Windows 11 doesn’t play nicely with AMD Ryzen processors


Devlin1888 said:
AMD reports that Windows 11 may be causing a performance dip of up to 15% on Ryzen CPUs
This was all i could find, a few articles spout the same information, Im gonna say its a low % of users though if anything
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it is cpu dependant it seems, and application.

I've not really noticed anything in games, about the same.
in other apps I use I have noticed it.

Its the other apps that for me is the problem as it isn't just a 15% drop in performance. its weird behaviour as well such as a random black screen every 10 seconds or so like a single empty frame entered the buffer, doesn't do anything other than that.(I do see that in games as well and that's a new thing since the latest update.)

I'm going back to windows 10 today for the rest of this year once a few more updates are done I'll put 11 back on.
 

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BunnyJ said:
That's likely click bait.. PC Gamer? Right.. a sound source.
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you could just run some benchmarks yourself to find out like I did.

10-15% drop in performance in every single one.
Oddly actual games don't display the same drop as synthetic benchmarks do, but then not so odd either.
But I've recorded some numbers and when I go back to windows 10 later today I'll retest and see how those game numbers compare.
 

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Ptolomios said:
you could just run some benchmarks yourself to find out like I did.

10-15% drop in performance in every single one.
Oddly actual games don't display the same drop as synthetic benchmarks do, but then not so odd either.
But I've recorded some numbers and when I go back to windows 10 later today I'll retest and see how those game numbers compare.
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Honestly.. I have better things to do with my time.
 

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CiroConsentino said:
This is a huge problem for gamers. Gaming in Win11 is really bad on Ryzen CPUs. Blame Micro$oft for this. As usual, Win11 devs will not do anything about it, AMD will have to step forward to fix this problem.
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The fix for that issue is coming out.
 

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There was a Chipset driver out today, could be related. Check the news forum. Changes to drivers is the most efficient way to fix, so AMD would be the ones to do this.
 

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Yes, it has been fixed in a new 11 22000.282 build. Now we need someone to really test this in games.
 

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barman58 said:
There was a Chipset driver out today, could be related. Check the news forum. Changes to drivers is the most efficient way to fix, so AMD would be the ones to do this.
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I find no link to a new AMD chipset driver in the News or Devices forums.

An update to 22000.282 in the beta and RP insider branches, yes.
 
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bobkn said:
Thanks, but it's not new. AMD dates it as from 9/13/2021. I downloaded and installed it on that date.
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Ok.. I wasn't sure if you had that one or not
 

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BunnyJ said:
Ok.. I wasn't sure if you had that one or not
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I was referring to the post by "barman58" (post 46). It referred to something "today" (10/15). I think that a new version may not exist yet. Fingers crossed that AMD provides a patch next week, as they have suggested.
 
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Hmm I've heard about slow downs with RYZEN processors but so far my 1 year old HP laptop is handeling windows 11 really well. I have RYZEN5 3500U. My Dell desktop witch is newer is really quick with windows 11 its a intel core i7.
 

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No issues here with my Ryzen 9 3900X.
 

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With the new patches out. My 3700x runs great now.
 

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Onboard DTS custom chipset
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Primary: Alienware AW3425DW, Secondary: MSI MAG27QRF-QD,
Screen Resolution
Main monitor: 3440x1440@240hz, 2nd 2560x1440@165hz
Hard Drives
ADATA XPG SX8200 1TB,. 2TB Samsung 970 Evo plus, 4TB WD Black.
PSU
Corsair RM750x
Case
Phanteks Enthroo Pro Tempered glass
Cooling
Corsair 212 Evo RGB Black air cooler
Keyboard
Steeleseries Apex 7 TKL
Mouse
Logitech 502 PROTEUS SPECTRUM
Internet Speed
1.5 gigabyte fiber
Browser
Chrome
Antivirus
Bitdefender
MS said this was fixed in KB5006746 Build 22000.282 released 3 days ago.
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8875i9-10900 10 core 20 threads32 gbnone-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8875
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8875AMD Ryzen 7 6800U32 gbintegrated
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8875
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8875
glasskuter said:
MS said this was fixed in KB5006746 Build 22000.282 released 3 days ago.
Click to expand...
Well, at least when I run AIDA64 on my Ryzen 5600X system, it DOES appear to be fixed after I applied that update.
 

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Windows 11Ryzen 5600X16GBEVGA GT 710
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom built
CPU
Ryzen 5600X
Motherboard
ASRock Steel Legend
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GT 710
Sound Card
None
Monitor(s) Displays
23",24", 19" - flat panels
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
PSU
750W
Case
Antec
Cooling
stock Wraith cooler
Keyboard
Corsair gaming
Mouse
Logitech M720
Internet Speed
1Gb
I think you need to run AIDA64 benchmark 4-5 times to see that's it's not entirely fixed...


After 3.10 chipset and latest MS updates...


000000 L3 Cache Bench.jpg



It's a LOT better, but still not as "consistently" good as Windows 10.
Both "sets of four" were run 5 minutes after a cold boot.
The 5 minute wait was for the delayed start Services to finish.

Only 3rd party programs running...
Bidefender Internet Security (idle)
AIDA64 Extreme (running the benchmark)
Paintshop Pro 7.04 (idle)
EVGA Precision X1 (vid card fan speed)
 
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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26200.8875 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦25H2AMD Ryzen 7 3700XG.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26200.8875 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1

  • At a glance

    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
Ghot said:
I think you need to run AIDA64 benchmark 4-5 times to see that's it's not entirely fixed...


After 3.10 chipset and latest MS updates...


(snip)



It's a LOT better, but still not as "consistently" good as Windows 10.
Click to expand...

I wonder whether Windows 11 or the AMD chipset drivers need to be patched, or whether Aida needs to be updated?
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 26200.8968Amd Threadripper 7970X128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    OS
    Windows 11 26200.8968
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D Rev. 1.0
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Innocn 32" OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 1500W
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    SilverStone Technology XE360-TR5, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Cherry KC 500 MX LP (mechanical)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    2000/250 Mbps (down/up)
    Other Info
    xFinity gateway

  • At a glance

    windows 11 26200.8968Intel I9-13900K64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Operating System
    windows 11 26200.8968
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 27" OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Cherry Streaming (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
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