Solved Buying TPM 2.0

hsehestedt · Dec 8, 2021

f23948 said:
I am using Windows 10 1809 Enterprise LTSC

Okay, if you prefer to stick with that, by all means feel free to do so. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Dru2 · Dec 8, 2021

f23948 said:
Where I can find and buy right newest processor appropriate for my Dell OptiPlex 9020?

Don't know your skill level, but this question leads me to think you've never replaced a CPU before.

I say that to also say if you're looking at replacing the CPU, you need to understand you may also need to replace the motherboard since you can't just plop any CPU on any motherboard - the CPU needs to be supported by the motherboard. Looking at the PC you're asking about, nothing of that era is going to support Windows 11, so you're basically looking at a new build/PC.

From that your choice is to learn how to build a new PC or buy a new one that meets Windows 11's requirements. The other choice is to stick with Windows 10 until you decide on buying or building a new PC. You have until 2025 before Windows 10 loses support.

And I mean no offense, I simply don't know your skill level.

Good luck.

TheMystic · Dec 8, 2021

hsehestedt said:
You can still easily install Windows 11 on your system, even though it would be technically unsupported. I run Windows 11 on a 4th gen Intel core and on a laptop that is a lot older than that.

Mine is running on a 2013 laptop with 2nd gen Intel Core i7.

The-Hive · Dec 8, 2021

I think you have 2 choices, stay on 10 or a new machine

hsehestedt · Dec 8, 2021

The-Hive said:
I think you have 2 choices, stay on 10 or a new machine

Or, choice number 3, install Windows 11 anyway

, especially since it is so ridiculously easy to do.

The-Hive · Dec 8, 2021

Good point @hsehestedt It is the obvious one

Dru2 · Dec 8, 2021

hsehestedt said:
Or, choice number 3, install Windows 11 anyway :), especially since it is so ridiculously easy to do.

It's easy for many of us to make this statement since many have more than one system, but I personally would not advertise one install an OS that Microsoft may not support down the road on my only system... and especially a system as old as the OP's.

I know what I'm doing, and I didn't even install the beta on my main system until it became final. I did and still do have Insiders on my backup and main laptop, but... again, more than one PC :wink:

ThrashZone · Dec 8, 2021

f23948 said:
Where I can find and buy correct TPM 2.0 appropriate for my Dell OptiPlex 9020?

Hi,
Contact dell.

The-Hive · Dec 8, 2021

Dru2 said:
It's easy for many of us to make this statement since many have more than one system, but I personally would not advertise one install an OS that Microsoft may not support down the road on my only system... and especially a system as old as the OP's.

I know what I'm doing, and I didn't even install the beta on my main system until it became final. I did and still do have Insiders on my backup and main laptop, but... again, more than one PC

I agree, I have always said that all over the forums and a great believer that the restrictions are there for a reason but if someone wants to go ahead then all we can do is help them

Berton · Dec 8, 2021

I got a new 14" Notebook a month ago that came with Win10 Pro [on sale for decent price], had a statement on the ad about suitable for Win11, did it. My need is for the future with my clients in dealing with their needs and trying to refrain from customizations so as to see what they are asking about.

COMPUTIAC · Dec 8, 2021

f23948 said:
I am using Windows 10 1809 Enterprise LTSC

Where can I get this version ?

f23948 · Dec 8, 2021

COMPUTIAC said:
Where can I get this version ?

I can not tell you.

Berton · Dec 8, 2021

COMPUTIAC said:
Where can I get this version ?

Maybe something here but the 18 releases and probably 19 are outdated and some 20:

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ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

f23948 said:
I can not tell you.

Hi,
Can you tell us what dell had to say about the tpm 2.0 availability.
They are the only ones that matter seeing it's best to get tpm from the mother board manufacture which in you case is dell and who ever they used to make the product.

BunnyJ · Dec 9, 2021

At this point all we're doing is a bunch of Google searches and the best source is Dell.

Berton · Dec 9, 2021

I was checking a computer I was given for parts, it works quite well and has the TPM socket on the Gigabyte motherboard with an i7 CPU, just have to find the one module that fits out of about 6 different styles.

tomdsr · Dec 10, 2021

COMPUTIAC said:
Where can I get this version ?

He cant tell you cause he got it by naughty methods. To him, "enterprise" means better

NormanF · Jan 10, 2023

geneo said:
You are probably aware, but if you are trying to get TPM 2.0 module to meet Windows 11 requirements, your processor doesn't meet the requirements, soo it would be a moot move. Windows 11 requires at least an 8th generation Intel processor and yours is 4th,

That isn't true because old processors still communicate with their TPM modules. Microsoft has never explained why these cpus can't perform cryptographic and security-related tasks. The cpu cut off line is purely arbitrary and there's no good reason to exclude PCs that have TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot simply due to the age of the processor.

hsehestedt · Jan 10, 2023

NormanF said:
That isn't true because old processors still communicate with their TPM modules. Microsoft has never explained why these cpus can't perform cryptographic and security-related tasks. The cpu cut off line is purely arbitrary and there's no good reason to exclude PCs that have TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot simply due to the age of the processor.

I love arbitrary statements like this.

Microsoft had very good reason to set these cutoffs. CPUs prior to those officially supported had 52% more kernel crashes than supported CPUs according to Microsoft test data and their statements on this topic. So Microsoft is aiming to provide the best user experience possible.

That said, I fully admit that I run Win 11 on EVERYTHING, including machines over a decade old, but I am assuming the responsibility for my choice if I have any problems.

EDIT: Adding reference to backup my statement...

Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app

Today’s blog post provides two updates. First, an update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements based, in part, on feedback from the Windows Insider community. Second, information on the updated PC Health Check app that is now available to Windo

blogs.windows.com

Dru2 · Jan 10, 2023

NormanF said:
That isn't true because old processors still communicate with their TPM modules. Microsoft has never explained why these cpus can't perform cryptographic and security-related tasks. The cpu cut off line is purely arbitrary and there's no good reason to exclude PCs that have TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot simply due to the age of the processor.

Please be aware the reason some CPUs are not compatible is more about instruction sets and security features. In keeping it simple, newer CPUs have instruction sets/security/tech features older CPUs don't. That's why Microsoft has a compatibility cutoff.

My i9-9900K which is compatible because it has features my non-supported i7-7700K doesn't. That's the difference.