Solved Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise (25H2) - Update rollback :(


They missed viewing the computer logs?

They didn't view event viewer?



How come you did not follow this step:


3) Run upgrade_failure_info > post a share link






Its 4:52 AM (i'm going to bed)
Upgrade_failure_info.bat doesn't work :(
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
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Laptop
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Dell G16 7630
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13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
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0V4JDG
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64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
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Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
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13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
See post #39.
 

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Still, I’m determined to fix this OS, because I don’t want to believe Microsoft is that incompetent—and that a single enablement package can break the entire LTSC branch.
Did MS offer the EP for your install via Windows Update, or provide a download from Microsoft Update Catalog?
Did you read an article suggesting you install EP on LTSC 2024?

No. While they could have restricted the EP's installation (like some other MSU's), this error wasn't something they anticipated since MS didn't make the file available to the general public. Don't blame MS.
 

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Windows 11 editions (like consumer, enterprise, education et al.) aren't designed so that users can morph features, CU's or enablement packages from one into another. To even try is asking for real trouble as the OP has found out. And I seriously doubt that Microsoft support doing this after reading some of the Windows EULA's.
 
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The entire point of the LTSC releases is to have a stable platform that doesn't break applications with each new update.. something Microsoft is utterly moronic for not offering to all of their customers. I WISH I had a license for W11 LTSC IoT. All of my problems with customized apps would be solved.
 

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None. Manully configured so nobody except me can change any critical system files. (Don't ask how, it's probably against some rule somewhere)
But since there is an Enablement Package for 24H2 which, through registry modifications, activates hidden functionalities and effectively turns it into 25H2, there should be some KB that works the other way around.


I realize that after activating the Enablement Package, some of my .cab packages broke due to updates being downloaded from a different product line.
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
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Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
Did MS offer the EP for your install via Windows Update, or provide a download from Microsoft Update Catalog?
Did you read an article suggesting you install EP on LTSC 2024?

No. While they could have restricted the EP's installation (like some other MSU's), this error wasn't something they anticipated since MS didn't make the file available to the general public. Don't blame MS.
So how is it that some “modders” are able to create their own 25H2 IoT LTSC ISOs where everything works fine, without any issues — including updates, features, and overall stability?
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
How come the computer is using volume activation?
 

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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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Microsoft Defender
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How come the computer is using volume activation?
I have msdn business serial number.

I'm working as IT Admin/DevOPS.
 
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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
How come it's not retail or OEM?




1) Please add WMIC:

DISM /Online /Add-Capability /CapabilityName:WMIC~~~~





2) Run Tuneup plus > post a share link into the newest post







3) Run upgrade_failure_info > post a share link



 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
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Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
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16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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Microsoft Defender
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Please find all needed logs.
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
1) How come the Windows activation is not retail or OEM?





Please perform the following steps:





2) Enable-automatic-backup-of-system-registry:





3) Create system-restore-point:





4) Read this link on Windows Driver Verifier (WDV):

Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10




5) Learn the methods to recover from BSOD caused by WDV by booting into safe mode and running one or more of these commands:

verifier /reset

verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail



(option nine and seven)




6) Plan to run the tool with various customized test settings.

a) Test all non-Microsoft drivers

b) Test no Microsoft drivers

c) For the first run of WDV select the 3 customized tests displayed in the TF tutorial




7) Whenever the WDV tool is started if there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

verifier /querysettings

Post a share link.



Customized tests will then be posted for the next run of WDV.



WDV can run continuously during the testing.



For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
 
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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
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HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
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NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
During these tests only one driver caused black screen of death: arcafsav.sys (It's EDR Engine from MKS Vir), but antivirus without verifier.exe working without any problems.


FilenameAddress In StackFrom AddressTo AddressSizeTime StampTime StringProduct NameFile DescriptionFile VersionCompanyFull Path
arcafsav.sysarcafsav.sys+11acfffff80e`35370000fffff80e`3537a0000x0000a0000x5919652015.05.2017 09:21:52C:\Windows\system32\drivers\arcafsav.s

1768824651210.webp


Message from BSOD: DRIVER_VERIFIER_IOMANAGER_VIOLATION (0xC9)
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
1) How come the Windows activation is not retail or OEM?




For every customized test post a querysettings txt or V2 share link:

7) Whenever the WDV tool is started if there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

verifier /querysettings

Post a share link > post using txt


For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
1) How come the Windows activation is not retail or OEM?




For every customized test post a querysettings txt or V2 share link:

7) Whenever the WDV tool is started if there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

verifier /querysettings

Post a share link > post using txt


For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
I’m not sure, to be honest. We purchase our organization’s Windows keys through a Microsoft Partner.


Sometimes i had netio.sys BSOD, but it's undepended:

FilenameAddress In StackFrom AddressTo AddressSizeTime StampTime StringProduct NameFile DescriptionFile VersionCompanyFull Path
NETIO.SYSNETIO.SYS+24627fffff802`2e370000fffff802`2e4280000x000b80000x1bc09b70 Microsoft® Windows® Operating SystemNetwork I/O Subsystem10.0.26100.7309 (WinBuild.160101.0800)Microsoft CorporationC:\Windows\system32\drivers\NETIO.SYS
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
The computer has had 97 BSODs in the prior 30 days.


For every customized test post a querysettings txt or V2 share link:

7) Whenever the WDV tool is started if there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

verifier /querysettings

Post a share link > post using txt


For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.





If there is any BSOD > run the V2 log collector > post a V2 share link into the newest post

If there is no BSOD running WDV > post a verifier /querysetting text share link
 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
Reinstalling the OS from scratch isn’t a problem.

I’ve backed everything up with Acronis (too bad I didn’t create a full system image).

Still, I’m determined to fix this OS, because I don’t want to believe Microsoft is that incompetent—and that a single enablement package can break the entire LTSC branch.

The system is running fine despite the lack of updates and the inability to manage some optional features like Sandbox.

There have to be other options besides a clean install / reinstall.
It's not always "Incompetent". Sometimes things just won't do what you want them to do because they aren't designed to. I suppose if you can remember any of those old DDR (East German before the fall of the Berlin Wall circa 1989) Trabant cars -- well I suppose you could put a Ferrari engine in it but as soon as you started the engine the whole thing probably would haveflown apart plus probably have blown up your garage too.!!!

Nothing wrong in modifying / customising stuff but you have to be realistic. And was the enablement package designed also for an LTSC release - which by definition is meant to be stable so won't get latest updates etc unless to fix defects.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Ok, I reinstalled OS.

It's funny beacuse it's remember my current serial key :D

We can close this thread.
 

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Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H213th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
OS
Windows 11 IoT LTSC Enterprise 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell G16 7630
CPU
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX
Motherboard
0V4JDG
Memory
64 DDR5 SDRAM (DUAL CHANNEL)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (8 GB)
The logs had findings that typically interfere with upgrades.

We will never know whether the OS issues were the overriding factor.

The setuperr and setupact for the rollback were not collected.

The 97 BSODs in the prior 30 days typically would cause upgrade failures.

The above is now water under the bridge.




The BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. 1.29.1, 11/20/2025

Upgrade the BIOS: 1.29.1 > 1.30.0

 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
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