Who's Keeping Windows 11?


Josey Wales said:
When you supply yours.?

www.zdnet.com

Windows 11 has advanced hardware security. Here's how to get it in Windows 10 today

The best parts of Windows 11 are already in Windows 10. You just have to enable them.
www.zdnet.com www.zdnet.com

www.elevenforum.com

Enable DNS over HTTPS (DoH) in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to change your DNS Server address and enable DNS over HTTPS (DoH) in Windows 11. A DNS (Domain Name System) server is the service that makes it possible for you to open a web browser, type a domain name and load your favorite websites. DNS over HTTPS (DoH), or...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
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DNS over HTTPs on Windows 10:
www.bleepingcomputer.com

How to enable DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) in Windows 10

DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) allows DNS resolution to be performed via the HTTPS protocol rather than through the normal plain text DNS lookups.
www.bleepingcomputer.com www.bleepingcomputer.com

And from the very link that you were so nice to supply:
www.zdnet.com

Windows 11 has advanced hardware security. Here's how to get it in Windows 10 today

The best parts of Windows 11 are already in Windows 10. You just have to enable them.
www.zdnet.com www.zdnet.com

As it turns out, all of these features are already built-in to Windows 10 if you are running the 20H2 release (Windows 10 October 2020 Update).
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Next?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
NavyLCDR said:
DNS over HTTPs on Windows 10:
www.bleepingcomputer.com

How to enable DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) in Windows 10

DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) allows DNS resolution to be performed via the HTTPS protocol rather than through the normal plain text DNS lookups.
www.bleepingcomputer.com www.bleepingcomputer.com

And from the very link that you were so nice to supply:
www.zdnet.com

Windows 11 has advanced hardware security. Here's how to get it in Windows 10 today

The best parts of Windows 11 are already in Windows 10. You just have to enable them.
www.zdnet.com www.zdnet.com



Next?
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Since I am Not and never did or will IDC.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super w/581.95
    Sound Card
    Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    100Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 151.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    PClinuxOS Mate (2025.7)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    13th Gen Inter(R) Core(TM) i3-1315U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 @3200 MHz.
    Graphics card(s)
    Internal
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    Chicony 30 Watt
    Case
    Small
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Razor
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet
Josey Wales said:
Since I am Not and never did or will IDC.
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However, no evidence that Windows 11 as an OS is or will be more secure than Windows 10 has been posted and that was the point. Lot's of users like to claim that Windows 11 is more secure, but there is no evidence that it actually is.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
I will keep Windows 11 Pro on my laptop until MS forces me to go back to Windows 10 Pro. If need be I can even re-install the original HDD and have instant Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate. It least with Windows 7 the keyboard special features would work again.

Ak
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Window 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD 8700G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix X670E-E Wifi
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR5 2x32GB EXPO 6000 32-38-38-96
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 5700 XT Gold
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 PRO SSD 1 TB
    PSU
    Corsair 860i
    Case
    Cooler Master Haf X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Keyboard
    Logitech G19
    Mouse
    Logitech G700s
    Internet Speed
    1 GPS up and 1 GPS down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Systen currently being built
NavyLCDR said:
However, no evidence that Windows 11 as an OS is or will be more secure than Windows 10 has been posted and that was the point.
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www.crn.com

5 Things To Know About Microsoft’s Windows 11 Security Strategy | CRN

Microsoft’s Windows 11 CPU and TPM requirements appear to stem from the company’s zero trust security strategy.
www.crn.com www.crn.com

Microsoft itself says that it is more secure so who better to trust.:shawn: looking at it quickly makes one think that is is just a Win 10 OS that was rearranged and changed. Which it basically is but if it is NOT more secure would not MS be held in some sort of suit for making False Statements. Either way I like it better than Win 10 and it will only be changed once a year . It is also usable without Open Shel or Classic Shell , which both work in still, but I could not use 10 without OS or CS. It boils down to a matter of choice. There is no OS that is completely secure but many Linux Distro's come rather close. Life is full of choices some good some not so good, we will find out in about a year if Windows 11 was a good one or not.:crossed
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super w/581.95
    Sound Card
    Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    100Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 151.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    PClinuxOS Mate (2025.7)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    13th Gen Inter(R) Core(TM) i3-1315U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 @3200 MHz.
    Graphics card(s)
    Internal
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    Chicony 30 Watt
    Case
    Small
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Razor
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet
NavyLCDR said:
Do you have a source for that information?
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Do you have a source saying 11 is not as secure as 10? Do we have to accept your truth while you dismiss others?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4770)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core 9 Ultra 285K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z890 Xtreme AI Top
    Memory
    64G (4x16) DDR5 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (6400Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX Mercury) RX 9070XT OC (with Magnetic Fans)
    Sound Card
    Onboard (DTS:X® Ultra Audio: ESS ES9280A DAC)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    4 Samsung NVM 990 Pro drives: 1TB (OS), 2TB, 2 X 4TB.
    PSU
    Seasonic TX-1300 (1300 Watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4061)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    32gig (4 x 8) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3600Mhz (B-Die)
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon XFX Merc 7900XT (20gig)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24-Inch NEC PA242W
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 X NVME, 1 X SATA SSD
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 Watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i Elite AIO Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    Backup System
NavyLCDR said:
Instead of all that, I just have a router with a VPN server and DDNS built-in. The router does all the work for me. My IP address is always at ha********.netgear.com. Once connected to the VPN, I'm connected to my home network with access to my NAS and other computers. For example, I am camping right now along the Rogue River connected to my VPN. And, if I tether my phone to my computer, my computer will automatically connect to my home network if my phone is connected to my VPN. The screenshot below is my NAS at home:
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Hi there
that's also a great solution - but you need VPN and DDNS built in -- For those on "Bog standard" contracts my idea probably works best -- of course if you have better solutions - use them. The point of the post was merely to say that things like TEAMVIEWER are really redundant these days - especially if you only use it because of "Dynamic DNS" systems that most IP providers use these days.

(And Still thanks again for your method of getting bootable "Windows to go systems" via DISM etc -- still using it. !!!)

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-release 45
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
    Screen Resolution
    4KUHD X 2

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven below to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package. Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 10700 2.90GHz
    Motherboard
    Prime Z490-P
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 34" Ultra Wide Screen.
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 on each monitor
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB SATA SSD
    Crucial CT250BX100SSD1 SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO 250GB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    850 Watt
    Case
    Fractal
    Cooling
    5 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Arrogant
    Internet Speed
    300MBs/100MBs
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro
So far it is a keeper for me... Just in case I do have a good image of 10 to fall back on.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
Dru2 said:
Do you have a source saying 11 is not as secure as 10? Do we have to accept your truth while you dismiss others?
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Would you please quote me where I ever stated that Windows 11 was not as secure as Windows 10? I would like to see it, please. What I posted was that every security feature of Windows 11 is also available in Windows 10. And it was Josey Wales link that he posted that I quoted saying it. Microsoft is going to claim that it is more secure than Windows 10 because the setup routine blocks installation on less secure hardware, which, so far, can be bypassed without even having to use any third party software to do.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
NavyLCDR said:
Would you please quote me where I ever stated that Windows 11 was not as secure as Windows 10? I would like to see it, please. What I posted was that every security feature of Windows 11 is also available in Windows 10. And it was Josey Wales link that he posted that I quoted saying it. Microsoft is going to claim that it is more secure than Windows 10 because the setup routine blocks installation on less secure hardware, which, so far, can be bypassed without even having to use any third party software to do.
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Do not try to blame me for taking this off topic which was "Who is keeping Windows 11" I am but just gave a reason. It appears that you are not? I am done auguring with you on both Forums, no mater what I post you are against it. Have a nice day.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super w/581.95
    Sound Card
    Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    100Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 151.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    PClinuxOS Mate (2025.7)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    13th Gen Inter(R) Core(TM) i3-1315U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 @3200 MHz.
    Graphics card(s)
    Internal
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    Chicony 30 Watt
    Case
    Small
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Razor
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet
Now look what you did, Microsoft!
You made everybody mad at each other!
Now I don't have any friends left here! :(
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
Now look what you did, Microsoft!
You made everybody mad at each other!
Now I don't have any friends left here! :(
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:hug: You still have a few Edwin.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(RP) - 25H2 -26200..8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600-G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" ASUS VP28U 4k
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Josey Wales said:
Do not try to blame me for taking this off topic which was "Who is keeping Windows 11" I am but just gave a reason. It appears that you are not? I am done auguring with you on both Forums, no mater what I post you are against it. Have a nice day.
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I'm sorry that you have a problem with facts just because they don't support your assertions. For example there was nothing in this article:
www.crn.com

5 Things To Know About Microsoft’s Windows 11 Security Strategy | CRN

Microsoft’s Windows 11 CPU and TPM requirements appear to stem from the company’s zero trust security strategy.
www.crn.com www.crn.com

that is not also available in Windows 10. The only difference is that the setup routine, not even the Windows 11 OS itself, just the setup routine is filtering out hardware that does not support the security features that both Windows 10 and Windows 11 have available. They have turned on some security features in Windows 11 by default that are also in Windows 10.

If you are standard Joe user and you just accept defaults and don't know what to adjust, then your installation of Windows 11 will likely be more secure than the default installation of Windows 10. But all the same security features are there in Windows 10, you just have to turn some on in settings.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
I will keep it. I am luck to have 2 laptops, my main one in on Win 10 Pro and and I have a Dell Inspiron 3501 with ssd and 16gb of ram and that is sweet on windows 11. I bought it just to run win 11 on.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M18 R1
    CPU
    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
NavyLCDR said:
Would you please quote me where I ever stated that Windows 11 was not as secure as Windows 10? I would like to see it, please. What I posted was that every security feature of Windows 11 is also available in Windows 10. And it was Josey Wales link that he posted that I quoted saying it. Microsoft is going to claim that it is more secure than Windows 10 because the setup routine blocks installation on less secure hardware, which, so far, can be bypassed without even having to use any third party software to do.
Click to expand...

My question is about you asking others to prove something when you yourself don't do. We all have opinions and ideas so why do we need to prove ours when you're not doing the same?
NavyLCDR said:
I'm keeping Windows 11. The idea that Windows 11 is more secure than Windows 10 is false, however. The same security in Windows 11 is available in Windows 10.
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Josey Wales said:
The Networking is more secure than it was in Win 10.
Click to expand...
NavyLCDR said:
Do you have a source for that information?
Click to expand...

Where is your proof that "The idea that Windows 11 is more secure than Windows 10 is false"??? Additionally, can you prove that Microsoft claims are false?

And yes, we can bypass stuff now because Microsoft wants the OS tested on a myriad of machines for testing purposes. I thought we all understood that. I thought we all understood the final product will have the final say. Perhaps some won't accept that?
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4770)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core 9 Ultra 285K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z890 Xtreme AI Top
    Memory
    64G (4x16) DDR5 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (6400Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX Mercury) RX 9070XT OC (with Magnetic Fans)
    Sound Card
    Onboard (DTS:X® Ultra Audio: ESS ES9280A DAC)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    4 Samsung NVM 990 Pro drives: 1TB (OS), 2TB, 2 X 4TB.
    PSU
    Seasonic TX-1300 (1300 Watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4061)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    32gig (4 x 8) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3600Mhz (B-Die)
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon XFX Merc 7900XT (20gig)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24-Inch NEC PA242W
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 X NVME, 1 X SATA SSD
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 Watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i Elite AIO Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    Backup System
Dru2 said:
My question is about you asking others to prove something when you yourself don't do. We all have opinions and ideas so why do we need to prove ours when you're not doing the same?




Where is your proof that "The idea that Windows 11 is more secure than Windows 10 is false"??? Additionally, can you prove that Microsoft claims are false?

And yes, we can bypass stuff now because Microsoft wants the OS tested on a myriad of machines for testing purposes. I thought we all understood that. I thought we all understood the final product will have the final say. Perhaps some won't accept that?
Click to expand...
It's simple. You show me a security feature that is in Windows 11 that is not also available in Windows 10. So far nobody has been able to do that. Every security feature that anyone has pointed out in Windows 11, I have shown a corresponding article that says it is in Windows 10 also.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
To hell with security! Let's just get the OS ready for prime time first! :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
NavyLCDR said:
It's simple. You show me a security feature that is in Windows 11 that is not also available in Windows 10. So far nobody has been able to do that. Every security feature that anyone has pointed out in Windows 11, I have shown a corresponding article that says it is in Windows 10 also.
Click to expand...

Instead of answering questions we get whataboutisms :unsure:

I'll move on :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4770)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core 9 Ultra 285K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z890 Xtreme AI Top
    Memory
    64G (4x16) DDR5 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (6400Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX Mercury) RX 9070XT OC (with Magnetic Fans)
    Sound Card
    Onboard (DTS:X® Ultra Audio: ESS ES9280A DAC)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    4 Samsung NVM 990 Pro drives: 1TB (OS), 2TB, 2 X 4TB.
    PSU
    Seasonic TX-1300 (1300 Watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.4061)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    32gig (4 x 8) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3600Mhz (B-Die)
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon XFX Merc 7900XT (20gig)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24-Inch NEC PA242W
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 X NVME, 1 X SATA SSD
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 Watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i Elite AIO Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    Backup System
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