24H2 updates are not faster as MS promised?


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I remember Microsoft promising that installing 24H2 will lead to faster cumulative updating so I updated my two devices to 24H2 on 15th December 2024. Since then there have been three Patch Tuesday updates and am not seeing faster updates. Last night one device took 45 minutes and the other device took 55 minutes. I know that some of that time my devices were in a queue waiting for the download to begin but the same applied when I updated prior to 24H2. In the end 24H2 is not faster to install updates.
Is it my imagination or do others find the same?

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Is it my imagination or do others find the same?


This Patch Tuesday was pretty fast for me. On both Win 10 and Win 11.
They finished in about 6-7 minutes each, including restart, etc.

But... I usually do the end of the month Preview Updates, too.
I don't know if that helps or not?
 

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I didn't time them but both Feb and March cumulative seemed PDQ for me.
 

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For me, yesterday's KB5053602 took about 8 minutes. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Is it my imagination or do others find the same?
For me the cumulative update was really quite quick. The desktop took about 7-8 minutes, but the laptop (ARM based windows) was really quick at about 4-5 minutes. Although there was no .net update on the laptop. I assume this is because most of the quality changes will be rolled out gradually later.
 

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It seems to be just my devices then?
I wonder if it is my ISP's servers unable to cope with Patch Tuesday demand?
After clicking on 'Check for updates' and it finding the updates the downloading does not begin immediately. It stays at 0% for maybe 5 minutes before starting downloading and then it is slow to download the updates. It probably takes 15 minutes to get from 0% to 100% downloaded and it stays at 100% for another minute before 'Installing' begins. My broadband download speed is around 60 Mbps.
The installing part (not ISP related) takes another 20 minutes before the 'Restart now' prompt shows. The black-screen installing updates part takes another 5 minutes before the sign-in screen shows.

I have run the tuneup.bat file but it found no integrity violations or component store corruption and chkdsk found no problems.
I have Bitdefender Total Security installed but I can't see this interfering with Windows updates.

Any ideas on what might be affecting windows update on my two devices?

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I think the 'install part' probably also includes communication between your device and the remote server. I'd say your download speed is the main culprit. I have 900Mb/s download speed - so 15x faster.
 

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These updates only take a long time if you sit and watch them. Yesterday's update was released early for some reason, so the first notification I had of this was when I got a pop-up on my laptop saying it was ready to reboot. All the processing getting ready for the reboot takes place in the background so usually I leave WU to do that and get on with something else.
 

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I think the 'install part' probably also includes communication between your device and the remote server.
I thought the 'Install' part was all done locally on the disk (there is plenty of disk space available) with no further comms happening after the download was complete? Can any one clarify this please?

These updates only take a long time if you sit and watch them
That is subjective. I am being objective by comparing time taken to complete updates on my devices with those mentioned in other posts. 45 to 55 minutes compared to 8 minutes is a massive difference. Ceasing to watch the update process does not speed it up. It just ignores the issue.

I am hoping that someone may offer a fix.
 

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I am hoping that someone may offer a fix.
Have you considered doing a clean install of 24H2 after deleting ALL partitions on the boot drive? This will get rid of any 'crud' on your device(s).
 

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Mine took a fair while to complete download but installation was done in under 10 minutes. I'm on a 50MB internet fed.
 

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There is nothing to fix. You have modest consumer spec PC and Laptop.

That could be better with 16 GB of RAM in both of them and also upgrade the SSD to 1 TB.
That would help a bit, not a lot though, being realistic.

"I am being objective by comparing time taken to complete updates on my devices with those mentioned in other posts. 45 to 55 minutes compared to 8 minutes is a massive difference."

No point in comparing consumer Laptops/PCs, modest Internet speeds, with professional people buying new £10,000 PC hardware every year with Internet speeds of 10,000 Mbps.

I never bother monitoring most update events. I don't care how long a Cumulative update download lasts, 10 sec, 1 min or 1 week who cares.
There is the March cumulative update going on whilst writing this. I will do any Restart required at my leisure, after the notification orange dot and arrows.

These supposedly accurate statements of taking 5-10 min without any mention of what is considered start and end points, hardware etc.
The number may as well be just made up, it is certainly not any kind of measurement.

e.g. The endpoint is not the Sign-in screen after the Restart.
Particularly during .NET Framework and Cumulative updates the installation of updates continues on for quite a while after the Restart and Sign-in. There are settings for some things in Windows updates > Advanced options.
 

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As a yardstick I am quoting the time taken from 'Check for updates' until the sign-in screen appears. What happens after that doesn't matter because I am able use the device after signing in and that is all I care about.

I accept that my moderately specced devices will not be as fast as powerful devices in carrying out tasks.

What I should have made clear is that 24H2 is no faster than 23H2 was at downloading and installing updates and that seems at odds with what Microsoft promised. The fact that I have moderately specced devices is irrelevant in this respect. I should still have seen faster completion times compared with 23H2.
 

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The 24H2 upgrade has little, if any, connection with download speeds and, as the cumulative updates actually grow in size every month, it would be naive to expect the download/setup part of the process to get faster if user connectivity with the update servers remains the same.

Example:

February 2025 - Windows11.0-kb5051987-x64.msu - 634,459 KB
March 2025 - Windows11.0-kb5053598-x64.msu - 691,813 KB
 

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Interesting to be able to see the download sizes but where do you find that information please?
 

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    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
    Antivirus
    Bit Defender Total Security
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeIntel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAMIntel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Antivirus
    Bit Defender Total Security
Have you considered doing a clean install of 24H2
No. I am not prepared to go those lengths to try and fix this issue. It is only once per month so not worth the trouble.

I looked at the the Windows update troubleshooter but it doesn't have an option to choose 'Updates are slow to install....' (see photo) so the troubleshooter is no use to me either.

I'll just have to accept it and carry on.

WU Troubleshooter.webp
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProAMD Ryzen 9 8945HS32GB DDR5 SO-DIMMIntegrated AMD Radeon 780M (4.00 GHz)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    GMKtec K11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 SO-DIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon 780M (4.00 GHz)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 2250HM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
    Antivirus
    Bit Defender Total Security
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeIntel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAMIntel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 - 255H processor
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Arc 140T onboard graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Antivirus
    Bit Defender Total Security
Gadzooks! Just updated 2 test machines to Build 27813 (Canary) and it took over an HOUR to run from start to finish on both machines. Slow, and unsual, in my recent experience. Wonder what's inside? Announcement says "Very little."
Odd...
--Ed--
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)16 GBIntel UHD Graphics 620
    OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
  • At a glance

    Windows 11Ryzen 5800X128 GB (4x32 DDR5-5600)NVIDIA 3070Ti
    Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Asrock B550 Extreme4
    Memory
    128 GB (4x32 DDR5-5600)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA 3070Ti
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2xDell 2707
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1200
    Hard Drives
    2XNVMe, multiple HDDs from 3 to 12 TB
    PSU
    Seasonic 650
    Case
    NZXT Flo 6
    Cooling
    dual-fan air cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Logi
    Internet Speed
    GbE
    Browser
    all of 'em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    temperamental UEFI
MS, busy counting the trillions $$$$$$$
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win11i9-1390064 GBNvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
OS
Win11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Asus Home built
CPU
i9-13900
Motherboard
ASUS Strix Z790-H
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony 55"
Hard Drives
SSD
PSU
850 watt EVGA
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
CoolerMaster
Keyboard
RedDragon
Mouse
CoolerMaster
Internet Speed
300/300
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
VR, Virtual Reality
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