Solved Win 23H2 22631.4391 Firmware update failure


Maranna

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I have seen such terms as rollback while installing an update with Windows 11 firmware.
I understand that if Internet or power is interrupted during the firmware update it is quite catastrophic.
I have been lucky so far as I am up to date through about 6 updates with my Asus Z790-v--WIFI.
Do you have any recourse if you do lose Internet or power during he update particularly employing any of the terms I mentioned like rollback.
Is there anything to do to save the attempt to update the firmware.
Which program is best to display the updates; My Asus or Armoury Crate.
 

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When you perform a rollback, you are rolling back the software, for example Windows, not firmware. Going back to a previous version of firmware is a whole different topic, but that would require purposely applying an older firmware, much like applying a firmware update manually. Note that some devices will not even allow for older versions of FW to be installed. The bottom line is that FW should not be touched during a rollback so this should be a non-issue.

As for a power failure during installation of a FW update, what happens will depend upon exactly where in the process it failed but it also largely depends upon the device. Most MBs these days have safeguards against this. Some will have duplicate copies of the BIOS that can be switched to in order to perform a recovery. Others have special areas of the BIOS that don't get overwritten with an update that can be booted to perform a recovery in the event that the main BIOS becomes corrupted. Devices other than MBs may not be quite as tolerant.

If you live in an area with frequent brown-outs, one of the best things that you can do is to invest in a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) so that your system will run long enough to complete a FW update even if power is lost completely or you simply experience a brief blip in the power.

I hope that this helps!

EDIT: I forgot to address the question of what to use to check for FW versions. Typically software that came with the device in question will provide this information. However, there are often third-party utilities that can do this. For disk drives, there are utilities such as Crystal Disk Info, for your MB you can even run MSINFO32 in Windows although I often find that this reports the BIOS version in a different manner that the MB itself.

Also, if you enter into the BIOS setup, it should show the version there as well.
 

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I would recommend not using Armoury Crate. It isn't a very good app.

What do you mean specifically by Windows 11 firmware?
 

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The days when firmware upgrades being disastrous are pretty much long gone.

Normally if it fails nowadays, the sytem just stays on the old firmware.

The main risk is a power outage during a firmware upgrade, and even then unlikely to brick device like in the old days.

Of course, this cannot be 100% guaranteed but I have had a few firmware upgrades (usually on older devices like my Dell Latitude) fail over the last couple of years or so, without detrimental effect.

The vendors have gone a long way to making the process much more robust.

Having said that the old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is always a good philosophy.
 

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I would recommend not using Armoury Crate. It isn't a very good app.
Unfortunately it is necessary from what I understand to use certain features and customization. Fortunately, you can set your settings, and then uninstall it AFAIK.
 

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One of my dislikes about Armoury Crate is if you're doing a clean install of Windows and you let it install itself when the computer boots up for the first time after the OS install it will want to download and install numerous drivers. I prefer to install drivers manually as much as possible not have such apps do it for me.
 

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I would recommend not using Armoury Crate. It isn't a very good app.

What do you mean specifically by Windows 11 firmware?
get rid of the armory create crap..
 

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Getting a UPS is certainly a good idea
 

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