Adding RAM

dsscottage · Feb 8, 2024

Wisewiz said:
You won't. In a Dell desktop, the hardest part of changing memory sticks is opening the case. Since you have only two slots, those slots are the right ones for the new sticks (! ). And the Dell slots have the perfectly standard snap-up plastic levers at the ends. Snap 'em both down to release the stick you currently have; make sure your stick is oriented the right way (look at the notch in the stick and the plastic stump in the slot; there's only one way for the stick to seat itself completely in), and firmly (firmly!) press down on the back (spine) of the stick until the plastic levers both snap up. You'll hear the clicks.

Done and dusted. Good luck, old friend.

When you say "old friend", you have no idea how right you are.

Thank you again.

Wisewiz · Feb 8, 2024

dsscottage said:
When you say "old friend", you have no idea how right you are.

And I bet you're not telling, either. Well I'm REALLY old, so there. There's a pic of me in that Post a Picture thread in the Chillout Room forum. Antique geek. Pics of me and a bunch of (mostly) geezers in that thread. Fun.

Post a picture of yourself

Well, I'll start it off. My yearly haircut. :-) Admin note - Only real pictures of you should be posted.

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(Except for John, @z3r010, the Lord High Poobah in this set of many forums. He's young enough to put up with the headaches of running this show on the Internet. Most of us would have a stroke.)

bobkn · Feb 8, 2024

dsscottage said:
I believe that I'm on my way to resolution.

FYI - I contacted Dell to see what they could do to help me get a pair of RAM stick. They wouldn't exchange my 32GB stick for two 16GB sticks. They recommended that I contact Sales for my needs. The price of their RAM was out of this world.

My existing RAM is a Samsung unit. I was unable to find a matching stick online and based on feedback here, I'd be worried that an additional stick (not a matched pair) might be a problem.

Therefore, I've looked online for reviews, specs and prices and have ordered:
Corsair Vengeance DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 5200MHz

Now I'll cross my fingers that I won't have any installation problems.

Thank you everyone for all your help, advice and education.

BTW - I'd like to mark the thread "Solved" but I don't see that link on this thread. (????)

It's a little sad that Dell's memory prices are so high that buying a 2X32 pair at retail is less expensive than getting a single 32GB DIMM from Dell.

Maybe you can recoup a little by selling the original DIMM. I've sold RAM on eBay. (To a dealer, because I set a low enough "buy it now" price.)

dsscottage · Feb 8, 2024

bobkn said:
Maybe you can recoup a little by selling the original DIMM. I've sold RAM on eBay. (To a dealer, because I set a low enough "buy it now" price.)

That's exactly my intention.

dsscottage · Feb 8, 2024

Wisewiz said:
And I bet you're not telling, either. Well I'm REALLY old, so there. There's a pic of me in that Post a Picture thread in the Chillout Room forum. Antique geek. Pics of me and a bunch of (mostly) geezers in that thread. Fun.

Post a picture of yourself

Well, I'll start it off. My yearly haircut. :-) Admin note - Only real pictures of you should be posted.

www.elevenforum.com

(Except for John, @z3r010, the Lord High Poobah in this set of many forums. He's young enough to put up with the headaches of running this show on the Internet. Most of us would have a stroke.)

Looking good!

Wisewiz · Feb 8, 2024

dsscottage said:
Looking good!

Maybe consider an appointment with your optometrist. :zany:

tinmar49 · Feb 17, 2024

I remember on one of the forums somebody doing an extended test of mix and match RAM to find out whether having a set of fully matched did make a difference. I think the answer he found was that odd sticks gave better than 96% of the speed of the matched sets.

Berton · Feb 17, 2024

One thing of note, I got a new Notebook just as Win11 was fully released with 8GB RAM. While looking through my parts box I found a 4GB module, added it to the Notebook. Only downside is the 8GB is 3200 and the 4GB is 2600, as with everything in computing it's operating at the slower speed. But I did get the Dual-Channel instead of Single Channel of 1 module so kind of a trade-off in performance, no operational issues.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

I have 2 CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (2 x 16GB) set in Dual-Channel A2 and B4 But in CPU-Z under Channel # it says 4 x 32-bit whereas it should say Dual. I'm I mistaken?

Berton · Feb 21, 2024

In CPU-Z also look at the SPD tab.
MIne:

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

Berton said:
In CPU-Z also look at the SPD tab.
MIne:

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Here's what I see on mine.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

If you look back to post #5 Wizewiz shows Dual. Interesting.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

This is no big deal. Just a curiosity. I know my RAM is set Dual-Channel. My system is Rocking Fast. And it'll be even faster. My existing nvme runs Read at 3500 MBps and Write 3000 MBps. My new one coming in. Read at 4,150 MB/s and Write at 4,150 MB/s. Western Digital WD_Blue SN580 M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 It'll be my new boot drive. My continuing ride building and upgrading my new build.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

Berton said:
One thing of note, I got a new Notebook just as Win11 was fully released with 8GB RAM. While looking through my parts box I found a 4GB module, added it to the Notebook. Only downside is the 8GB is 3200 and the 4GB is 2600, as with everything in computing it's operating at the slower speed. But I did get the Dual-Channel instead of Single Channel of 1 module so kind of a trade-off in performance, no operational issues.

Are you saying that this also applies as well to NVME? I don't think this is the case. So if I image my existing nvme to my new nvme and blow the old nvme off and move it another slot "I have 3 other slots" My boot drive will run at the lower speed? As your post indicated It about RAM. But my question in valid.

Wisewiz · Feb 21, 2024

@Lance1

Nope. The speeds of the drives aren't interdependent. But, ofc, as you know, if you use your faster drive to copy a 16GB file to an external, the speed of the copy operation will be limited by the write speed of the external. So if you then copy the same file from your slower drive to the external, the external will set the pace, but because the slower on IS slower, there'll be a perceptible diff between the speed of the first copy operation and the second.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

Wisewiz said:
@Lance1

Nope. The speeds of the drives aren't interdependent. But, ofc, as you know, if you use your faster drive to copy a 16GB file to an external, the speed of the copy operation will be limited by the write speed of the external. So if you then copy the same file from your slower drive to the external, the external will set the pace, but because the slower on IS slower, there'll be a perceptible diff between the speed of the first copy operation and the second.

I have 4 nvme slot's. My boot and 3 storage. If I transfer from my boot to an nvme storage on the mobo is that considered a remote?

Wisewiz · Feb 21, 2024

No, but the write speed of the target will determine the highest speed of the copy operation. And if you copy from a slower internal to a faster internal the read speed of the slower source will determine the highest speed of the operation. Remember to use large files for checking this sort of thing. 15-20GB works. 500MB doesn't. Happens too fast to even show the copying action panel.

Lance1 · Feb 21, 2024

Wisewiz said:
No, but the write speed of the target will determine the highest speed of the copy operation. And if you copy from a slower internal to a faster internal the read speed of the slower source will determine the highest speed of the operation. Remember to use large files for checking this sort of thing. 15-20GB works. 500MB doesn't. Happens too fast to even show the copying action panel.

I think the few questions I asked and the response will help some if not many on this forum. thank you for participating Wisewiz and Berton. This was fun a post.

ShamrockRig · Mar 2, 2024

Lance1 said:
If you look back to post #5 Wizewiz shows Dual. Interesting.

Mine actually shows dual too. 4x8gb

tinmar49 · Mar 5, 2024

I have just checked my ram using CPU-Z and the 4 sticks of 8gb Corsair all have the same part number, CMK16GX4M2B3000C15. Bought at different times as pairs, slots 1 and 2 have Samsung chips and slots 3 and 4 have Hynix chips. The run dual channel and are more than enough for my usage.