication I don't want.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    GMKtec K11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 SO-DIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon 780M (4.00 GHz)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 2250HM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
An internal secondary disk as the main storage.
Thanks for the suggestion. My devices are newish and under warranty so I won't be considering adding extra internal SSDs until out of warranty. Possibly never, as it's another complication.

Copy the images to external disks.
Some users say not to rely on the copying process. Corruption can happen in the copy and paste process and there is no verification to check the integrity of the copied image.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    GMKtec K11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 SO-DIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon 780M (4.00 GHz)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 2250HM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
Hasleo will write a rescue ISO and you could use Rufus to make that into a bootable USB SSD. I just add Hasleo to the Windows Boot menu.

But Hasleo won't write a bootable USB SSD directly.

But it will probably work if you create a Small FAT32 partition on the SSD and a larhe NTFS partition for the backups. I will test this now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8524
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8524
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
In my case, both HASLEO and MACRIUM (primary and backup imaging methods) are supported using the single VENTOY functioning multi-BOOT environment.
Yes , using them both , with Ventoy !
If one fails , the other will resque me.......... :wink:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
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