Win11_23H2_EnglishInternational_x64v2.iso - why when I download this, mount it and click on Setup.exe as administrator does it refuse to do anything?

Tombar · Jan 23, 2024

IanMosley said:
If you are attempting to do a Repair Install, the following restrictions apply -

You will only be able to perform a repair install of Windows 11 from within Windows 11. You will not be able to perform a repair install at boot or in Safe Mode.
The Windows 11 installation media (ISO or USB) must be the same edition, same version, and same or higher build as the currently installed Windows 11.
The Windows 11 installation media (ISO or USB) must be for the same language as your currently installed Windows 11.

As far as I'm aware, all of the above are correct.

Bree said:
Have you ever changed your UAC settings? Mine are set to the defaults, and I can run Setup from the ISO.

I had it set at Never, but put it back to Default and rebooted - same result - nothing happens

Tombar · Jan 23, 2024

IanMosley said:
If you are attempting to do a Repair Install, the following restrictions apply -

You will only be able to perform a repair install of Windows 11 from within Windows 11. You will not be able to perform a repair install at boot or in Safe Mode.
The Windows 11 installation media (ISO or USB) must be the same edition, same version, and same or higher build as the currently installed Windows 11.
The Windows 11 installation media (ISO or USB) must be for the same language as your currently installed Windows 11.

As far as I'm aware, all of the above are correct.

Bree said:
@Tombar's 'My Computer' specs says it's a Mesh with a 12th Gen Intel Core i3-12100, probably this one...

https://www.meshcomputers.com/Defau...E=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&XAPPL=1285559

His signature says 'Win 22H2. Build 22621.3007'

The Win11_23H2_EnglishInternational_x64v2.iso is build 22631.2861

View attachment 84892

Hi, I’m pretty ignorant - is this a good or a bad thing and does it explain anything?

Bree · Jan 23, 2024

Tombar said:
Hi, I’m pretty ignorant - is this a good or a bad thing and does it explain anything?

It answers dacrone's question in post #19, who wanted to know if your PC was a supported device, that you were on the latest build, and that the ISO was the appropriate one.

All the answers are 'yes'. You should be good to go.

Try3 · Jan 23, 2024

Tombar said:
I had it set at Never

Perhaps somebody got at your system and corrupted it while your defences were down.

1 What other non-standard things are you doing?

2 Does Windows start alright?

3 Are there any other odd things happening?

4 What made you want to run a Repair install?

5.1 Do other exe files run?
5.2 If you run this command in a Terminal, Command prompt window
echo %PathExt%
do you get this [correct] response?
.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC
{It's whether or not .exe appears in the response that is significant.}

All the best,
Denis

Tombar · Jan 23, 2024

Bree said:
It answers dacrone's question in post #19, who wanted to know if your PC was a supported device, that you were on the latest build, and that the ISO was the appropriate one.

All the answers are 'yes'. You should be good to go.

It was in the computer details at the bottom of the first post

Tombar · Jan 23, 2024

Try3 said:
Perhaps somebody got at your system and corrupted it while your defences were down.

- What other non-standard things are you doing?
- Does Windows start alright?
- Are there any other odd things happening?
- What made you want to run a Repair install?
- Do other exe files run?
- If you run this command in a Terminal, Command prompt window
echo %PathExt%
do you get this [correct] response?
.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC
{It's whether or not .exe appears in the response that is significant.}

All the best,
Denis

You mean "non-default", rather than "non-standard"?
Yes, Windows starts alright
The only odd thing that happens is that ,occasionally, on shut down, I get a Green Screen of Death saying Insider ran into a problem, with a Kernel mode error. Since I'm not in the Insider programme, this is strange. I DID go on it once and immediately came back off it by installing a backup, but typing my email address into deregister, or whatever it's called, confirms I'm not on any programme. This is why i'm trying to do a repair install, as recommended by other folk on here.
Exe files always run
See below - I chose the option of Terminal and it gives me Powershell. Nothing comes up after running the command

Bree · Jan 23, 2024

Tombar said:
I chose the option of Terminal and it gives me Powershell. Nothing comes up after running the command

That command requires a command prompt, it's not a Powershell command. In Terminal press Ctrl+Shift+2 to open a Command Prompt tab, or click the down arrow to the right of the tab and choose a Command Prompt.

Tombar · Jan 23, 2024

Bree said:
That command requires a command prompt, it's not a Powershell command. In Terminal press Ctrl+Shift+2 to open a Command Prompt tab, or click the down arrow to the right of the tab and choose a Command Promp

EVERY time I chose Terminal, I end up in Powershell. Why IS this?

I don't know if this helps, but I simply ran the echo %PathExt% command in a Command Prompt and got

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
I simply ran the echo %PathExt% command in a Command Prompt

Good. That's what I wanted you to do.

Terminal can get you into a PS session or a Command prompt session. You choose which.

Open Windows Terminal - ElevenForumTutorials
Open Command Prompt - ElevenForumTutorials

Tombar said:
and got

Compare that to what I said you should get and you'll see it is the correct response.

Denis

Tombar · Jan 24, 2024

Try3 said:
Terminal can get you into a PS session or a Command prompt session. You choose which.

It’s very confusing that Terminal is headed Windows Powershell! “Terminal” would have been good! Anyway, I now know about the Down arrow, so thanks.
So the response is good - what now? It seems so bizarre that I’ve a problem that is so baffling to so many people who know what they’re doing, and not just me. I had been hoping to wait till 23H2 came along, but someone said that wouldn’t repair my occasional mystery green screen of death.
I really can’t face starting from a clean installation and installing all the apps, finding all the passwords and sorting all the settings - I’ve had bad depression for the last 14 months or so and it’s hard just getting through the day, so anything extra is not good.

As an aside, I’ve learned to do a quote in a reply - how do I do two quotes in the same reply?

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
how do I do two quotes in the same reply?

Select the text you want for your first quote.
Pause for a moment until choices appear & select Quote.

Write a comment under the quote [even just a boring holding comment will help you your place until you've done all the quotes you want].
I always add a line return afterwards to help keep things spaced out because I believe that that aids comprehension.

Select the text you want for your second quote.
Pause for a moment until choices appear & select Quote.
Write a comment under the quote [even just a boring holding comment will help you your place until you've done all the quoting you want].
I always add a line return afterwards to help keep things spaced out because I believe that that aids comprehension.

And repeat this for all the quotes you want.

Denis

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
what now?

Well, I've rather lost track of the thread so you might also usefully re-read it in case there's a useful line of enquiry that has not been explored.

I do not know what might be wrong with your computer.
I do not know whether or not it got corrupted when you turned off UAC That was a big deal. You should not have done that.

There are some other threads about problems following withdrawal from the Insider programme either here or in TenForums. You could try searching for them.
There might be specific reports of problems running that setup.exe for all I know.

You have considered a Repair install. I don't think you have done it but I do not know why not.
A Repair install is a repair operation not a re-installation. Your existing applications & your own files are not affected. Its possible that some Windows settings might get changed but that's uncommon
Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade - ElevenForumTutorials
~~Personally, I always make a new system image before running a Repair install even though I know I'll be capturing a faulty state that I hope will go away.~~

System images

Tombar said:
came back off it by installing a backup

Perhaps this comment of yours means you already know about system imaging.
- Is that correct?
- If so, do you have a system image from before the problems started?

Do start making system images using a third-party utility such as Macrium reflect.
- A system image is a complete copy of everything on the OS disk. Once made, you can restore the image to overwrite everything on the OS disk to return it to its state on the day the image was made.
- And I mean everything on the OS disk. If your own files are on there they will get overwritten as well so you need to make separate backups of them since many will change every day.
- "System image" refers to an image of the disk containing the OS.
- "Disk image" refers to an image of any other disk. Many people use their imaging tool for all their disks.
I make a new system image every month and I keep all my 22H2 ones, the last 21H2 one & I will do the same as the OS progresses. If I get a software problem in two years then I'll be able to restore the computer to its immediately prior software state or any other date's state within half an hour. My system images are my best defence.
Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES | Windows 11 Forum
I suggest you do not take too long selecting a utility. Set yourself a time limit of fifteen minutes & either choose the one you think is best or choose Aomei backupper [which has a reputation for being easy to use]. You can then worry about which is best later on.
I use Acronis True image. I have done so since 2010. I have no idea if it is the best and I don't care.

I'm sorry I could not help solve your problems,
Denis

Tombar · Jan 24, 2024

Try3 said:
You have considered a Repair install. I don't think you have done it but I do not know why not.

Because the whole point of this thread is that I HAVE tried it over and over again, using different methods, and can’t get it to start.
If I download the ISO and mount it, setup.exe does nothing at all, whether the iso is on my desktop or a USB drive.
If I use the Media Creation tool and make a bootable USB drive and boot from it, it says you can’t do a Repair from removable media, only a Clean install!

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Sorry, went stupid for a moment.

Denis

kelper · Jan 24, 2024

With the iso you have on the usb, made by the MCT, don't boot into it, just run it from within Windows

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
If I use the Media Creation tool and make a bootable USB drive and boot from it, it says you can’t do a Repair from removable media, only a Clean install!

That's true.
You do a Repair install from within Windows i.e. you boot normally then disconnect all non-essential hardware, mount the ISO and run its Setup.exe.

Is the ISO mounting OK?
Can you post a screenshot showing the mounted ISO's root folder including its Setup.exe file? You might as well include the whole File explorer window so everything can be seen and considered.
Posting that ought to remove any doubt that the problem is merely a procedural error.

Denis

Tombar · Jan 24, 2024

Try3 said:
Do start making system images using a third-party utility such as Macrium reflect.
- A system image is a complete copy of everything on the OS disk. Once made, you can restore the image to overwrite everything on the OS disk to return it to its state on the day the image was made.
- And I mean everything on the OS disk. If your own files are on there they will get overwritten as well so you need to make separate backups of them since many will change every day.
- "System image" refers to an image of the disk containing the OS.
- "Disk image" refers to an image of any other disk. Many people use their imaging tool for all their disks.
I make a new system image every month and I keep all my 22H2 ones, the last 21H2 one & I will do the same as the OS progresses. If I get a software problem in two years then I'll be able to restore the computer to its immediately prior software state or any other date's state within half an hour. My system images are my best defence.
Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES | Windows 11 Forum
I suggest you do not take too long selecting a utility. Set yourself a time limit of fifteen minutes & either choose the one you think is best or choose Aomei backupper [which has a reputation for being easy to use]. You can then worry about which is best later on.
I use Acronis True image. I have done so since 2010. I have no idea if it is the best and I don't care.

I’ve been doing full and incremental backups for the last 20-30 years - all sorts in the early days, then Acronis till they went yearly and now Macrium and AOMEI. That’s how I escaped from the Insider programme - I’d only been on it a couple of days and had a full Macrium backup from the day before. I’ve also tried going back several months to earlier backups, but still have the l insider Green SOD, but only occasionally and only on shutdown. It’s annoying, but not desperate.

Tombar · Jan 24, 2024

kelper said:
With the iso you have on the usb, made by the MCT, don't boot into it, just run it from within Windows

Just tried that - it asks if I want to make changes, then does nothing at all! Why does Microsoft hate me so much?

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
I’ve been doing full and incremental backups for the last 20-30 years - all sorts in the early days, then Acronis till they went yearly and now Macrium and AOMEI. That’s how I escaped from the Insider programme - I’d only been on it a couple of days and had a full Macrium backup from the day before. I’ve also tried going back several months to earlier backups, but still have the l insider Green SOD, but only occasionally and only on shutdown. It’s annoying, but not desperate.

In that case, I suggest you concentrate on finding other threads about people having problems leaving the Insider programme.
Once that's resolved you can consider restoring a system image.

All the best,
Denis

Try3 · Jan 24, 2024

Tombar said:
it asks if I want to make changes, then does nothing at all!

A question for anybody knowledgeable about the Insider programme:-

Does being on the Insider programme prevent a 'normal' ISO's Setup.exe running?

Denis